Reviving Lexx from Midsummer’s Nightmare…
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I have to admit that season 4 has been mostly disappointing. Midsummer’s Nightmare was pretty bad, as it has lost the spice and intrigue that season 2 had (and season 3, at least somewhat).
You can’t really compare it to Brigadoom, that episode told an intriguing story. Midsummer’s Nightmare was just goofy! [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
If I was told to pick this series up from Midsummer’s Nightmare and continue, here’s how I’d proceed:
1) Oberon, like Mantrid, is from the cluster. He was a Biovisser but has spent so much time on earth that his memories of the cluster are long forgotten.
2) “Fairy Dust” is a living organism and is composed of the same material and bio structures as the key to the Lexx. It has a hallucinogenic effect on the mind and can control the mind, just like the key to the Lexx affects the Lexx’s mind. It also has the ability to return life to a dead organism (providing the cells are in good condition) and to control the functioning areas of a Devine assassin’s brain. It has a neutral effect on protoblood but is incompatible with parablood.
3) “Old Holly” (the stick that Uther’s companion carried) had the “fairy dust” organism infused within it, which was how it was able to kill Vlad.
4) The “fairy dust” might be able to help regain control of the Lexx, although it can have unpredictable effects on the Lexx’s brain.
5) Oberon made the key to the Lexx but also made the “fairy dust” for unknown reasons. (“Back door,” a way to protect himself against a Devine executioner and control Devine assassins, other personal reasons, etc…)
For me, these bullet points would probably put the show back up to par with season 2. Otherwise, continuity has been tossed out the window.
Good lord, a hairy midget, what were they thinking? 😛
Sorry, Oberon was just a [i]deus ex machina[/i].
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[i]Forward Grendel came,
stepping nearer. Then
he reached for Beowulf.Beowulf grasped his arm
and sat up. The criminal
knew he had not met
in this middle-earth
another with such a grip.
Grendel’s spirit was afraid
and his heart eager
to get away, to flee
to his hiding place, flee
to the devils he kept
for company. Never had he met
a man such as this.Beowulf then kept in mind
the speeches he had made
in the evening and stood
upright, firmly grasping
Grendel’s hand until
the fingers broke.The monster strove to escape.
Beowulf stepped closer. That
famous monster suddenly wanted
to disappear into the fens.
He realized the power of those hands,
the wrathful grip he was in.
Grendel felt sorry
he had made a trip to Herot.
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the episode spat monkey chunks, did it?
Bonee, either you secrete a worthless comment or you babble incomprehensible philosophical double-talk. I still don’t understand exactly what you don’t like about [i]Midsummer Nightmare[/i] and the rest of the 4th season. Can you at least state the one big thing that you dislike about the fourth season?
And you, Grendell, you’re establishing expectations about a show that’s already written, over, and done with. As I explained in another thread, this kind of talk doesn’t help you enjoy the show. None of the things that you want to happen will occur. And because they won’t occur, you’ll dislike this season more and more.
You guys want a science-fiction show and you feel you’re not getting one anymore. There was not that much “science” in the show in the first place! It’s always been about goofy sh|t that happens in space. Well, now it’s goofy sh|t that happens on Earth!
If the fourth season wasn’t on Earth and Oberon was, oh say for instance, Mentor the space wizard. And instead of turning Kai into a singing tree, he turns him into singing rock crystals. Same story, same lines (essentially), but different setting and characters. I bet you would have thought it was cool then… if only it was in outer space and not on Earth.
It kind of reminds me of [i]Galactica 1980[/i]. I was expecting a really cool sequel to the original [i]Battlestar Galactica[/i]. They find Earth and they should have teamed up with the Earthlings and defeated the Cylons once and for all. But no! It turned out to be one of the biggest jokes of science-fiction history! The inherent expectation of the monumental meeting with the “lost tribe of mankind” was it’s downfall. We all expected something epic and we didn’t get it at all, not by a long shot.
But the fourth season of [i]Lexx[/i] is not like that. There were no inherent expectations about what is supposed to happen when they visit Earth. But that didn’t stop many here at SadBoard from making up theories about “cycles of time”, etc.
Look, all I’m saying is that you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Try loosening up a bit. I recommend frop.
