New Michael McManus Fan board open to all
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10th November 2003 at 3:38 pm #39587mmloverParticipant
{[b]this post was deleted[/b]. It was rudely trying to get posters to visit another site and was left by someone how’s only contribution to this site was to encourage peeps to go elsewhere}
Mildly irritating MUCH!
10th November 2003 at 7:18 pm #69086JhevzParticipantHi mmlover,
I’d like to be the 1st 1 to welcome you to Sadgeezer; I do hope you stay awhile & post as much as you can. It’s great to see another MM fan here; you’ll make lots of friends & meet really nice people.
I’ve visited your MM Board & it’s great; as soon as my parents & I get back online, I’ll definitely sign up. Wow, you did a great job & keep up the great work. 🙂 8)
Again, I’d like to welcome you to Sadgeezer & hope you stay awhile & post as much as you can.MM Fan to MM Fan,
Jhevz 😉10th November 2003 at 10:39 pm #69093mmloverParticipantI am have been a fan of lexx for a long time and my post was not rude. I have highly recommended sadgeezer’s board to other lexx fans over the years and this board has been advertised by fans at other lexx sites. Just because I am new to this board means I am rude to say I love lexx and am letting other lexx fans know about other boards? I see boards avertised here before for lexx usa or lexxathon and things going on there.
I guess not everyone is welcome then. 🙁
11th November 2003 at 2:26 am #69097AnonymousGuest[quote=”mmlover”]I am have been a fan of lexx for a long time and my post was not rude. I have highly recommended sadgeezer’s board to other lexx fans over the years and this board has been advertised by fans at other lexx sites. Just because I am new to this board means I am rude to say I love lexx and am letting other lexx fans know about other boards? I see boards avertised here before for lexx usa or lexxathon and things going on there.
I guess not everyone is welcome then. :([/quote]
Yeah right!
[b]You know exactly why your post was rude![/b]
Fatguy is rude, he’s just opened his own forums and has been encouraging members of this site to visit for a few days now. He even does this using the moral backdoor by suggesting that his forum is [i]giving something back to the SadBOARD community[/i]. But he gets away with it because he’s a regular contributor to discussions. he has been for a while and he’s helped make the board what it is today [i](good or bad 😉 [/i])
It’s nice to have members post links to cool sites on this board and I wholly support it. [i][b]But the only reason that you came to this BBS was to post a link promoting your own site[/b][/i]. Maybe I should consider setting up a forum for – “Hey, visit my site!”
Your site is prolly very good and you probably want to promote it with the best of intentions, but leaving posts on someone elses site with the sole purpose of promoting your own is rude.
Maybe it just caught me on a bad day, but rudeness like that irritates me.
11th November 2003 at 5:54 pm #69106zevaliciousParticipantWell I suppose it all depends on who’s posting, I guess.
Others that are mods here also go to all the other sites and gleefully post their sites over and over and over again, even for the purposes of soliciting MONEY from loyal Lexx fans.
So since that’s the case, perhaps you can have a forum for those that want to advertise their sites, and form another rule that NO ONE is allowed to post ads for a site that’s not this one.
Perhaps the person advertising the site does post here on a regular basis, but has a different nick for that board for a reason.
If you don’t allow one person to do that, you shouldn’t allow anyone to do it. Just MHO.
I’m going back to lurking now, thank you.
(Now you know why I don’t post here more often)11th November 2003 at 8:24 pm #69108FatguyParticipant[quote=”mmlover”]I am have been a fan of lexx for a long time and my post was not rude. I have highly recommended sadgeezer’s board to other lexx fans over the years and this board has been advertised by fans at other lexx sites. Just because I am new to this board means I am rude to say I love lexx and am letting other lexx fans know about other boards? I see boards avertised here before for lexx usa or lexxathon and things going on there.
I guess not everyone is welcome then. :([/quote]
Actually I sympathize with your situation as that is my situation. Starting a new website is hard and you have to initially go out there and promote it as best you can. There are many people here that have successful websites that incurred all the same problems trying to consolidate a user base. I may just offer one small suggestion; with the exception of one website (that has a young fan base, and I discussed my reasons for not including a link to the Administration), I have a policy of including a link to any site where I have promoted my website. Sadgeezer.com has had a link at my site since I started five weeks ago and will always have one until the site gets too controversial (and he asks me to take it down).
