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Hello, my lovelies. I’m that self-same Contender bod who is responsible for all the LEXX DVDs and all that – I thought I’d pop my head around the door and say ‘hi’ and ask whether there’s any questions/confirmations about the DVDs you wanted to ask. Step right up, don’t be shy!
Lee
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Originally posted by Raven:
[b]the extras on the DVDs suck (you didn’t want people to be shy).[/b]
Well, don’t mince your words.
What do you want on there?I want closed captions or English subtitles. What a disappointment. It’s very hard to read 790’s lips! Also, Much More Michael McManus. The interview on the first DVD was too short.
I tell you what would be nice;
Commentary by producers, actors etc.
Documentary (making of episode)
Deleted Scenes (if any)
photo gallery (bigger than previous ones)
Trailers
Music (i woudn’t really want it but it’s a cool bonus)
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quoth the Raven ‘nevermore’I live in Canada, have the Acorn Media DVDs, and one thing that bugs me with those DVDs is the lack of subtitles. And the light yellow (highlighted) text on the menu screen which replaces the unselected white text.
Although the extras are good. On each of the Season 2 discs there’s interviews with the cast & crew, and information on their past work.
There’s also a segment of “Rated Lexx” (the US Sci-Fi Channel’s introduction special) on each of the season 2 discs released thus far.
Randalt
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Originally posted by aurora:
[b]I want closed captions or English subtitles. What a disappointment. It’s very hard to read 790’s lips! Also, Much More Michael McManus. The interview on the first DVD was too short. [/b]
You’re replying to a post made by someone at Contender, who make the UK DVDs. Your profile says that you’re in the US, so don’t go blaming Contender for stuff that we did. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
(I’m with Acorn, btw. We’re doing the DVDs in the States. Lee, nice to meet you!)
As for the closed captions, I agree with you. The masters we received, however, didn’t have an encoded closed captioning option, and it’s EXTREMELY cost-prohibitive to create them on your own, especially if you’re a smaller company dealing with a “cult” title (though we have been looking into the costs…this is a point of contention that I’ve brought up with the company in the past, and I’ll bring it up again).
And as for Michael’s interview being too short, I *wish* it were longer. Salter filmed the interviews for us while people were in between things on the LEXX set, and the interviews are exactly what they gave us, already edited, with the clips in there.
–Aleck
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Originally posted by Randalt:
[b]I live in Canada, have the Acorn Media DVDs, and one thing that bugs me with those DVDs is the lack of subtitles. And the light yellow (highlighted) text on the menu screen which replaces the unselected white text.Although the extras are good. On each of the Season 2 discs there’s interviews with the cast & crew, and information on their past work.
There’s also a segment of “Rated Lexx” (the US Sci-Fi Channel’s introduction special) on each of the season 2 discs released thus far.
Randalt[/b]
Heya, Randalt.
The yellow highlight is a problem. On some sets, it looks okay (it looks fine on my home set), yet on some sets, it’s almost invisible (like half the monitors here at work). They’re in the process of doing the programming on the next-to-last disc right now, so I don’t think it’s going to change before/if we leap into Season 3 (which I’ve still got my fingers crossed about). We’ve talked to Salter (who are doing the authoring) about boosting the color a bit, but it’s always hard to tell how it’s going to come out. My advice in the meantime is to boost your color levels slightly on the TV, which will make the highlighting easier to see (but not too much, or you’ll have color bleeding all over the place). See my above post about the frustrating closed captioning issue.
Glad you like the extras, though. The “Rated LEXX” segments will be on all 5 releases. Upcoming extras will include storyboards, production sketches, and more interviews, etc.
–Aleck
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Originally posted by Aleck:
[b]Glad you like the extras, though. The “Rated LEXX” segments will be on all 5 releases. Upcoming extras will include storyboards, production sketches, and more interviews, etc.