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img][i][b]”Alligator Pit! Alligator Pit! I wanna see the Alligator Pit!”[/b][/i]
And what you got was a vaporized Disney World and a charred alligator falling *slplat* on the hood of your car.
…and I’m laughing like I’ve never laughed before!
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img](Where’s Tish when I need her… Tish? You out there?)
“But the fourth season of Lexx is not like that. There were no inherent expectations about what is supposed to happen when they visit Earth. But that didn’t stop many here at SadBoard from making up theories about “cycles of time”, etc.”
Shaddup Flamegrape [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] I posted some of my theories too and I still believe em!! There’s nothing wront with speculation. There’s not anything wrong with posting on these boards saying you outright hate Lexx. This board is for discussions like that imo. Doesent mean I dislike S4 at all, in fact its been my favorite of all seasons. And the fact that its only halfway over is really saying something.
I would have to add my voice to Flamegrapes here when he claims many are upset because there isnt enough science fiction *anymore* in Lexx.
Did anyone see Supernova?
Ya know, the one with 2 suns that can talk, and the crazy guy with the sperm tube lookin for a lil Stanley H Tweedle lovin?
I think thats about as funny as carrots that jump up your bum and just as scientific. The show hasent changed at all its just evolved.
The show makes fun of sci-fi, and half the time the Beans are called on about a continuity problem their answer is “lighten up its just a show” Or like when they were asked about the 2 suns in Supernova and their significance. Their answer was something along the lines “Come’on 2 talking Suns, thats really cool! And no it doesent mean anything its just 2 talking stars” Sure Series 3 took a huge turn with its metaphysics but it still looked at Heaven and Hell from an hrmm obtuse point of view. With a look at Hell and Heaven that would make Dante himself grab a beer and chuckle.
edited because the rest of the post lead into a rambling on the overuse of the Dionysian term “Deus ex Machina” which strictly referred to things in the Dionysian festivals in plays such as Phaedra and Oedipus Rex.
End result: no Oberon was not a god dangling on a machinical crane nor was he strictly created for the purpose of reviving Xev, in fact quite the opposite; Xevs death led into a fantastic farse of Shakespeare and the modern *******ization of religion and ritual. I mean hell Druids worshipping their most sacred festival at a POWER PLANT, the bane to all nature?
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
Shaddup Flamegrape [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] I posted some of my theories too and I still believe em!! There’s nothing wront with speculation. There’s not anything wrong with posting on these boards saying you outright hate Lexx. This board is for discussions like that imo. Doesent mean I dislike S4 at all, in fact its been my favorite of all seasons. And the fact that its only halfway over is really saying something.
Yup, I have to admit you’re right. There is nothing wrong with speculation. People are free to post what they like here. That’s the point of having a bboard. [Flamegrape’s head hangs in Japanese-style shame.]
I guess what I was getting at was that carrying on with alot of “should of, would have, and could have” is largely irrelevent. And because of the chaotic nature of [i]Lexx[/i], specualtion about future episodes is almost as pointless. (Almost, mind you.) I didn’t mean to come across as some sort of spoil-sport. Just the opposite, all I want to do is to prevent fans from sabotaging their own enjoyment of the show.
I get the feeling that many here are expecting drama, epic revelations, and sci-fi explainations in this 4th and final season of [i]Lexx[/i]. I’m pretty sure that this is not going to happen. It will be silly and chaotic to the very last. Sit back, relax, and enjoy!
Cheers.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Can you at least state the one big thing that you dislike about the fourth season?
I know Flamegrape addressed this to bonnee, but I would like to say what my beef is.
The past seasons have had a central thread, off which the stories of the episodes were hung (some rather tenuously). The fight
against HDS in Season 1, the fight against Mantrid in season 2, the fight against Prince in season 3. They established the villain and then went from there. Season for has yet to establish a main villain or theme. The only theme I get is that the earth is doomed. The writers have thrown up several possible scenarios for the earths demise, Lexx’s weapon, the H-B particle theory, Prince as ruler, Vlad as ruler. Of course, Vlad has been terminated, so that element has been removed. The writers create the ‘expectations’. They build up the story, but so far, I expect nothing. The season has not built up to anything yet. Who is the main villain? What are the crew trying to accomplish? So far the story is very scattered. Maybe the writers will pull all the elements together and it will make sense in the end…I hope!quote:
You guys want a science-fiction show and you feel you’re not getting one anymore. There was not that much “science” in the show in the first place! It’s always been about goofy sh|t that happens in space. Well, now it’s goofy sh|t that happens on Earth!
