DVD Diffs *spoiler alert* S3.2 "May"

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  • #37108
    SadGeezer
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    Okay, okay, wot up wit d’ dbds, mon? I have finally gotten around to watching some of the DVDs I’ve gotten. I have the Acorn version of the DVD with “May” on it. I [i]love[/i] that episode! Now, we head into spoiler territory; look away if you have not seen S3.2:









    In “May” when Kai is getting all touchy feely on May’s shoulder and sees that she is wounded, doesn’t she still have an arrow in her shoulder? And, doesn’t he remove it? Or, was that all a part of my fevered imagination? Waitaminute, I have the VHS! D’Oh! No arrow there either. Did I imagine this or did May ever get an arrow pulled from her shoulder by Kai?

    ********************BlackCloud***************

    #53366
    Anonymous
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    Maybe that’s in a different episode? Isn’t may in a couple of them?

    I am waiting with bated breath for the arrivial of my S3 DVDS!!!!

    From S2 I remember the Net / web as different from both of them when one was shown on TV as opposed to the DVD. Weird

    #53367
    Anonymous
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    Speaking of DVD’s (we were, weren’t we?). videoflicks.ca has the complete second series in a collectors pack for $115.33 Canadian. Thats a steal, particularly for you American folks.

    Camelyn
    Who laboriously bought each DVD release of series 2, and is mildly miffed.

    #53368
    Anonymous
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    Kai pulls an arrow out of himself in [i]May[/i]–when he’s in Prince’s city to pick up Xev and Stan. He fiddles around with arrows in a couple of other eps as well, but
    doesn’t do any more fiddling with May. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img]

    That scene with May always seemed really hot to me for some reason. God only knows what they’re talking about, but they’re so [i]intense[/i] (and both so pretty). [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] I think scifi cut some of it, it seems longer on the DVD but I haven’t checked.

    elmey

    [ 14-08-2002: Message edited by: elmey ]

    #53369
    Anonymous
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    quote:


    Originally posted by Camelyn:
    Camelyn
    Who laboriously bought each DVD release of series 2, and is mildly miffed.


    All I can say is that the box set idea wasn’t mine. I’ve not been a fan of it since it was proposed, especially seeing as how the sales people had the bright idea of putting it together *after* all the DVDs were released. It was done at the suggestion of a number of Acorn’s retail customers (Borders, etc.) who wanted a “gift pack” to be available as well as the individual discs.

    It was initially supposed to contain a 38-page booklet/episode guide, but Salter thought that this constituted merchandise rather than promotional material (never mind that it wouldn’t have been made available separately, that it was only 38 pages, that it devoted barely any more information on the episodes than what was featured on the backs of the video boxes…my belief is that after they failed to follow through on anything that would have made Valdron’s book happen, the notion of *any* printed material sent them into spasms of fear that someone was muscling in on any potential merchandising license), and refused to allow it to see print. Never mind, of course, that the very nature of the booklet was to encourage people to buy the other DVD releases as they came out, thereby *making* Salter money. Of course, I worked on the thing furiously under ridiculously tight deadlines, having to turn in copy on S4 episodes to the designers as they were broadcast (and winging it as far as “Dutch Treat” goes, since I missed that episode completely) since Salter couldn’t send me advance screeners of any S4 episodes (they didn’t seem to raise the question of the merchandising aspect of my writing this thing when I asked for the screeners).

    Sorry, got into rant mode.

    Anyway, yeah, there’s a S2 box set out. Will there be a S3 box? Heck, I haven’t heard one way or the other, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

    –Aleck

    #53370
    theFrey
    Participant

    What in the heck is their problem?!? They are crazy. Which the way they reguard merchandising, I am only thankful that the DVD deal got through before they had this affliction took hold or we would still all be watching bad copies bought on ebay! Agggggh!

    #53371
    Anonymous
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    quote[quote] we would still all be watching bad copies bought on ebay [/quote]

    Maybes thats what you would do, but I wouldnt stand to pay money for crappy VHS copies. I would end up downloading the VCDs and take pictures of myself watching the VCDs to Salter with though bubbles edited in saying “wheres the DVDs?”.

    I did the same thing to BBC Video when I asked for The Young Ones DVDs, and hey its about to be released.

    #53372
    Anonymous
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    quote:


    Originally posted by thefrey:
    What in the heck is their problem?!? They are crazy.