–Aleck[/b]
Thanks for the information! We love production trivia, and I’m sure we all appreciate that the DVDs are even being made at all, on both sides of the ocean.
I figured the issues I mentioned were TV set & player dependent. When I bought the first DVD “I Worship His Shadow,” my cheapo Apex 500-A player insists on playing it in French when I select English. A little title selection jiggery-pokery with the remote gets it right, and my PC DVD player has no problem with it.
Randalt
Ok a few complaints about the DVD’s. The picture was a bit grainy, DVD’s were hard to find in stores and the transition segments
were a bit long between selections.-SM
the extras on the DVDs suck (you didn’t want people to be shy).
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quoth the Raven ‘nevermore’
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Originally posted by Slopmaster:
[b]Ok a few complaints about the DVD’s. The picture was a bit grainy, DVD’s were hard to find in stores and the transition segments
were a bit long between selections.-SM[/b]
Lee, sorry that this is taking over your thread, but it’s another US question for me to field.
As for them being hard to find in stores, that’s the fault of the retailers, not the people who make the DVDs. Hopefully once Season 4 starts, more stores will pick them up as interest grows (with the show on a break, it’s not as in-demand as it would be if it were running every week at a decent hour).
About the picture…This is something that I noticed, and everyone who viewed it at the offices made note of it, but the graininess is something inherent in the masters we got from Salter. For me, on my home system, it was particularly grainy in scenes on the LEXX or in low-light situations (for instance, the opening to “Terminal” looks pretty grainy, as does most of “Lyekka”), but in other shots, it’s not quite as bad (the interiors of the medical satellite, the Potatoho’ans fantasy sequences, Stan’s dream of Lyekka). Not to try and pass the buck, but I’ve seen 2 different sets of master dubs for a number of these episodes, and they’re *all* like that. I don’t know if it was an intentional thing on the part of Salter, or if it was due to budget limitations on the first few episodes (it clears up a *lot* in the later eps of Season 2), or if it was due to the fact that they had constantly changing directors on these episodes, and didn’t have a “look” nailed down as of yet. But I can affirm that it is *not* something to do with the DVD mastering. It’s in the episodes themselves, and we can’t clean it up.
As for the transitions between segments, you are absolutely correct. *EVERY* single test disc we get back from Salter Digital, we ask if they can narrow that gap, and we get the same problems every time. I can’t *tell* you how many times we’ve gone to them and tried to get them to tighten that up. They say that it’s barely noticable on their machines, but they’re not watching it on commercial DVD players, they’re using professional equipment. The top-of-the-line stuff may make that a quicker transition, but my home set-up sure doesn’t. It’s a pain, and I will be sure to pass this along, so that we can at least say, “Hey, we’re getting customer complaints about the pause here. Can you *please* try and do something about it???”
–Aleck
My only complaint, Aleck, is the transition segment itself. When I click on the episode I don’t want to see Stan hitting the access panel of the LEXX again and every time I want to go another feature or episode. I just want to jump right to the episode. That’s really annoying. Pass it on to the beans if you can please.
I’m also pro subtitles. I’m not deaf and I don’t know anyone who is, but I know they would have a very hard time watching these eps. To me it limits your potential audience, not only that, but especially here in the states, what about Americans who only understand spanish? What about Spanish subtitles? Always cheaper than dubbing. maybe you could include that in your arguement neXt time.
A company here in Texas, ADV Films, has English, Japanese, and Spanish audio but usually only english subtitles on most of their DVDs.
The graininess: To me it looX like they added a “film grain” using an editing program. Perhaps those scenes were shot on lesser quality stock or video and they did that to get a film look as best they could. It’s a question I’d like to ask them if I ever get the chance.
[This message has been edited by X (edited July 07, 2001).]
Hey Lee….I must say I did like the Lexx purity test- it was very amusing. On season 2 DVDs all I can say is BETTER SCENE ACCESS! Thats the one thing the annoyed me most about the first four discs. But on the plus side, they were excellant value for money!
