Scifi shows you’d like to see
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I was at a BBQ the other day, and we started kicking around our opinions about scifi/fantasy books we’d like to see made into tv series or movies. Of course, we all had to choose who’d direct and star in them, as well. [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
My choice for a series was Steven Brust’s Vlad Taltos series. I’d cast Peter Woodward as Vlad (the hair thing might be an obstacle…), Peter Wingfield as Kragar, Claudia Black as Aliera and Anthony Ainley as Morolan. And since I’m only dreaming, I’d have B5’s JMS directing.
(As far as movies go, I stuck with Brust and chose “Cowboy Feng’s Space Bar and Grill”.)
How about everyone else?
(I know this isn’t REALLY SciFi TV, but it’s been kind of quiet lately… and a girl can dream, can’t she?) [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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summerdaysandsI would like to see a show, whether it be series, miniseries, film, or just a one-off tv movie, that is entirely non-human.
The cast would be entirely alien, completely take out any human presence. Forget all about human idiosyncrasies, morality, philisophy, relationships, sexuality, idealology, etc. Completely written from an alien perspective without any of the trappings of human dogma or taboos. I want to see the world (universe) through an alien point of view.I am just tired of the same old humanitys struggle against some alien threat and always winning no matter what the odds.
oh well, just a thought.
antiZero
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SOYLENT GRUEN IST MENSCHENFLEISCHHow DOE Aliens se the world? Can you please explain that?
Try read Marvel scesiall books! (Like Earth-X!)
There is a lot talks about the world out of Aliens point of vue!When peapol put out of how aliens se thing, it usaly means no fealings! No hate, no love, no meaning, no real thoughts, just instincts of getting children, expand there space, bekome more than they are!
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I am the crusader
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[b]How DOE Aliens se the world? Can you please explain that?
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Well not being alien myself, I can only speculate that an alien POV would be unlike anything that a human mind could relate to, then again maybe there is an universal consciousness that would make even an alien perspective similiar to ours.
But to answere your question, no I guess I cannot explain it.quote:
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When peapol put out of how aliens se thing, it usaly means no fealings! No hate, no love, no meaning, no real thoughts, just instincts of getting children, expand there space, bekome more than they are!
Like Borg or something!
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That is the typical human portrayl of how aliens operate. I do not think that in our limited human understanding we can fully distance ourselves from our own culture and imagine what other species would be like because we have no frame of reference.
Still all pseudophilisophical ramblings aside, I would still like to see a show with an all alien/robot/whatever cast, without the token human captain/navigator/doctor/whatever.
antiZero
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SOYLENT GRUEN IST MENSCHENFLEISCHI read a story once about a lifeforce on a planet that was scared about a off planet force making an impact on thier way of life amd it turned out to be us! I think we on earth think we have the best way to live but that is not so!
I think thats what I love about sci-fi, that there are different lifeforces that dont live by our life rules(and why should they)
I would like to see any thing by Orsan Scott Card made into a movie. Yes I know he wrote the novel for Abiss(?) but that dosent count! There are lots of sci-fi writers who have best sellers that I think should be made into movies! And not RLH!
When RD comes out as a movie, I hope that all the “Sci-fi” geeks show the world that we are a force to recond(?) with!
LONG LIVE SCI-FI!!!!!——————
Monkey
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Originally posted by Monkey:
[b]I would like to see any thing by Orsan Scott Card made into a movie. Yes I know he wrote the novel for Abiss(?) but that dosent count!
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Me too! Orson is tops!
I really liked pastwatch and the alvin journeyman books. I know its his most popular but I still havent read ender’s game, i will soon (pretty sure theyre going to turn it into a movie, check info page: [url=http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/endersgame.html]http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/endersgame.html[/url] ).He also plays alot of the civiliation series of games (my favourite too; civ3 comes out oct 17!) which explains why he likes alternative history stories i think.
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All the Star Wars books after Return of the Jedi – with Gl (from the past – the one that doesnt come up with crappy names) directing
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“Its heading for his testicles”
“Take it, take the leg!!!”
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[b]I’ve always thought ‘Restoree’ by Anne McCaffrey would make an excellent movie. It’s one of my favourite books but I’ve never met anyone else who’s read it.[/b]
I remember reading “Restoree” obsessively when I first bought it, but it’s been more than a decade, now, and I don’t remember all the details of the story. Now that you’ve reminded me how much I enjoyed it, I’ll just have to read it again. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
If anything by Terry Pratchett gets to television, Tom Baker should have a part somewhere, shouldn’t he? The animated series are alright (Wyrd Sisters, etc.), just not what I’d expected.
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summerdaysandsI’ve always thought ‘Restoree’ by Anne McCaffrey would make an excellent movie. It’s one of my favourite books but I’ve never met anyone else who’s read it.