    Oh yeah, we were all pretty peeved ’round these parts. I forgot to mention that not only was it just 38 pages long, it was 38 *tiny* pages long. Not your standard trade paperback size. It was essentially a slightly thicker DVD insert. Would have fit easily into the slipcase. Small. Meaning that there wasn’t a lot of room for words. One argument was that doing an episode guide for all 4 seasons was too “definitive,” and that if we were going to do a guide for this box set, that we should just limit ourselves to S2 episodes. Which, of course, made all the sense in the world, considering that we’d be then providing a guide to episodes on DVDs that the customer would have already had — you could just read the descriptions on the backs of the DVD cases and get about as much information as I was allowed to convey, so what good would it have done? Oh, and let me not forget that it really would have been only 36 actual pages of episode guide stuff, as 2 pages were devoted to an introduction by Paul Donovan. Plus, there were the pictures (tiny pictures, but still) and the 4 pages of season overviews, so we’re really looking at roughly 30 pages of episode synopses. 30 pages to discuss 61 episodes (65 if you count the movies as 2 eps worth). And they were concerned that it would be construed as merchandise that had worth on its own. I mean, really, I’m surprised that the trading cards have happened in as quick and efficient manner as they have (note: “quick and efficient” is, of course, a relative term).

    –Aleck

    [ 14-08-2002: Message edited by: Aleck ]

    #53373
    Anonymous
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    Man when is the maketing bomb going to go off in their tiny little head? Buncha morons
    at Salter. Guess they dont like making money.

    #53374
    theFrey
    Participant

    quote:


    Originally posted by Evil_Lister:
    Maybes thats what you would do, but I wouldnt stand to pay money for crappy VHS copies. I would end up downloading the VCDs and take pictures of myself watching the VCDs to Salter with though bubbles edited in saying “wheres the DVDs?”.

    I did the same thing to BBC Video when I asked for The Young Ones DVDs, and hey its about to be released.


    Well I did do something close. I got my VHS tapes and then emailed every address I could come up with …. and quite a few I winged but that went through, and told them that it was a great show, but I would have much rather given them the money. I lamented the fact that the bootlegs were not quite as clear as a professional tape… but since they were readily available, I would just have to make do.

    My timing must have been just right. Three weeks later they announced the up comming release of S2. I could have hit just right as I said… or they could have decided to release the DVD availability info early to take the bottom out of the boot leg market….

    What am I saying… that couldn’t be it…. that would take marketing savy. Forget I mentioned it. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    #53375
    Anonymous
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    quote:


    Originally posted by thefrey:
    My timing must have been just right. Three weeks later they announced the up comming release of S2. I could have hit just right as I said… or they could have decided to release the DVD availability info early to take the bottom out of the boot leg market….

    What am I saying… that couldn’t be it…. that would take marketing savy. Forget I mentioned it. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]


    Actually, you hit it just right. We’d been in negotiations with them for a pretty good while before Salter announced the DVD releases. I just wasn’t allowed to say anything about it until afterwards.

    –Aleck

    #53376
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Warning: potentially ignorant question for Aleck.
    Salter Street is now owned by Alliance Atlantis. Do they not have any say in the marketing of Lexx? Does Salter still have all the rights to Lexx, or does Alliance just not give a horses patoot?

    Colour me curious
    Camelyn

    #53377
    Anonymous
    Guest

    quote:


    Originally posted by Camelyn:
    Warning: potentially ignorant question for Aleck.
    Salter Street is now owned by Alliance Atlantis. Do they not have any say in the marketing of Lexx? Does Salter still have all the rights to Lexx, or does Alliance just not give a horses patoot?

    Colour me curious
    Camelyn


    I’m not clear as to the question, but let me give it a shot. Salter, I believe, retains some autonomy under the ownership of Alliance Atlantis. While AA does own the programs under the Salter name, and they have a vested interest in the marketing of said programs, they aren’t micro-managing the day-to-day workings of Salter. The people we had trouble with weren’t from AA’s legal department, they were from Salter’s, and were in H’fax. I think that AA leaves a fair amount of trust in the decision-making of Salter when it comes to marketing the programs that they’ve established. We do have to run legal stuff with the DVDs by Alliance Atlantis, but most of the decision-making and approval goes through the folks in the Halifax offices. What happened, I believe, is that when the book deal with Valdron fell through, Salter panicked and wanted a seperate license for anything *resembling* a book. And if they decide that something falls under the “merchandise” heading rather than “promotional,” it’s their decision (though this distinction, I’ll add, was not made clear to us in any of the contracts signed, and the precise thing we’d prepared for the [i]LEXX[/i] sets was identical to any number of booklets we’d done for other programs, and we’d never had any suggestion that this was out of line), and if they say that what we have is a book rather than a promotional DVD insert, well, they can call it a book if they want. It’s their intellectual property we’re using here, and they have the rights to make whatever distinction they wish. Alliance, probably wisely, doesn’t enter into the picture unless it gets past the approval of Salter and then *they* decide not to approve it. It’s like the situation with Wilco’s last album, [i]Yankee Hotel Foxtrot[/i]. Reprise, their record label, decided that the album was too strange and uncommercial to release, and Wilco were booted from the label. They took the album to Bar/None records, who were happy as clams to put it out. Both labels are owned by AOL/Time/Warner. The parent company probably didn’t pay any attention to anything that went on, and trusted the decision-making of the respective label heads.

    –Aleck

    #53378
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Thanks Aleck, you answered my question above and beyond the call of duty [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Camelyn

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