I visited your board at 3:15PM today and could not find any links to any other sites. I know…..there is very little traffic yet…..but the gesture could still be made even if only symbolic at this time. Just a thought…..
Maurice
11th November 2003 at 8:36 pm #69109AnonymousGuest[quote=”zevalicious”]Well I suppose it all depends on who’s posting, I guess. [/quote]
No it doesn’t – I explained why!
[quote=”zevalicious”]Others that are mods here also go to all the other sites and gleefully post their sites over and over and over again, even for the purposes of soliciting MONEY from loyal Lexx fans.[/quote]
What happens on other sites isn’t something I have control over.
[quote=”zevalicious”]So since that’s the case, perhaps you can have a forum for those that want to advertise their sites, and form another rule that NO ONE is allowed to post ads for a site that’s not this one. [/quote]
Yep, I think that’s a good idea. I’ll check it out with the mods and see what they think.
[quote=”zevalicious”]Perhaps the person advertising the site does post here on a regular basis, but has a different nick for that board for a reason. [/quote]
I’m not quite sure why they would, but I’m equally sure that I can’t think of a good reason for them to do so.
[quote=”zevalicious”]If you don’t allow one person to do that, you shouldn’t allow anyone to do it. Just MHO.[/quote]
Welp, thanks for your opinion. It’s been noted. But for the reasons I stated above, all rude posts will be handled rudely (by me at least).
It’s not just my thoughts on the matter, posts like the one by mmlover been happening around the net for years. In newgroups such practice is dealt with very harshly.
[quote=”zevalicious”]I’m going back to lurking now, thank you. [/quote]
Oki – thanks for the post, lurkers are welcome, and opinions are appreciated.
[quote=”zevalicious”](Now you know why I don’t post here more often)[/quote]
Erm, no I don’t? Is it because you are someone who only wants to contribute to this community by posting a link to your site?
11th November 2003 at 8:47 pm #69110AnonymousGuestGood points Maurice. One of the best ways that I promote my site on other boards however, is with the signiature.
I never directly promote my site unless it’s to do with that topic, but my sig always has the name of the site and a link. (If I can get away with it, I also have a graphic image – nothing too large though).
11th November 2003 at 9:37 pm #69113AnonymousInactive[quote=”mmlover”]I am have been a fan of lexx for a long time and my post was not rude. I have highly recommended sadgeezer’s board to other lexx fans over the years and this board has been advertised by fans at other lexx sites. Just because I am new to this board means I am rude to say I love lexx and am letting other lexx fans know about other boards? I see boards avertised here before for lexx usa or lexxathon and things going on there.
I guess not everyone is welcome then. :([/quote]
If you have been recommending this board for years, and you like forums as evidenced by you having your own forum, then why is this the first time you posted? Why was it the first time you posted at lexx.com? Surely there were plenty of opportunities here and at lexx.com to drool over MM. Personally I dribble for Zev, but that’s by-the-by. 🙂
In fact, it seems very strange that you could be “new to this board” and yet have been promoting this site. Were you recommending something for years that you weren’t familiar with? Or do you mean that you’re a new “member”, but have lurked for a long time?
The problem is that this was your first post, which makes it clear that your express intent in coming here was ONLY to promote your site. IF you had shown any real dedication/enthusiam to/for this site before advertising your own site then we would have been much more forgiving.
To make matters worse, you are advertising a LEXX related forum in a LEXX forum; can be seen as disrespectful, and it’s not like you’ve advertised this forum at your forum. Why would you? You’d just lose members.
There’s a huge SadLinks section here, did you really need to promote it in the forum? You might have always just linked to it in your sig and posted about LEXX here. Would still be kinda rude, as it would still look like you came here to promote your forum, but I’m sure you would’ve gotten away with it unscathed (as long as it’s not pornographic material or illegal activities you’re promoting).
