Don’t know if this is sci-fi but i hate it!

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  • #40428
    SadGeezer
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    Whilst this is not technically sci-fi, it deals with themes of mind control which are an important sci-fi theme

    The Manchurian candidate:

    When his army unit was ambushed during the first Gulf War, Sergeant Raymond Shaw (Liev Schreiber) saved his fellow soldiers just as his commanding officer, Major Ben Marco (Denzel Washington), was knocked unconscious. Brokering the incident for political capital, Shaw eventually becomes a vice-presidential nominee, while Marco is haunted by dreams of what happened, or indeed didn’t happen, in Iraq.

    Searching for peace from his nightmares, Marco discovers that Shaw’s story is beginning to unravel; whatever the truth, the sinister Manchurian Global corporation is desperate to prevent him finding it…

    Says play.com

    Uh correct me if I’m wrong but in the old version, they were taken across the Manchurian border and brainwahed, that is the damn namesake of the film!

    This film sounds like a pale and very distorted version of the concept. The whole plote replacced. The Manchurian candidate, the original. was a well produced film which produced a warning which echoed even till now. How dare they piss on it like that. They missed the point, the soldier was not the candidate, he was PROGRAMMED to kill an opposing candidate to allow communists to have a puppet leader in Washington.

    What views does everyone have on what was, once, a brillient piece of cinema?

    #74410
    mysteriesofthesea
    Participant

    Viewers are expected to take whatever TV gare is thrown at them.

    Now, if we could get some new young film-makers out there with some fresh ideas……. 😛

    #74419
    damocles
    Participant

    Your view of the world leads to the product you produce.

    There are those who believe that Hollywood has lost touch with reality.

    There are those who believe that ‘political correctness” infects that creative community.

    And then: there are those, like me; who believe that the true explanation for this garbage is that, occasionally, some hacks get hold of a good property that they think they they can remake.

    Lacking the necessary talent to do anything original themselves, they re-market someone else’s work.

    Being hacks, they hire hacks to do the rewrite to impart “originality” to the remake and release it to the audience. They are selling “The Manchurian Candidate” label.

    Of course, there could be some truth to the “political correctness” angle…..

    #75733
    kokopelli
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    Whilst this is not technically sci-fi, it deals with themes of mind control which are an important sci-fi theme

    The Manchurian candidate:

    This film sounds like a pale and very distorted version of the concept. The whole plote replacced. The Manchurian candidate, the original. was a well produced film which produced a warning which echoed even till now. How dare they piss on it like that. They missed the point, the soldier was not the candidate, he was PROGRAMMED to kill an opposing candidate to allow communists to have a puppet leader in Washington.

    What views does everyone have on what was, once, a brillient piece of cinema?

    Yes, you are right. I was lucky enough to se the Manchurian Candidate before Frankie Blue Eyes bought up all the copies and snuffed it for 30 or so years.

    It’s been a little while since I saw this remake but I remember being very aggravated with the Tea-party Delusion Sequence. They did it so badly and wrongly with the wrong and unworkable idea I was just shaking my head and turning away.

    What is the problem? Trying to “modernize” it.
    Is the new generation the problem or the attempt to moderize to the constuct of an idea of an audience that doesn’t exist?

    In thinking about who they are trying to reach perhaps we can say the original tried to reach a minority group that cared while the new version tried to reach a majority group that superficialed.

    In the beginning, movie makers repected audiences, then later they found out they didn’t need to.

    Let us list modern remakes that failed :
    OK I’l add to to the list:

    Solaris

    (yes Manchurian Candidate is scifi)

    #76832
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I couldn’t bear to watch the remake..some films just should be left alone.
    Don’t even get me started on the Dambusters remake

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