If the fourth season wasn’t on Earth and Oberon was, oh say for instance, Mentor the space wizard. And instead of turning Kai into a singing tree, he turns him into singing rock crystals. Same story, same lines (essentially), but different setting and characters. I bet you would have thought it was cool then… if only it was in outer space and not on Earth.
Jeese Flamegrape, gives us some credit. We all love Lexx for it’s goofy, cheesy stuff, it’s irreverence to classic scifi and fearlessness of being out on the edge. But Lexx, like all good writing, always had a solid, captivating story that drew you in. This season is weak in that area, the most important area.
Here’s a grain of salt to take with my 2 cents [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] I don’t take anything too serious, especially TV shows.
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Originally posted by dgk:
Jeese Flamegrape, gives us some credit.
Sorry about that. It’s just that I’ve had my fill of the typical know-it-all fanboys. It’s left me ready to pounce on anyone who thinks that they know what’s best for any show/movie. I keep forgetting that [i]Lexx[/i] fans are not the typical sci-fi nuts.
I guess I like discussions along the lines of “Isn’t Oberon and Titania the names of two large moons of Uranus?” That’s much more fun than “This season sucks!” Since I like the show, how am I to respond? Should I respond with “Oh you’re right. What was I thinking when I was enjoying this season the whole time?”
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
[QB]Sorry about that. It’s just that I’ve had my fill of the typical know-it-all fanboys. /QB]
AMEN!
Bonnee, either you secrete a worthless comment or you babble incomprehensible philosophical double-talk. I still don’t understand exactly what you don’t like about Midsummer Nightmare and the rest of the 4th season. Can you at least state the one big thing that you dislike about the fourth season?
——————————————–Flame, the monkey chunks comment was a question because I haven’t seen it yet (its two weeks away downunder) – as for the question’s ‘value’, I’m only playfully ‘quoting’ Aleck here (in his summing up of my general disquiet.) I’m not going to waste your time by restating what I’ve ‘whinned’ about elsewhere, especially since the feeling has been that i’ve been flogging a dead horse. Since youu’ve asked – nay, demanded – though: To sum up – too many episodes, not enough ideas. The first part of season 4 seems to consist of a premise in search of situations – and it has played out as if any idea/s will do just to fill the season quota along the way. Instead of playing to its many strenghs (quirky writing, left field developments, interesting stories) it has been playing to its many weaknessness (stupidity, reductiveness, repetiveness, etc).So whilst Lexx is in/famous for its varying quality, the variable approach has tended to set the tone for an entire season. This is the first time I’ve watched Lexx and thought ‘whatever’ – it hasn’t been particularly good or bad, its just been ‘there’ – and it will stll be there for 20 plus weeks. this hasn’t prevented me from enjoying a couple of episodes of course – I liked Pk4, Vlad and Fluffdaddy – but everything else has barely registered, including these enjoyable episodes. I initially had people over to watch the show with me – I don’t remind them its on anymore, and they don’t remember to come around. Someone asked me if I would tape an episode for them, and I told them I’ve got better thing to do with the heads of my video recorder. If they wanted to watch it, they could risk enduring it with me. Bearing in mind that I have each of the other Lexx episodes on tape, and that I’ll only tape season 4 in repeat if I can stomach a season in search of an identity or purpose. It has to get better of course, but when someone like Tony Fawl cries fowl about upcoming episodes – well, then I can only be surprised by (and hopeful for) an eventual turn for the better. My feeling is that if the episodes I’ve seen were my introduction to the show, then I wouldn’t have bothered with it in the first place. It seems to be trading on past glories and our good will. I certainly wouldn’t have persisted if these episodes provided the entry point to a new series. I’m starting to think that I should put off writing my article until the season has completed its run and become a dim memory- that way, if anyone is motivated in seeing it, they can watch it in repeat from the beginning and decide for themselves whether I’m full of s/hit or miss.
AMEN
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