manual backup
[quote=”Headgehog”][quote=”MuadDib”]because we don’t yet have neurotic computers that kill astronauts and expire whilst singing daisy (although that does make a great shutdown sound 😀 ) [/quote]
Give me seven minutes…[/quote]
[quote=”Muadib”][quote=”Headgehog”]Give me seven minutes…[/quote]
😯 Oh ye flipping hairy Gods! he’s going to build Skynet![/quote]
[quote=”Corvina”][quote=”MuadDib”][quote=”Headgehog”]Give me seven minutes…[/quote]
😯 Oh ye flipping hairy Gods! he’s going to build Skynet![/quote]
Nah he doesn’t even have to build anything. Nuerotic computers are already here. My one’s not only self aware it’s actually terrified of the crowbar that I keep beside it.
Anyone remember a Film called The Forbin Project – based on DF Jones’ book Colossus – same kinda thing as Skynet but nice twist. Colossus the computer seizes control of both US and Soviet weapons systems and the Film ends with the line ” This is the voice of World Control –under me the human race will stop fighting and learn to prosper…[/quote]
[quote=”Sidhecafe”]MuadDib wrote: [quote]I think in the end we’re probably going to realise that this is one of those discussions that can do one of two things:
1.) Carry on perptually with everyone giving their piece then others detracting and adding to those pieces, until nobody remembers what was originally being discussed (sounds like a lot of government commitees doesn’t it? ),
2.) Or everyone will agree to disagree, and the discussion will fall silent for a while until someone necroposts to it and the whole viscious cycle starts again,[/quote]
😈 😆 😆 Apophatic cultural criticism….
So we’re really in the realm of defining something by what it’s not??? How did we get here?! 😳
So back to Logan:[quote]
A theist may believe that the universe is fully knowable by God… Materialists tend to also fall on the assumption that the universe is knowable (dosen’t mean we will ever fully know it). Perhaps it is rather an optomistic assumption in science.
[/quote] and :
[quote]Perhaps Douglas Adams had it right when he said that the whole universe could be extrapolated from a piece of faerie cake — eat up (if I’m getting my science from the Hitchhiker’s books, then I’m in real trouble).
One thing I think I can fairly safely say in all of this discussion is that science fiction shows tend to be more influenced by other science fiction than by science (in a more direct manner).[/quote]
I agree with Logan tremendously on his final point, scifi is influenced more by what has occured in the genre before hand than in any actually scientific extrapolation.
So that’s how this thread started right??? 😆
And in a tremendous effort I will not dive into “deep epistemological” discussions over this because as I said it’s shades of meaning, slivers of semantics that Logan and I could could on and on about the nature of the knowable vs. unknowable universe…
Another time, another thread for that maybe…[/quote]