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“I throw a little fit, I slit my teenage wrist. The most I can learn is in records that you burn”“drove the children from their chores. Handcrafted housewifes into whores. Fear of the beast is calling it near, creating what we’re hating; its only fear that is here….”
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Originally posted by X:
[b]My only complaint, Aleck, is the transition segment itself. When I click on the episode I don’t want to see Stan hitting the access panel of the LEXX again and every time I want to go another feature or episode. I just want to jump right to the episode. That’s really annoying. Pass it on to the beans if you can please.[/b]
I get what you’re saying. Actually, the main menus have been changing for every release we’re doing. The first two were the same because we did both of them at the same time, but we’ve changed them for the third DVD (which will be out at the end of the month) and the fourth one. It did run too long, and the new menus are more streamlined.
quote[quote][b]I’m also pro subtitles. I’m not deaf and I don’t know anyone who is, but I know they would have a very hard time watching these eps. To me it limits your potential audience, not only that, but especially here in the states, what about Americans who only understand spanish? What about Spanish subtitles? Always cheaper than dubbing. maybe you could include that in your arguement neXt time.[/b][/quote]
Actually, the dubbing on the DVDs was encoded into the masters, as LEXX is made in Canada (I think the dubbing for other countries is done through the networks that carry the program). My uncle is pretty much completely deaf, and I would like to show him these DVDs that I’ve worked on, but I know that he won’t get any real enjoyment out of it. And that bugs me. The closed-captioning option is, as I’ve said, extremely cost-prohibitive if the captions are not part of the masters themselves. To go in and do it on your own is something we don’t have the capability of doing. Like I said, though, it is something that we have discussed with some of the people that author our discs, to get an idea of what the exact costs are. Even to provide that as an option when it’s encoded into the masters costs money. Which is unfortunate, since I think all programs should carry closed-captioning. As for alternate-language subtitles, I’m all for them, but the same problems with English subs come into play, but even moreso (writing a Spanish adaptation of the script, having it approved by Salter and the writers, etc.) if the subs are not provided by the production company.
quote[quote][b]The graininess: To me it looX like they added a “film grain” using an editing program. Perhaps those scenes were shot on lesser quality stock or video and they did that to get a film look as best they could. It’s a question I’d like to ask them if I ever get the chance.[/b][/quote]
Ditto. That was the impression I got as well. I know that Season 3 was shot on Hi-Def Video and run through a film grain filter, and I wondered if the early episodes were experimenting with similar techniques. I have no doubts that it’s intentional, since the grain factor changes specifically when the setting changes.
–Aleck
Interesting, Aleck. As an independent “film” maker myself, I wondered if that’s what they did. I’m very interested in the new HD cameras. I attended a HD presentation of the new Panavision HD cams last week. They can shoot 24 fps progressive or 30 fps interlaced or even 23.973 fps progressive or whatever the correct number is for direct video transfer. Film is 24 fps progressive for those that don’t know and that’s why it looX better than video which is usually shot interlaced at 30 fps.
But it looX really good. Film quality. These were like the ones they used on Episode 2 and the guy that talked to us worked on it. Maybe if there is a season 5 the beans can get a hold of some of those cameras.
I hope to be able to call myself a “High Definition-maker” soon [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Mercury:
[b]Hey Lee….I must say I did like the Lexx purity test- it was very amusing. [/b]
Heheheh – my work here is done. My colleagues and myself had a blast writing that.
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On season 2 DVDs all I can say is BETTER SCENE ACCESS! Thats the one thing the annoyed me most about the first four discs. But on the plus side, they were excellant value for money!
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Right-o. We normally put four in for a 50 minutes drama. That sound about right?
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Originally posted by Aleck:
[b] You’re replying to a post made by someone at Contender, who make the UK DVDs. Your profile says that you’re in the US, so don’t go blaming Contender for stuff that we did. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img](I’m with Acorn, btw. We’re doing the DVDs in the States. Lee, nice to meet you!)–Aleck[/b]
‘allo, matey! I’ll mail you regarding some LEXX-matters proper when our mail server is up; at the moment, I have to fill in by surfing bulletin boards. Oh woe is me!
