Re:Qizarate and Thinking Machines
[quote=”LexxLurker”]When that movie was produced (83) Herbert had not yet written the final books, I think he was only up to God-Emperor at that point and God-Emperor was to be the final book. Then out of the blue in 83’ish he announced that the series would conclude and oh btw come see my movie! Heretics came out in 84 and Chapterhouse in 86.
So he began to build upon ideas that came to him from the Encylopaedia as well as the movie.(I’m assuming, but it seems odd that he had a new thirst for the “Dune” series after it’s release) [/quote]
The seriees was to conclude with GEoD.The publisher showed up to his house with a dumptruck full of money and told him to write more Dune novels. BTW he had to seperate himself from much of the Encyclopedia’s ideas for legal reasons. (independent authors’ intellectual copyrights). Much in the same way that the encyclopedia differs ever so slightly from the novels.
[quote]The other MAJOR MAJOR hint that we got in Herberts narration of Lynchs Dune [/quote]
Cool I didn’t know that was his voice!
[quote]“Some of mankind turned their machines against the rest of mankind and enslaved them.”
Why would Herbert contradict himself when the books clearly state that it was machines not humans that enslaved mankind?
In the prequels we learn that it was in fact Humans that enslaved manking. They realized mankind had become so lazy and reliant upon machines (non-thinking ones) that this small group of Humans later known as the Titans used that technology to enslave their own race and take over.
It was later when the Humans faced a mortal death that they themselves became machines, forever immortal.
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The titans ruled for a thousand years. But they were lazy too and created a program to manage the machines for them, this program evolved into Omnius. Omnius took control of the Titans and humanity, so the machines were in fact slave masters of humanity.
Leto’s goal was to make sure that humanity always kept growing an expanding. Except for a boom in growth and exploration immediately after the Jihad, humanity remained mostly dormant for 14,500 years. Leto forced a need for humans to expand subconsciously into humanity. He also destroyed any system that would have held all of humanity together, ex: Spacing Guild, Fish Speakers, Ixians, Tleilaxu, Bene Gesserit, Lansraad. This way is a catastrophe occurs to one part of humanity, it wouldn’t destroy the rest of us.
As for Siona, hiding humans from prescience was a way to keep a mysterious force from tracking down all of humanity one at a time.