Prejudice in science fiction
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Originally posted by DalekTek790:
I never said anything about genetic manipulation, either. From a purely logical point of view sex would have no biological purpose if reproduction is done through cloning. The abandonment of the practice would be cultural, not genetic. Perhaps some members toward the beginning would require processes like therapy, instrumental conditioning, or even drugs to eliminate urges (as was done in Terrestria), but it would be done.
See the movie THX-1138. It’s all about a society like that. People will have sex anyway unless it’s bred out of them.
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Originally posted by DalekTek790:
And the idea that a clone race would try to alter the non-clones is just part of the bias that clones are evil, which is simply not logical. A cloned race would exist because there were no other humans. Cloning would be a way to perpetuate the dwindling human population in the unfortunate event of near extinction. Clones would not only be human, but the [i]only[/i] humans.
If that were the horrifying case I think that the survivors would attempt to artificially create genetic variation in children in order to create hereditary variety. (e.g. White girl and black guy has oriental and middle-eastern paternal twins.)
But if all they could do is clone from one original, then they are doomed. Boring, to say the least.
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Originally posted by DalekTek790:
To use my own hypothetical example, the Yün Siph are pacifists. They take action only when order is disrupted. The war on their people was started by an evil totalitarian régime who used religious and political manipulation to convince the trans-human commonfolk that the Yün Siph were the source of all their problems. This propaganda campaign was launched for the purpose of scapegoating, placing blame on a group that the organization seeking power had the ability to eliminate.
Interesting story idea. But unless the sexual drive was genetically eliminated, a good percentage of the Yün Siph would be gay, like in [i]Nook[/i].
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Originally posted by DalekTek790:
never said anything about sex. Aleck however focused entirely on that subject and put me in a position where I had no alternative but to address that topic. An Aleck+followers vs. Lee topic is exactly what I was trying to avoid here (read my first post). And I didn’t say anything about myself except that I do not believe the theory that there is some sort of instinct that makes people have a sexual appetite.
Aleck is trying to make me out to be somehow abnormal. The fact is that I am just an average 18 year old American male college freshman.As my hero Dr. Carl Sagan said, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” I would like to hear some sort of legitimate scientific evidence that this notion of an inborn sex drive is accurate. I believe what is factually supported. Nothing more, nothing less.
After careful review of a number of videotapes of a popular British television show and in light of the preponderance of evidence found in the SadGeezer bulletin board message-posts about your sexual hang-ups, I have no choice but to conclude that you are indeed a smeghead.