And it goes without saying that anything by Terry Pratchett gets my vote.
I think that the Belgarid and the Mallorean series by David Eddings would make a really fun tv series. I’d like to throw Peter Wingfield into it and make him Belgarath but I don’t think it would work. He’s already played a 5000 year-old.
Terry Prachett should certainly have a tv series or movie out. Wyrd Sisters wasn’t enough for me and I didn’t get to see it all.
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Originally posted by tolandria:
[b]Terry Prachett should certainly have a tv series or movie out. Wyrd Sisters wasn’t enough for me and I didn’t get to see it all.[/b]
Well, after [i]Wyrd Sisters[/i] there’s [i]Soul Music[/i] (both of which, in an obvious bit of self-promotion, are currently available in North America from Acorn Media), not to mention [i]Truckers[/i], which I think is only available in the UK. Dreamworks has just bought the film rights to the Bromeliad Trilogy, and plan to make a [i]Shrek[/i]-like CGI-animated film out of it, and Terry Pratchett has been attatched to the adaptation of [i]Good Omens[/i], which Terry co-wrote with Neil Gaiman.
So, there’s Terry stuff out there, or coming out, but strangely little emphasis on Discworld-related stuff on the upcoming front.
–Aleck
quote[quote]I’ve always thought ‘Restoree’ by Anne McCaffrey would make an excellent movie. It’s one of my favourite books but I’ve never met anyone else who’s read it.[/quote]
I believe I’ve read it, but you’d have to refresh me on the contents.. or was that the one about an earth person who was stripped of her flesh then rescued by aliens?
quote[quote]And it goes without saying that anything by Terry Pratchett gets my vote.[/quote]
There are two animated Pratchett’s, Wird Sisters and Soul Music (I’ve only seen Wird Sisters on TV as Soul Music was video only)
quote[quote]not to mention [i]Truckers[/i], which I think is only available in the UK.[/quote]
I saw bits and pieces on the TV (before I’d read the book iirc) and later bought the video when I found it by chance in Woolworths.
quote[quote]Dreamworks has just bought the film rights to the Bromeliad Trilogy, and plan to make a [i]Shrek[/i]-like CGI-animated film out of it[/quote]
Now [i]that[/i] sounds cool [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Yes Cat, that’s the one. The resucers think she’s one of them and replace her skin. She’s in shock and is placed in a mental asylum and then, when she comes to her senses, escapes with a political prisoner.
There’s lots more but I don’t want to spoil it for anyone who’s not read it.
one word …
dune.
i know prequels are done to death
*cough enterprise cough sw ep 1,2,3, *
but maybe a series set on arrakis before kynes.
or better yet have movies explain the plot up till G.E. of Dune and then have a series take over explaining the scattering and famine times. its all wishful thinking though. nothing like that would ever get made.——————
mayor mccheese has declared martial law!Why? Why? [b]WHY[/b] do you want another [i]Dune[/i] film?!?!? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] There are already three, and there all crap. A prequel will only bring more pain. Just forget about [i]Dune[/i]. It’s been dune to death.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by DalekTek790:
[b]Why? Why? [b]WHY[/b] do you want another [i]Dune[/i] film?!?!? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] There are already three, and there all crap. A prequel will only bring more pain. Just forget about [i]Dune[/i]. It’s been dune to death.[/B]
because many more people happen to believe dune is excellent and apocryphal…yes the movies fall short; that is not a reflection on the book…the real reason is that the complexity and richness necessary for a dune prequel would require frank herbert’s talents, and he is dead…
alas poor frankie is dead … mayhaps we could make a ghola herbert to do the work for him.
yeah i guess you would need frank to do anything dune right. i mean look at the dune prequels. their f’ing full of plot holes.
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[b]alas poor frankie is dead … mayhaps we could make a ghola herbert to do the work for him.[i]yeah [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] you know, because dune is still a major reference point to me, when i first heard about lexx/kai i immediately thought of duncan idaho out of the ghola tanks, and having to ‘shock’ him into regaining his memories…when i finally saw the lexx movies, several months after s2 began here, i still thought it was a valid comparison, except all kai had to do was squish a few predecessor brains to get his memories back [/i]
yeah i guess you would need frank to do anything dune right. i mean look at the dune prequels. their f’ing full of plot holes.
[i]agreed, a lot of stuff would have been welcome, especially how the guild, and the bg evolved, and more of the ins and outs of the landsdraad…also would like to know all the history of the harkonnens and the atreides, and the plot to get jessica conceived by the baron…oh well, just have to wonder…[/i]
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DalekTek790- you didn’t like the last Dune movie, the one on scifi channel?
Did anyone know that they’re planning to make movies on the sequels through God Emperor?
