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[[Specifically, who dispenses proper permission?]] In reguards to APEC fics.
Ask Dishroom_Princess to give you a clone. That’s the short of it, but you could ask any number of ppl and they’d get her to give you one.
[[Exactly how are the bulletin board posts marked in order to indicate that they are fan fiction posts? (FF and CF are examples. Any others?)]]
FF: Fan Fiction (Regular)
CT: Chocolate Tradition
CF: Clone Fiction
[[If these fan fications are games, how are they started, who starts them, how long do they run, are there points involved, what is the goal, etc. If they are like role-playing games, is there a “game master” or “referee” that conducts each game? Are points awarded in some fasion?]]
Sometimes they are played like a round robin, other times people just write their stories about their characters like any other kind of story and post them.
[[I take it that APEC is an organization that holds executive authority over “clone” fan fiction that is posted on SciFi.Com/Lexx. What do the initials A.P.E.C. stand for? Does APEC have any other presence on the Internet other than at SciFi.Com/Lexx? Does APEC maintain their own webpage? How does one join APEC? What are their rules of behavior?
“Just the facts, ma’am.”]]
APEC: All Powerful Estrogen Cloud
Apec has a website… and there is a lot of info at the Lexx Hospitality Page. [url=http://www.geocities.com/lexxhospitality/]http://www.geocities.com/lexxhospitality/[/url]
[[Did you invent CowboyKai yourself? Or was the name assigned to you as part of the parameters of the role-playing game? How does one aquire “possession” of a Kai clone?]]
She got a clone, named him and came up with the character persona.
[[Are there other places on the Internet that are popular places to post fan fiction? Specifically, are there places dedicated to Lexx fan fiction?]]
I post all my stories on my own page, many people archive theirs on their site… try a search engine. But Splarka’s Links is a good starting ground to look — so is Saddy’s links.
[[Sarcasm aside, does APEC use the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board to audition potential players in their clone fan fiction? Or are there other bulletin boards that the general public can visit, experiment with fan fiction, and win the approval of other APEC members?]]
Why should I set it aside… you never do. ;o)
Nobody auditions anybody, people ask to join in the fics.
[[Good question. Would a bulletin board forum that is exclusively dedicated to Lexx fan fiction present a solution to this arguement? What would be the downside of this solution?]]
I don’t think anything will satisfy everyone considering it’s NOT all about the fics, they are just part of it.
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Originally posted by Xev of R2D2:
I also see that the posts where some people who registered nicknames mocking me were not taken down.
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These are very serious accusations indeed. Have you made inquiries with the people at SciFi.Com?]]
I don’t know if they have been or not. I didn’t post in those threads so I have no idea if those names have been blocked.
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Originally posted by elfie:
scifi has tens of THOUSANDS of registered users, and only a handful (roughly… FOUR!!!) are being accused of anything at all.
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Who are these accused people? So far, I think there’s Doffy, micromary, dgrequeen. Did I get those names right? Any others?]]
Yup… that’s about it.
[[What is KT? Is it a bulletin board? A website?]]
It is the email group at Yahoo that the APEC members and others post at. It has a website, files section, chat room… just a basic forum.
[[I think fiction based on established characters and stories is just fine.]]
That’s cool that you think that… it’s my fave kind, too. But it IS just what you like, you have to accept that other people like other types of non “cannon” things, too. If you don’t think it should EXIST, that is also your view. YOUR view… other people don’t want it to ever stop — such is the way of things.
[[The bulletin board system at SciFi.Com, in general, is utter cr@p.]]
The only thing I don’t like are the ads… but I get a headache from the eye straining colors here so go figure. Sorry you don’t like it there, I guess this bud, err, boards for you. ;o)
[[All of this results in my opinion that fan fiction is a nuisance on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board.]]
Well you’re entitled to that opinion, but there are at least 50 people who don’t share it… just to be noted. And that’s just the people *writing* it, not including who knows how many people are *reading* it.
[[Originally posted by elfie:
i don’t write clone or chocolate stories, but i like to read them, just the same. don’t like it- don’t read it. purty simple.
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Yes, that’s a simple answer.
But I would like to make an analogy. Bulletin boards such as the ones at SciFi.Com/Lexx are open to the public.]]
Well, Scifi is like the OPEN basketball courts. If I didn’t like the way you and your group were playing basket ball on it your turn on the court — that would be tough luck for me because it’s not my game. And when it’s my turn to play, you also have no say in it. So what someone chooses to post there… in a free country on a free BB… as long as they aren’t there just to cause trouble, you have to live with it.
But you don’t like it at Scifi, so this is not your problem.
