one bite stand?!!
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Originally posted by FX:
so you are positing a sort of manifestation, with no real powers to act on its own besides talking/maintaining a shape and manipulating others?
No, not really. I’m not saying that it’s incapable of doing so, but that it’s in its best interest to *not* do so while posing as Spike. I could be wrong here, I admit, but I think that it was aiming to put Spike in action in order to have Buffy kill him later. I don’t know why, as none of this being’s plans are really clear right now, but it was obvious that it was trying to get Spike caught and sacrificed by the Slayer (particularly when “he” confronts himself and tells him that it’s not time for this to happen yet, and that he’s ruining the plan). If it were the being that was actually doing the killing, Buffy may have caught it in the act (and in Spike’s guise) and attempted to kill him. If she were successful in injuring the Big Bad, it could throw off its plans. Plus, there’s next week’s exploration of his “addiction,” which seems to be newly found (though he is a vamp, he did seem to have his thirst for human blood under control).
quote[quote]i think it killed the people, then woke spike up to bury them and eventually remember the burials, although spike does not seem to actually remember the killings…and wouldn’t the big bad want to torture spike more by making him remember the killings themselves? spike’s soul is making him suffer for all the killings he has committed, and this thing is all about creating pain and dissension…[/quote]
Well, he did seem to remember the killings and attacks pretty well toward the end of the episode, when the big bad let go of his head. I think that perhaps the big bad was blocking those memories, and was planning on unleashing them at a later date in order to severely up his self-loathing quotient (possibly to increase Spike’s dependence on the big bad — remember his crying out for him to stop the memories, like he was doing earlier? — or maybe to simply send him even more headlong into self-destructive mode by revealing his addiction to blood and his inability to stop killing even though he’s trying to be “good”).
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unfortunately, any prolonged exposure to new-age type morons, as is wont to occur in la-la land, is going to give you at least the vocabulary, but not necessarily the syntax…i am just thinking about marti noxon talking about having all these books about demonology around, and joss whedon just telling her to forget all that, they are just making up demons as they go along to facilitate the story/make the allegory
work… [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Good point. But I still think that they know the tenets well enough to use what they need and recognize what they can alter, and to what extent, and still retain some consistency. They may not be practicing Wiccans or anything, but I think they know their basics (not that any of the specifics — gods, demons, etc., have any basis in the religion, but just the vague concepts involved).
quote[quote]may i snidely remind you how annoying groups of satanists can be? except that hey are usually discussing investments and summer homes ? [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img][/quote]
Precisely why I don’t hang out with groups of Satanists. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] Or groups of [i]anything[/i] for that matter. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
–Aleck