Hmmm, I thought that I’d be happier given the opportunity to make all my favorite books into movies, but I’m not. I really think that whenever you make a movie, it never matches the complexity or depth of the book, and some books just wouldn’t make good movies. For instance, most of Anne McCaffrey’s books would make less than stellar movies, in my opinion, except for Restoree and the Crystal Singer series. The Pern and Rowan series are too mental to translate well to movies. I [i]do[/i] think that David Edding’s books would work well as movies, it’d be especially cool to see the Sparhawk series as movies. Some books that should never ever [i]ever[/i] be made into movies are: any of Robert Jordan’s Wheel of Time books, any of David Drake’s Lord of the Isles novels, and any of David Weber’s Honor Harrington books. In the epics there’s no way to capture the depth of the novel without making a movie 12 hours long and with the Harrington books, I’ve seen too many space operas gone horribly wrong on TV to ever hope that someone could do it right, there’s just too many places to mess up, and I think that a lot of the interrelations are too complex to survive the transfer, and that’s what makes the books so compelling. Wow, that’s a lot more than two cents, so I’ll stop now.
Pardon my run-on sentences, the bane of my existance (along with spelling).
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spooooon[This message has been edited by brainplague (edited August 24, 2001).]
I saw the 80s movie. That was bad. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] I saw the 90s miniseries. That was worse. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] I never saw [i]Dune Warriors[/i], though. From watching the movies, I don’t think I’d like the books. I hear there are [b]ten[/b] of them. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 24, 2001).]
I [i]love[/i] the books especially Dune, Children of Dune, and Heretics of Dune. I didn’t really like Dune Messiah, but that’s because I don’t like to see the mighty fall. I didn’t like the 80’s movie either, it didn’t live up to my expectations of what it should be. When I said movie I actually meant miniseries, sorry!!! But I really liked it, they changed the plot in a few places but they really stayed with the spirit of the series [i]I[/i] thought. I like a lot of Herbert’s stuff especially the Lazurus Effect, awesome!
Anyway they’re definitely doing a miniseries on Children of Dune, at least. anyone who cares check it out at: [url=http://www.scifi.com/dune/]http://www.scifi.com/dune/[/url]
you can find the info from there.dalektek790- firstly, what’s dune warriors? I don’t [i]think[/i] I’ve ever heard of it. you’ve never read any Herbert books? really? Do you read any Asimov, Bova, LeGuin, Wells, or any of the three R’s (Robert, Ray, and Ron)? Until you read some Herbert we can’t even agree to disagree, because I think they sort of expected anyone who watched the movies to have at least [i]some[/i] backround in the Dune universe, which is a totally cool place.
p.s. i read somewhere that you’re like 18, is that true? I thought that you’d be older with all you know about sci-fi stuff from the 70’s.
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Much Madness is divinest Sense-
To a discerning Eye-
Much Sense-the starkest Madness-
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Demur-you’re straightaway dangerous-
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Let’s get one thing straight. The 80s Dune movie was one of the first sci-fi things I ever saw. I know it’s not as good as the book, but I watched it over and over for years before I even knew there was a book because I was too young to read. So no matter how bad that movie is in comparison to the book, I LOVE it and I will defend it to the death.
As for the 90s miniseries…I just couldn’t accept it in place of my beloved movie. Especially with what they did to the Reverend Mother and the Guildsmen…and the Fremen’s eyes!!*shudders at the memory of the stupid glowing eyes*——————
Gideon: I thought you said you don’t hold a grudge.
Galen: I don’t. I have no surviving enemies. At all.“I’d far rather be happy than right any day.”
“And are you?”
“No. That’s where it falls down, of course.”–Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy“It’s all in the mind.”–George Harrison
these glowing eyes right?
[img]http://www.scifi.com/dune/images/gallery/d28.jpg[/img]
as opposed to these ones?
[img]http://www.fremen.org/museum/images/movie/24.jpg[/img]
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To a discerning Eye-
Much Sense-the starkest Madness-
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In this, as All, prevail-
Assent-and you are sane-
Demur-you’re straightaway dangerous-
And handled with a Chain-
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I loved the original Dune movie too. Whenever I got bored on a sunday I’d watch the video. No movie is EVER as good as the book it came from.
I agree that the Elenium would make a really good movie(s). When I read it I kept picturing Danziger from Earth2 as Sparhawk.
[img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] Ok, so the old eyes are a little glowy, but they’re not as bad as the new ones because in the old one the moon of Arakis isn’t freakin’ FLOURESCENT! You know what I’m talking about…in the new one…when they’re all chanting “Muadib!” with the flourescent moon shining on them making their eyes glow horribly *shudders*…almost gave me nightmares.
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Gideon: I thought you said you don’t hold a grudge.
Galen: I don’t. I have no surviving enemies. At all.“I’d far rather be happy than right any day.”
“And are you?”