As for Sad mods promoting their sites, or sadgeezers, at other sites. Well, you may be particualrly thinking of lexx.com, and Sad’s site and lexx.com have a symbiotic relationship.
This is considered by many to be the official unofficial lexx board. I’ve seen Sad’s site mentioned in the LEXX credits alongside lexx.com, especially since this site most probably has the best LEXX Guide there is. This site is Beans approved; yes there’s a real relationship there.
On the other hand: Your forum is pretty darned good, and so can understand that you’d want to share it with other Lexxians (especially the Kai droolers). Now who’s gonna start a Feppo and Smoor drooling forum?
Anyway, let’s put this behind us. Welcome to the board, I do hope you stick around and post. 😀 I’m sure you’ll find lots to entertain and interest you here… and believe me, droolers are welcome (the board is covered in triple-ply celophane to make it spittle friendly ;)).
12th November 2003 at 4:01 am #69121theFreyParticipant[quote=”zevalicious”] Others that are mods here also go to all the other sites and gleefully post their sites over and over and over again, even for the purposes of soliciting MONEY from loyal Lexx fans.[/quote]
Oooo, oooo let me guess, that would be…. ME! 😀 Yep, I do.
As someone told me a long time ago, before I even started working for Lexx Fandom, “Frey you are everywhere.” Muhahahah. But seriously, I would imagine that the reason I do not collect much grief from the admin and mods of the various boards it that they know I am working for the ‘Loyal Lexx’ fans. Also a lot of time I either tie back to the various sites I am promoting on, or have assisted the ‘Out of Country’ Lexx faithful of those sites. And lastly, I suppose the fact that I have a ‘static’ site which sometimes brings up a discussion topic rather than a site which might drain off posters from the main sites may also has something to do with it.
[quote=”zevalicious”] Perhaps the person advertising the site does post here on a regular basis, but has a different nick for that board for a reason.[/quote]
Gosh I hope not, that would be pretty crappy. I am not fond of people having different nick on different boards. I am old and feeble and I find that very confusing. And I definitely think that a person should not have different nicks an individual board.
It might make a good sheltered posting home for the die hard droolers who bristle if a 790, Xev, Stan or Prince fan dare to post that the Kai or Twack are not perfection personified. Ahyhoo, seemed like an nice niche site that may possibly give some of the Kai yahoo groups a run for their money. : ) Especially, since you can never discuss the delicious dead one enough. 😀
12th November 2003 at 5:26 pm #69135zevaliciousParticipant[quote=”thefrey”][quote=”zevalicious”] Others that are mods here also go to all the other sites and gleefully post their sites over and over and over again, even for the purposes of soliciting MONEY from loyal Lexx fans.[/quote]
Oooo, oooo let me guess, that would be…. ME! 😀 Yep, I do.
Not necessarily, Lexxathon.com advertises at every site the auctions they’ve been running as well. even though they’re not currently mods at Lexx.co. I’ts all a matter of interpretation.
Even at sites that have no ‘symbiotic relationship’.[quote=”zevalicious”] Perhaps the person advertising the site does post here on a regular basis, but has a different nick for that board for a reason.[/quote]
Gosh I hope not, that would be pretty crappy. I am not fond of people having different nick on different boards. I am old and feeble and I find that very confusing. And I definitely think that a person should not have different nicks an individual board.
You should take a look at the archives of the Sci-fi and KEB boards sometimes, they’re riddled with posts from people alternate nicks, some of them you readily know. ;), not to mentionl this board as well.
Perhaps the folks posting here are doing it for reasons of fairness, not wanting opinions to be formed before the site was seen.
But if you’re not interested, then I guess it’s not worth discussing 🙂12th November 2003 at 7:02 pm #69139JhevzParticipant[quote=”zevalicious”] Perhaps the person advertising the site does post here on a regular basis, but has a different nick for that board for a reason.[/quote]
Gosh I hope not, that would be pretty crappy. I am not fond of people having different nick on different boards. I am old and feeble and I find that very confusing. And I definitely think that a person should not have different nicks an individual board.