Have a good one, oh and BTW – VERY impressed with the Acorn DVDs.
Lee.
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Originally posted by Lee Binding:
[b] ‘allo, matey! I’ll mail you regarding some LEXX-matters proper when our mail server is up; at the moment, I have to fill in by surfing bulletin boards. Oh woe is me!Have a good one, oh and BTW – VERY impressed with the Acorn DVDs.
Lee.
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Well, thanky! I’ve been curious about the Contender DVDs, but we need to invest in a multi-region player, or at least a PAL DVD system. Your cover art looks great, though.
Email me when you get your server back up. my home address is in my profile, but you can email me at abennett@acornmedia.com at work as well.
–Aleck
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Originally posted by Aleck:
You’re replying to a post made by someone at Contender, who make the UK DVDs. Your profile says that you’re in the US, so don’t go blaming Contender for stuff that we did.
(I’m with Acorn, btw. We’re doing the DVDs in the States.
——————————————————————————–Hi Aleck, It’s very encouraging that you are interested in the fans’ POV. I’m hard-of-hearing and I originally posted the request for captions/subtitles in the U.S. I’m glad to hear that Acorn is at least looking into the possibility. Believe me, I’m accustomed to the disappointment, but NEVER resigned to it. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] As far as the LEXX DVD’s are concerned – it simply means I’ll have to watch them over and over again. Somehow this doesn’t seem burdensome to me. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
Captioned or not – I am eagerly awaiting the next 2 releases, and already desperately hoping to be able to buy Seasons 3 and 4.
— Aurora
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Originally posted by aurora:
[b]Hi Aleck, It’s very encouraging that you are interested in the fans’ POV. I’m hard-of-hearing and I originally posted the request for captions/subtitles in the U.S. I’m glad to hear that Acorn is at least looking into the possibility. Believe me, I’m accustomed to the disappointment, but NEVER resigned to it. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img] As far as the LEXX DVD’s are concerned – it simply means I’ll have to watch them over and over again. Somehow this doesn’t seem burdensome to me. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img][/b]
Thanks for the encouragement. Like I said, this is something that affects members of my family, and though we are limited by what we’re provided, it’s important to me that we provide subtitles or captions when possible. I’ll continue to work to get this done. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
–Aleck
I want to say something different about the DVD’s. Some good things about them so lets start with the fact we got them at all. I like the little rated Lexx segments. I like the trivia. The main menu graphic, its pretty cool haveing all the selections on the Lexx view screen. I like haveing four episodes to a disk because it makes them easier to watch not to mention cheaper to buy. I also love the interviews with Paul and Michael. Oh yeah getting back the rated Lexx segment with 790 explaining how he/she got the way she used to be. So those are the things I love about the DVD’s.
-SM
Ok, this happened a few times now, and i’m a little bit ****ed off with it, The main question was ‘what would you like to see on the U.K DVDs ‘U.K’ being the key word, I write in some suggestions, after that people start writing crap about the American DVDs which should be on a DIFFERENT topic, and as i predicted, because of all that stuff people wrote, my suggestions have been forgoten about and have fallen on deaf ears.
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quoth the Raven ‘nevermore’Hey no offense, but my reply to the question was intended to serve as an example of what was available on the Acorn Media releases so a comparison could be made to the Contender releases. Maybe Contender will do the same extras, maybe not. I might buy the Contender discs eventually if there’s something there I can’t get here.
Randalt
Geeez Raven some one certainly got up on the wrong side of the Brittish isles this morning. Yes true it did start out about the UK dvd’s but so what if some others want to talk about the American DVD’s as long as we have an Acorn representitive here.
-SM
I agree with Raven.