“No. That’s where it falls down, of course.”–Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy“It’s all in the mind.”–George Harrison
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Originally posted by maryavatar:
[b]I loved the original Dune movie too. Whenever I got bored on a sunday I’d watch the video. No movie is EVER as good as the book it came from.[/b]
The David Lynch film of Frank Herbert’s [i]Dune[/i] is a very, very flawed movie. Lynch was, perhaps, not the best choice of a director. But with all of the studio-imposed edits on the film, it’s amazing that it makes *any* sense whatsoever. Rumors abound about a 6-hour “director’s cut,” which are pretty much bogus, but a much longer version *is* supposed to exist (which is *not* the broadcast version of the movie, which has a fair amount of poor-quality deleted scenes placed in the *wrong spots*, deletes key effects and opticals, and which render the movie even *less* comprehensible…David Lynch felt that this re-editing *so* destroyed the movie, he had his name taken off this version). But, for all of that, I thought it was a decent enough film. And, apparantly, I am not alone; Frank Herbert attended the first cast/crew screening of the completed film and lept to his feet, shouting “That’s it! That’s my book on the screen!”
–Aleck
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Originally posted by Aleck:
[b] The David Lynch film of Frank Herbert’s [i]Dune[/i] is a very, very flawed movie. Lynch was, perhaps, not the best choice of a director. But with all of the studio-imposed edits on the film, it’s amazing that it makes *any* sense whatsoever. Rumors abound about a 6-hour “director’s cut,” which are pretty much bogus, but a much longer version *is* supposed to exist (which is *not* the broadcast version of the movie, which has a fair amount of poor-quality deleted scenes placed in the *wrong spots*, deletes key effects and opticals, and which render the movie even *less* comprehensible…David Lynch felt that this re-editing *so* destroyed the movie, he had his name taken off this version). But, for all of that, I thought it was a decent enough film. And, apparantly, I am not alone; Frank Herbert attended the first cast/crew screening of the completed film and lept to his feet, shouting “That’s it! That’s my book on the screen!”–Aleck[/b]
i read that Lynch was first choice to direct return of the jedi. Maybe it’s sacrilege, but I think that he would have made a more interesting version than Marquand’s, which i thought seemed a little disney-fied.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
[b] The David Lynch film of Frank Herbert’s [i]Dune[/i] is a very, very flawed movie. Lynch was, perhaps, not the best choice of a director–Aleck[/b]
i am still torn on whether or not david lynch was the right choice, being as his stamp is so recognizable/unique…but i thought the real problem was daniela (?)de laurentis’ hands on interference throughout the movie…i will say in favor of the delaurentis’ involvement that they spent big money on the movie, and it shows everywhere, on the sets, and the incredible costumes, as well as the commercial blitz, which was considerable in new york, they even had macy’s do dune inspired windows and clothes…for sheer visual impact, the first cannot be beat…however, the change in the guild navigator’s modus, and how this concept of folding time [i]then[/i] got introduced into later dune books still annoys me, as does the ending which totally changed the books; paul was [i]not[/i] the kumquat haagendaz, and his ascendance to power, his holding the landsdraad, the guild, and the bg hostage was based on his ability to destroy the spice, ie by letting it rain on arrakis, if he did let it rain on arrakis, he would have destroyed his trump card…all right, i’ll stop now with the observation that the miniseries was more authentic, but lacked the visual splendor of the film…phew, sorry about that rant guys [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
Geezers, geezers…. don’t fight amongst yourselves. We should be united to see more sci-fi movies of EVERY sort, not squabbling over whether or not they need to remake Dune. I personally have neither read the books nor seen any of the screenplays, but I’m willing to support the idea… Now wouldn’t it be nice if everyone were nice? [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
WHOOPS… forgot to voice my opinions!! [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] Anyways, if you’ve read the Evergence trilogy by Sean Williams and Shane Dix, you probably agree that they’d make an excellent film (or miniseries), and, of course, Terry Pratchett movies. The animated series were good, I guess, but I like the idea of doing it with real people. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
I never knew that there where more than that 80´s Dune movie!
Whats there names? Fromw what year are they?Speacking of Dune! They are making a New Dune video game! But not one that are like the outher Dune games that are strategi games like Red Aleart!
They plan to fallow the books compleatly! And they will make it look like the 80´s movie! That means that the charackters and monsters and the world will look like in the movie! That should be satesfeing for fans!
As you al know, games have bekome mutch more than just something to play when your a kid!
More and more games are made to be as real as posible and sometimes like movies!
I cant wait for it to be reliased!
It will be relisade on Playstasion 2!
From what I have sein it will be great!
Looks like the movie! And the game will mean taking the role of the heros in the movie! Sneek, run, fight, solve pussles, infeltrate, war, love, tame the worms aso.!
If you can, play it! [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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