You should take a look at the archives of the Sci-fi and KEB boards sometimes, they’re riddled with posts from people alternate nicks, some of them you readily know. ;), not to mentionl this board as well.
Perhaps the folks posting here are doing it for reasons of fairness, not wanting opinions to be formed before the site was seen.
But if you’re not interested, then I guess it’s not worth discussing :)[/quote]zevalicious,
That makes a lot of since; the reason why I use my nick here, theFrey’s & lexx.com, is Jhevz is more outspoken than I really am; also, this nick gives me inspiration to post more. I also use Keyeo on lexx.com because I work at a store & can get irritated sometimes & have others with not-so-nice moods on occasion; also, there’s been a person who’s recently thrown up in the store as well as someone crapping in our store. I also use that nick on HDS’s board; on the Sci-Fi board, I use Stephalee & use my own name at Brian’s board.
Since you’ve made a good point, I thought I would clear some of the confusion on why I use different nicks on these boards.Lexxian to Lexxian,
Jhevz 😉12th November 2003 at 7:44 pm #69142lizardParticipantHello,
Well, one thing about the new McManus-manic board is that I don’t think that it is necessarily in direct competition to Sadgeezers (there is no emoticon for Kow Towing, if there was I would use it here, because nobody beats sadgeezer for good scifi discussion). Because one does feel on a scifi or Lexx related board that lengthy posts analysing the end of Speaking parts, for example, are a bit off topic. They might even be annoying to other regulars who are not concerned with such things.On the other hand, I could just be a BBoard slut who likes to cruise several boards at once.
12th November 2003 at 9:30 pm #69145AnonymousGuestI wasn’t aware [i]Speaking Parts[/i] had an end. It’s a common affliction to Egoyan films (which is a shame, since I generally enjoy all the bits up until the end).
12th November 2003 at 9:47 pm #69146AnonymousGuest[quote=”lizard”]Hello,
…. Well, one thing about the new McManus-manic board is that I don’t think that it is necessarily in direct competition to Sadgeezers ….[/quote]I don’t think so either. I don’t think any board is in competition with this one because of the nature of the site – and even if there were BBS’s that were like this, that might be a good thing.
It’s not the competition, it’s more to do with the type of message that was posted and the feeling that the poster has little or no respect for the readers of the BBS host. I liken it to someone comming into the pub and interrupting our conversation with a ‘Hey guys, theres another conversation in my pub accross the road’.
12th November 2003 at 10:55 pm #69148AnonymousGuestWhat irks me is we have a simple tool!
<———Submit Links!
If you’re *new* to the site and are just interested in getting some hits on your site, feel free to use it! No one’s going to give you crap about that.
But if you want to use the boards to advertise, well you better dang well be contributing something you spent a lot of hard work on and is apropos to the subject matter we discuss here on Sadgeezer.com
An example:
If you have a N.F.L site and you love Football great, so do I! But do you really think Sadgeezer.com is the right place to advertise it if no one around here even knows who you are?
Put it in your Bio, or your sig. If people are interested they will visit. Hell, my Sysop at work had to remove permissions for our website because it was getting too many hits from here. And I don’t have a clue why anyone was interested in that, and it was in my Bio.
And if you’re around here long enough, feel free to mention your site if you think people might be interested in knowing more about you and your interests(within reason folks). Jhevz recently put up a fantastic site which has a lot of personal information, yet still has a great little section on Sci-Fi conventions (Sorry Jhevz for singling you out!) So not only was I treated to some great pictures of old conventions but I got to learn a little more about one of our contributors.
Posting it, or begging people to visit, or claiming your site is something that it isn’t is a quick way to piss me and others off around here. It’s not complicated, it’s about using some common sense and the way you approach people.
13th November 2003 at 1:30 am #69151theFreyParticipant[quote=”zevalicious”]Not necessarily, Lexxathon.com advertises at every site the auctions they’ve been running as well. even though they’re not currently mods at Lexx.co. I’ts all a matter of interpretation. Even at sites that have no ‘symbiotic relationship’. :)[/quote]
Not me??? 🙁 Oh poo. 🙂
[quote=”zevalicious”] You should take a look at the archives of the Sci-fi and KEB boards sometimes, they’re riddled with posts from people alternate nicks, some of them you readily know. ;), not to mentionl this board as well.