It’s all very well you guys talking about what you did and didn’t like on the US series 2 discs. We’ll be lucky to get them by the end of the year.
So, the things I’d like to see:– Deleted scenes
– Cock-ups, Lisa Riley style (UK joke only)
– More about how they do the CGI
– Commentary tracks
– Maybe clips of other stuff the actors have done (that would be different)Probably the best DVD I’ve used is the Matrix because there is so much stuff and some of it is quite hidden. You find yourself stumbling across extra bits each time you play with it.
I liked the purity test but was slightly disappointed by the “hidden feature” that was revealed. It was just a very short montage of clips I’d just finished watching.
Anyway, come on Contender I can’t hold out much longer.
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Originally posted by Raven:
[b]Ok, this happened a few times now, and i’m a little bit ****ed off with it, The main question was ‘what would you like to see on the U.K DVDs ‘U.K’ being the key word, because of all that stuff people wrote, my suggestions have been forgoten about and have fallen on deaf ears.[/b]
hey raven, i noticed your suggestions kind of became a dead end, but then later on lee alluded to troubles with their server, maybe he could come back to it? or maybe you could start a new topic along the lines of “hey lee, are you still interested?”…just a thought…the great thing about this board is that we have visitors from all over, so the threads go in even more directions than usual…i am peeved at the thought that since lexx s4 is starting here in the us on friday, you guys will not be able to participate in the discussions, so i won’t be hearing from anyone except americans! [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by tbohn:
[b]I agree with Raven.It’s all very well you guys talking about what you did and didn’t like on the US series 2 discs. We’ll be lucky to get them by the end of the year.
So, the things I’d like to see:– Deleted scenes
– Cock-ups, Lisa Riley style (UK joke only)
– More about how they do the CGI
– Commentary tracks
– Maybe clips of other stuff the actors have done (that would be different)Probably the best DVD I’ve used is the Matrix because there is so much stuff and some of it is quite hidden. You find yourself stumbling across extra bits each time you play with it.
I liked the purity test but was slightly disappointed by the “hidden feature” that was revealed. It was just a very short montage of clips I’d just finished watching.
Anyway, come on Contender I can’t hold out much longer.[/b]
So there were Easter Eggs in the Discs? Where
were they located, I tried a few pages and
found nothing? I did enjoy the purity test and the Rated Lexx small episodes, especially
background on 790..now more on Zev’s background, or perhaps Kai on his homeworld
before the destruction of his planet,(with
no singing…even though Brigadoom was an
astoundingly enjoyable episode) Good job
overall, though… [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by FX:
[b] i am peeved at the thought that since lexx s4 is starting here in the us on friday, you guys will not be able to participate in the discussions, so i won’t be hearing from anyone except americans! [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img][/b]
Hehe.. guess we’ll need to start a separate thread for that. Rave, you can still post. You can talk about how much you’d like to see it on TV there in the UK [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]
Sorry, couldn’t resist. Just messin w/ ya, Rave [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by mayaxiong:
[b] So there were Easter Eggs in the Discs? Where
were they located, I tried a few pages and
found nothing?[/b]
Okay, just to clear things up again…Judging from your profile, you’re from Arlington, TX, which means that you’re most likely watching the US DVDs. They’re talking about the UK DVDs put out by Contender. The US discs don’t have Easter Eggs.
Glad you liked the discs, though. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]–Aleck
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Originally posted by X:
[b] Hehe.. guess we’ll need to start a separate thread for that. Rave, you can still post. You can talk about how much you’d like to see it on TV there in the UK [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]Sorry, couldn’t resist. Just messin w/ ya, Rave [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img][/b]
the thread(s) will be in lexx episodes under the name of each episode, much as we did it when s3 was still showing here in the us…i will also go to chat room after each episode (so, eleven o’clock EST or thereabouts) for those who wish to chat realtime…seeya [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Yo, mayaxiong!!
