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Fatguy
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[quote=”SadGeezer”][quote=”Fatguy”] 💡 💡 💡 💡 💡 Hey- 100 posts!!!!! Do I get a prize? 🙄 😕 Maurice[/quote]

Yep 🙂

Send me your address by email and I’ll send you a Sadgeezer keyring (it’s a cheepo plastic one so don’t get too excited 🙂 )
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That goes for any other 100 plus poster too o’course :)[/i][/quote]

Thanks Sadgeezer!

One other thing….. Rereading my last post made me think that I sound like some form of supporter for the rights of terrorists – it is not. What you have to understand is:

1. A person can not be branded with the term “terrorist” without evidence.

2. Until the state proves that person is a terrorist; he is to be treated as innocent until proven guilty (as in most – but not all countries).

3. The only tool available for the state to fairly try a person for terrorist acts is a trial and jury of impartial people who will render a judgement based on the facts and the rules of evidence, etc…… The defendant’s lawyer should also have full disclosure of the prosecution’s evidence so as to mount a defence, etc…… The defendant should also have access to a lawyer so that person understands his rights and the procedures of the system of jurisprudence. The trial should be public.

4. If acquitted; the accused is to be immediately released. If convicted – that individual is to be sentenced within the confines of punishment stated in the law (i.e. no death penalty in a country that has outlawed the death penalty…..).

We – live in a society of citizens…..not savages. To allow some official unlimited power to detain anyone without good reason, to assassinate suspected people without trial, to impose on the privacy of another without providing evidence (of that need) to an member of the judiciary – are marks of a retrograde society. We – are above that.

There are bad people out there – but we are better than them because we are fair, we are upfront, and we live by a code….. The terrorist tries to create chaos by his actions – a society can never bow to the terrorists wishes by chucking it’s most valued commodity – it’s constitution. It is a worn out phrase – but all you ever have in the end – are your rights and freedoms…..

Maurice