[[The SciFi.Com bulletin board is open to anyone. No one regularly moderates that forum. The only action on the part of the SciFi Channel that is ever taken is against anyone who posts offensive comments. Aside from that, anything goes. This is another failing on the part of the SciFi.Com bulletin boards.]]
Perhaps, but moderating thousands of people is a much more difficult task than the few hundred here at Sad’s. People post what they want, and only the stuff SciFi deems offensive gets pulled — that’s not entirely unmoderated.
[[I disagree. There have been plenty of complaints about this issue.]]
About the fics at scifi.
Mainly by the same handful of people, and the couple people who feel slighted somehow by apec/ kt/ scifi bb.
[[Then people who are interested in writing and/or reading Lexx fan fiction should go to those sites and not use the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board as a workshop to practice their art. I beleive that regular announcements about those Lexx fan fiction sites posted on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board would be welcomed by many and tolerated by everyone.]]
The only problem with that is there would no longer be a well known site for new fans to discover the fiction at. If it hadn’t been at scifi, I’m not sure I would have found it. And for me at least, that wouldn’t have been a preferable scenario. If it had been in private lists, there would have been no visible way for me or anyone else who’s interested to discover it.
I DO just announce new fics rather than post them there… what is the difference? It is still a “post about someone’s fic”, since no one forces anyone to open the story posts and read them.
[[This is the very heart of the issue. Fan fictions posted on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is the most talked-about complaint. It is the usual reason why people ditch that bulletin board in favor of SadBoard. These fan fictions are driving people away from the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board.]]
…And it is also the reason some people visit Scifi instead of the Sadboard.
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Originally posted by elfie:
HAVE YOUR FUN AND FORGET ABOUT CLONE FICS AND APEC!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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This I do. But the only way to ignore Lexx clone fan fictions and APEC is to not visit the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. Their presence cannot be ignored.]]
It can be if you do not open the fics.
[[One final thing. I think that the members of APEC should no longer be concerned with the antics of X. I think that story is over. The real issue, I believe, is the presence of fan fiction at SciFi.Com/Lexx in general that is regarded as a nuisance. And I must yet again strongly advocate the activation of a bulletin board forum (here at SadBoard or elsewhere) that is entirely dedicated to Lexx fan fiction without any worries of dire criticism.]]
What you think should happen at a BB you do not like or go to doesn’t carry much weight. The people who are regulars at Scifi’s opinion’s matter to me on the subject (just speaking for me) and the only people who complain are people who don’t like Scifi enough to begin with and do not *hang out* there.
Without the fictions, there would still be the layout of the board… APEC would still be announcing it’s fictions somewhere and what you don’t understand is they’d be upset that they exist ANYWHERE.
Posts in [[ ]] are by Aleck:
[[I was put off by the clique-ish nature of the SciFi board almost immediately. It’s not because people there have RL ties with each other]]
Yes it is. People didn’t just meet at uncon, they spend every night talking to one another and spending their money to travel across country to visit one another. They really ARE close, don’t say that they’re not because there’s no way for you to know.
[[But getting along with others shouldn’t entail trying to get along with people who seem to make it a *chore*.]]
No, it shouldn’t be. I’ve disagreed with Valdron then the next day agreed with him on other things… with the exception of X and vyX, that IS how most interactions at Scifi go, too.
[[“like this place never has fights? Puh-leeze…” The difference is that here, even though there have been a fair share of arguments, at least they have some intellectual substance]]
Well that is your opinion. Not saying that none have ever been here, but there are some amazing posters at Scifi, too. It’s all a matter of opinion so I’ll give you that one.
[[(I mean, the last real argument we’ve have has concerned the psychological and physiological bases of human instinct, for crying out loud), and none of them have ended up polarizing groups of people into rival groups or caused people to pledge to never speak to another person again.]]
If DalekTek posted an image of himself at the conclusion of the thread pointing a gun and threatening to shoot you… you might never want to speak to him again.
[[As many arguments as DT and I have had, I can’t say that I hate the guy, nor can I say that I will never have a good word for him.]]
That’s cool… I like DalekTek, and I think your posts aren’t bad. How MANY times do I have to state that I don’t hate any of you, I just don’t agree with you all on everything.
[[because people just post…
one…
chapter…
of…
their…
96…
part…
epic…
at…
a…
time…
…which just eats up space.]]
I wish there were some 96 part epics out there. ;o) Actually, they average about 5-7 chapters or so. Sadgeezer’s actually loads slower for me than scifi, so it’s not much of a bother to click the “prev” link at scifi aaaand… look at more posts.