Just givin a shout out to my peeps!! I live in a crappy little town 30 min away from Arlington!!!
AWESOME!! We got our own LEXXpisode.. “TEXX LEXX”!!!
YAHOO!! Maybe we’ll get to see Xev in a cowboy hat!! [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
Kai in spurs isn’t as crazy as it sounds. Michael did say he wanted to do a western some day either in the movies or TeleVision. So maybe we will see the tall dark assassin rideing a horse on the dusty trails of the lone star state. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
-SM
Whoops! I messed up the cliche. What I meant to say was “Yee haw!!” [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
Don’t forget LEXX 2.08 “White Trash” where Micheal McManus played one of the Xtras on Vermil and wore a cowboy hat.
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Originally posted by X:
[b]Yo, mayaxiong!!Just givin a shout out to my peeps!! I live in a crappy little town 30 min away from Arlington!!!
AWESOME!! We got our own LEXXpisode.. “TEXX LEXX”!!!
YAHOO!! Maybe we’ll get to see Xev in a cowboy hat!! [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img][/b]
oh brother [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] how about kai in spurs?
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Originally posted by X:
[b]Whoops! I messed up the cliche. What I meant to say was “Yee haw!!” [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]Don’t forget LEXX 2.08 “White Trash” where Micheal McManus played one of the Xtras on Vermil and wore a cowboy hat.[/b]
(theme music from the good, the bad, and the ugly….) kai does clint eastwood;little cigarette hanging off one side of his mouth, five o’clock shadow, squinting into the sun…okay, i’m gamey [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by FX:
[b]
(theme music from the good, the bad, and the ugly….) kai does clint eastwood;little cigarette hanging off one side of his mouth, five o’clock shadow, squinting into the sun…okay, i’m gamey [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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[i]The Dead, the Bad and the Ugly[/i].
Kai (aka the Dead Man with No Name) squints down at Stan (playing Eli Wallach’s role of Tuco) and tosses him a shovel:
“There’s only two kinds of people in this world, my friend. Those that have a brace, and those that don’t. Now dig.”(If you haven’t seen the *completely amazing* film [i]The Good, the Bad and the Ugly[/i], you won’t get the above joke. Sorry. You now have a project. Get thee to a video store, pronto.)
–Aleck
Hehe Aleck I get that one. I’m not a big fan of westerns but my dad is so I have seen the movie.
-SM
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Originally posted by Slopmaster:
[b]Hehe Aleck I get that one. I’m not a big fan of westerns but my dad is so I have seen the movie.-SM[/b]
speaking of kai does clint (which sounds like porno, but that’s another topic [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ) how about “play brunnen-g for me”…kai is terrorized by obsessive female fan?! or love slave?!…oh! and the dirty harry movies!… the possibilities are endless…”do you feel lucky today, Shadow?”…still working on a “beguiled” idea (yes aleck, a good bad movie! [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] )
question about the dvd’s in USA:
Will there be dvd’s for the movies? To reply, you will have to e-mail me since I will be on vacation without computers or lexx [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img] for the next few weeks my e-mail is Jvsut@aol.com
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Originally posted by FX:
[b] speaking of kai does clint (which sounds like porno, but that’s another topic.[/b]
“Dirty Harry” now that sounds like a porno. I guess you could also read something into “Space Cowboys” Hey about “Pale Rider” now that just sick. Oh god how about “Tightrope”!
“Sudden Impact”, “Honkytonk Man” which is well just ewwww. “Any which way you can” sounds preety pornographic too. Oh my god what about “Two mules for sister Sara” now that one might not be so bad. And well “Hang em high” just sounds painfull.Man Clint Eastwood probably should have thought about the titles of those movies before he agreed to star in them.
-SM
[This message has been edited by Slopmaster (edited July 27, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Slopmaster (edited July 27, 2001).]
Originally posted by Slopmaster:
Man Clint Eastwood probably should have thought about the titles of those movies before he agreed to star in them.-SM
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