Perhaps the folks posting here are doing it for reasons of fairness, not wanting opinions to be formed before the site was seen.
But if you’re not interested, then I guess it’s not worth discussing :)[/quote]I know the sci-fi board is riddled with fake nicks. Tis very depressing. About a year ago I was distressed to find that tons of the nicks posting there were the same 10 or 12 people. Sigh. 🙁 Even worse??? The xtra nicks were mainly used to flame other posters. I never much tracked the KEB board when I was there, but I will take your word for it.
So it is situations like the scifi trolling that make me wary of people with multiple nicks.
13th November 2003 at 5:58 am #69155mandara kParticipantWell I have 2 nicks one that is personal and special to me (mandara k) and the lexx.com one that is easier to explain; and since I have a tendency to be a little forthright 😛 I chose another nick over there as not to alert those that disliked me here too early so i had time to feel comfortable over there. I also changed since I started here so anew name can reflect a change. If i can get the avatars dancing for me here I’d be merr go rounding my avatar.
I do feel a little more comfy over there but I prefer this site; I like that symbiotic bond I have here which is I may write and it may be read ….it may not, but I will be whipped soundly if I step out of line. Uhhhhh ….. yeah. 😈
I also have been testing new sites for my own so I can write freely and freakilly if I choose without the wrongful imposition on others but I have yet to get it narrowed to something I like. We will see what transpires. What an exciting end of the year it will be!
Oh…. I’m declaring the month of December my birthday season; I hope you don’t mind …..please don’t trouble yourself about gifts and so forth…. just give me stimulation….. oops!!!!! sorry….stimulating conversation 😉
Let the festivities commence!!!!!
13th November 2003 at 6:00 am #69156JhevzParticipant[quote=”LexxLurker”]
And if you’re around here long enough, feel free to mention your site if you think people might be interested in knowing more about you and your interests(within reason folks). Jhevz recently put up a fantastic site which has a lot of personal information, yet still has a great little section on Sci-Fi conventions (Sorry Jhevz for singling you out!) So not only was I treated to some great pictures of old conventions but I got to learn a little more about one of our contributors.[/quote]That’s perfectly ok, LexxLurker,
I’m glad you used me as an example; & I’m also glad you like the web site. 🙂 I’ll be sending you a message before the night’s over; & I’m glad you think it’s a nice site. 8) 🙂mmlover,
I do think LexxLurker’s right, if you put your newly formed MM Forum as a web page, then others have a choice whether or not to view it or not. I’d also suggest adding it as part of your sig, so that way, others know what they may be looking at. Good luck with it & as soon as my parents & I are back online (without problems), I’ll sign up; I too am an MM fan. 😀Lexxians Unite,
Jhevz 😉22nd December 2003 at 6:20 am #69471ilyekkakaiParticipant[quote=”mandara k”]
Oh…. I’m declaring the month of December my birthday season; I hope you don’t mind …..please don’t trouble yourself about gifts and so forth…. just give me stimulation….. oops!!!!! sorry….stimulating conversation 😉Let the festivities commence!!!!![/quote][color=red] 😯 Cool, a whole month of PaRtY! 😀
Cheers Mandara K !^__^ 😉 [/color]23rd December 2003 at 11:51 pm #69492mandara kParticipantJust popping to say thanks for the nod about my birthday; peace and good humor to all of you!
Patience grasshopper., let’s see what the new year brings; of course there are always ups and downs; that is something that as much as we scrunch up our eyes and wish they could go away; bad goes with good. The question is can you handle the bad without it handling you? We must be a master of our minds and should not let our minds master us.
I’m going out of town around my birthday so if you are out and about on Saturday remember to raise a glass to the K; And I’ll remember all of you.
24th December 2003 at 4:43 am #69493BowCatzParticipantThe [color=red]Devine MM [/color]has a new website? Okay, so email the link to me please. That way no one gets offended and two pages of flame warfare can end.
[color=cyan]Peace in 2004.[/color] 😛
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