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8th January 2002 at 12:14 am #36769SadGeezerKeymaster
Do you think Lexx has anything in common with the classic Aliens films? Or are they the two ends of the Sci-Fi scale?
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http:www//members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/jumpingjedi007/8th January 2002 at 12:35 am #51261FlamegrapeParticipantPossibly H.R. Giger’s vision of biomechanics might be read into [i]Lexx[/i]. But I don’t know, not much more than that… ?
8th January 2002 at 12:40 am #51262AnonymousGuestquote:
Originally posted by JumpingJedi:
Do you think Lexx has anything in common with the classic Aliens films? Or are they the two ends of the Sci-Fi scale?
Tone-wise, they couldn’t be farther apart, though the second [i]Alien[/i] film (my least favorite, though I’m in the minority on that one…I just really hate James “character development? what’s that?” Cameron) and the fourth come closest. Superficially, though, yes. Both [i]LEXX[/i] and the [i]Alien[/i] series feature crews of “real” people, rather than superhuman heroes, and there are a number of shots and set-ups in [i]LEXX[/i] that parallel those in the [i]Alien[/i] films. For instance, the Lizard Zev attack on Doctor Kazan is exactly like the Alien attack on Veronica Cartwright. Also, the initial plot set-up of “791,” with its abandoned spacecraft, its vague distress signal, and its “prisoners” cocooned in strange egg-like biomechanical things (which was an initial plot point of [i]Alien[/i], and was dropped) is *very* similar to Ridley Scott’s first film in the series. There is also, in the fourth film, the parallel of a human/alien hybrid character.
–Aleck
8th January 2002 at 2:13 am #51263AnonymousGuestIm sure there is some influence. I have read that the beans are big fans of the original Alien and even included a homage to it in “Terminal” the scene where Eva eats that mean ol German
As for the genre, Alien(s) was really just a great horror flick that happens to take place in space(mostly). Same could be said about Lexx though I suppose. Lexx is really just an epic story that happens to take place in space(mostly). I think the greatest thing about Lexx is it takes all the obvious crap in Sci-Fi for the last 50 years and gives it a new and original spin. I swear to god if one more damn Roddenbery series comes out Ill flip. That guy had 1 dang story in his head and they made 800 series from it. Talons, Vulcans, Nietchzens they all come from the same concept he originally made Spock into. Dont get me wrong, I love star trek and I like EFC. But Sci-Fi was screaming for series like Lexx.
But absolutly JJ they do have plenty in common. I think the “organic” feel to the Universe in film is credited to Ridley Scott, but the beans perfected it and made it sexxy.
edit: I shoulda read Alecks post first. I had forgotton about 791, that was just very Alien’ish too.
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8th January 2002 at 3:56 am #51264DalekTek790ParticipantThe thing I like about [i]791[/i] is that it starts out like it’s another cheesy [i]Alien[/i] wannabe (you know the type, they’re all over the Sci-Fi channel), then develops into something very different and original.
The setup is a lot like [i]Alien[/i]. We have a planetoid that looks quite like LV-426 and a dark derelict ship. The ship is sort of like part biomechanoid derelict and part [i]Nostromo[/i]. The lighting is exactly like in [i]Alien[/i], and many [i]791[/i] scenes have clear parallels in [i]Alien[/i]. The holding units look almost exactly like the ovimorphs only bigger, like in the earlier Giger designs. The 791 cyborg body in the pilot’s seat is like the biomechanoid pilot. The spacesuits used in the episode also resemble those in the movie.
But it quickly diverges considerably in plot. There’s nothing on the planet. The three threats are 791, Desh, and Lyekka. It’s all internal things, there is no external threat. Desh has no parallel that I can see in [i]Alien[/i]. Lyekka doesn’t either (although her morphing reminds me of a non-[i]Aliens[/i] James Cameron movie or two). Then we have the cyborg. It’s probably inspired by Ash, plus the obvious plot possibility of 790 getting a body (with a catch). The whole thing about a homicidal maniac’s consciousness remaining in his body reminds me of [i]Body Parts[/i], a horror movie I’ve never seen but I hear is really something. But there’s no real [i]Alien[/i] parallel there. 791 is like the opposite of the alien, and very little like the cold calculating demeanor of Ash. The final similarity is in blowing the antagonist out the air lock.
There’s nothing like the alien, and we are left without any parasitism, bug-eyed monsters, or any of the other trademarks of [i]Alien[/i] ripoffs.
10th January 2002 at 2:37 am #51265AnonymousGuestDalek you have some brilliant insight sometimes. Very few people watch all the Lexx eps, and even fewer realize that the crew is rarely/never in danger. They *are* the danger. Everything they meet has a really good chance (hmm bout 99.89%) of being destroyed.
And while 791 is actually one of my least favorite eps (other than the Renee Zellweger looking woman, yummm) it does exactly what you said. It teases you with the classic Sci-Fi ripoff, then just when you’re sure it is a ripoff they twist it beyond belief.
10th January 2002 at 6:47 am #51266FlamegrapeParticipantquote:
Originally posted by LexxLurker:
Dalek you have some brilliant insight sometimes. Very few people watch all the Lexx eps, and even fewer realize that the crew is rarely/never in danger. They *are* the danger. Everything they meet has a really good chance (hmm bout 99.89%) of being destroyed.
ROFL! I actually figured that out quite a while ago. Heheheheh! When I heard that [i]Red Dwarf[/i] alumni were going to guest-star on the show I thought, “Great! I can’t wait for this! But I wonder how they’re going to get [b]killed[/b]!”
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]11th January 2002 at 6:10 am #51267AnonymousGuestThe alien goo stuff on the walls in Aliens is similar to the parts of the Lexx.
The people on Lexx should have made it more like Aliens with the walls and goo. The Lexx should have been darker, not so colorful.
11th January 2002 at 3:35 pm #51268AnonymousGuestThere is a big connection between Lexx and Alien 3! Can you spot it?
19th January 2002 at 5:10 am #51269AnonymousGuestThe big connection with Lexx and Alien 3 is how the guy who played Duke(season 3) and the Van Heslting guy(season 4)are in it.
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