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23rd August 2001 at 5:07 am #37310SadGeezerKeymaster
Hi all,
I’m really sorry, but I’m drunk for the second night running while tying to write the XEVIVOR episode review. It’s such a good episode (and so wonderful to see Jeff hirscfield back as a writer don’t you think?!).
I’ve written two pages just of the opening sequence and guzzling too much red wine too quickly to get the job done! (I can’t write sadgeezer reviews while sober).
But the way , this is the first episode that is reviewed from a tape that is un-cut! the wondeful and superb sweetie [b]thefrey[/b], has been sending me tapes (coz she’s so cool) of the first few episodes, but Salter Street have finally sent me uncut versions so I’m doing reviews of those now [i](shower scenes will be re-scanned and pics posted this weekend)[/i].
Episodes 5, 6 and 7 are so wonderful that they are taking longer. So they wont be ready for posting until Sunday. Hope yer not too ****ed by this. If you want to see scans checkout the my wifey’s website at: [url=http://www.lexx.ufo.ru/synops.shtml]http://www.lexx.ufo.ru/synops.shtml[/url]
[b]exclusive![/b] For all you Xev fans out there, episode 4.07 (This Fridays episode) has a bath scene with a shot of Xev’s nipple! (sorry for being so sexist, but the scans from this scene (which will probably be cut for the US show on Sci Fi Channel) will be posted on Sunday night(maybe a little earlier if I don’t get too drunk)).
Meanwhile, the chief writer for the Andromeda series (Zack Stenz) has been getting on at me to review the latest Andromeda episodes so I’m a bit behind with everything.
I just wanted to let you all know that I’m working on it (all) and things should be up-to-date in the next few days. I have a warm red-wine feeling and couldn’t help thinking of you guys [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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[img]/sad-images/sad-sig.gif[/img]23rd August 2001 at 6:17 am #55505AnonymousGuestThanks Sad!!! This site certainly has some of the best reviews for shows period. Filled with pics and sound links as well as favorable commentary it makes reading these reviews almost as good as watching the episode [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
PS Next time Zach contacts you tell em we need more info/espidoes on Trances background this season [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
23rd August 2001 at 6:17 am #55506AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
[b]Hi all,I just wanted to let you all know that I’m working on it (all) and things should be up-to-date in the next few days. I have a warm red-wine feeling and couldn’t help thinking of you guys [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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yeah yeah yeah, check’s in the mail, i’m from the government and i’m here to help, and honey, i [i]promise[/i] i’ll pull out in time… [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
all seriousness aside, i feel honorbound to point out the deleterious effects of alcohol on the…erm..libido [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
love you saddy, can’t wait, any more kai cod scenes in the works? damn….
23rd August 2001 at 8:14 am #55507AnonymousGuestSaddy, you drinking on the job again (sack him!!!), if you are getting drunk tonight just remember the server isn’t a female companion, so don’t give it a drink and blow it up!!!
Can’t wait to see your reviews for Xevivor, as us poor brits have to live on breadcrumbs at the moment regarding Lexx, and ‘erm’ the nip slip from Xev (I know, but I am a red hot inferno of desire!!!).
Can you give the Chief writer of Andromeda a bit of advice?, tell him to resign because Andromeda is by far the worst Sci-Fi programme I have seen, I’m not being unfair, I watched the entire first season and that was bad enough, now I’ve watched the first two eps of S2, and I can’t believe it, but it’s got worse.
That programme will sink without trace fairly soon if thing’s don’t change, which is a shame because I think Kevin Sorbo is an excellent actor and Lexa is the prettiest sci-fi babe since Jeri (7 of 9), and I can’t believe Gene Roddenberry could have come up with something so poor.
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Annoyed Squishy23rd August 2001 at 9:10 am #55508AnonymousGuestAnnoyed Squishy:
They started Season2 already in Britain??? Doh here in America we got a few more weeks to wait. To be honest Im disapointed too. The show promised a strict arc and turned out only to have a few main plot episodes. Then the magog with their mysterious master come out of the blue in the last episode. *sigh* I did like many of the episodes, but the character Becca/Becka Valentine just needs to go. She was in the pilot for EFC and was terrible in that as well. She just isnt convincing enough in her role. Welp dont wanna talk too much OT so Ill end my minor critique there [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Thanks again Saddy and Squishy
Could you give me a spoiler or link to the season2 webpage? Im curious if there is any new additions or removal from last years cast. Thanks again.
23rd August 2001 at 9:53 am #55509AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
[b]Annoyed Squishy:They started Season2 already in Britain??? Doh here in America we got a few more weeks to wait. To be honest Im disapointed too. The show promised a strict arc and turned out only to have a few main plot episodes. Then the magog with their mysterious master come out of the blue in the last episode. *sigh* I did like many of the episodes, but the character Becca/Becka Valentine just needs to go. She was in the pilot for EFC and was terrible in that as well. She just isnt convincing enough in her role. Welp dont wanna talk too much OT so Ill end my minor critique there [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Thanks again Saddy and Squishy
Could you give me a spoiler or link to the season2 webpage? Im curious if there is any new additions or removal from last years cast. Thanks again.[/b]
Lexxlurker, if I had my way I would gladly swap Lexx S4 for Andromeda S2, but I think you guy’s in America wouldn’t be too happy with me!!!
I agree with you on that women who play’s Becca, I think her character is poor and as actresses go she is not a pretty one, acting wise or in the look’s department (thank god for Lexa!!!)…but she’s definitely got to go.
But the new season is really that poor, the first ep doing a poor rip-off of the borg, then having the people watching to be expected to feel sorrow for this drone that finds humanity and then dies within 20 minutes, was really bad writing.
The 2nd ep caused me to turn over to a boring football match (and god it was boring) within 15 minutes of it’s start.
It really has got worse, the writers for that show are the most appalling writers ever, the whole thing did look promising to begin with, but the writers have destroyed a fairly good idea, and managed to embaress poor old Kevin Sorbo and Lexa Doig in the process.
Anyway, as far as I can see there are no changes to the original cast, which like you say is a shame, as not only does that Becca need to go, but the magog with a vagina for a nose needs to go as well!!!
We are probably going to get told off now for posting Andromeda news on the Lexx forum, but for me I’m glad I wrote it, because anyone who was thinking of watching Andromeda should be warned.
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Annoyed Squishy23rd August 2001 at 11:46 am #55510AnonymousGuestWOW, SAD!! THAT’S AWESOME!!! THANX!!!
I would be more worried about the “faggot carrots” remark if I were you. You’ve seen what they can do [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
ThanX for the warning guys, but I already know better than to watch Andromeda.
I say we all ransack Sad’s house and confiscate the tapes [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
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“What fresh hell is this?”23rd August 2001 at 12:30 pm #55511AnonymousGuest[QUOTE]Originally posted by X:
[B]WOW, SAD!! THAT’S AWESOME!!! THANX!!!I would be more worried about the “faggot carrots” remark if I were you. You’ve seen what they can do [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
ThanX for the warning guys, but I already know better than to watch Andromeda.
I say we all ransack Sad’s house and confiscate the tapes [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
As I live in the UK and so does Saddy, I have the upper hand and will get those tapes before you…HA,HA,HA, ner,ner,ner…ner!!!
I am planning a raiding party as we speak, and every detail is accounted for, it will be done with military precision by the top people in the UK, no stone will be left unturned in our meticulous planning and execution of this mission……BTW, does anybody know where he lives!?!
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Annoyed Squishy23rd August 2001 at 7:28 pm #55512AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b][QUOTE]Originally posted by X:
[B]WOW, SAD!! THAT’S AWESOME!!! THANX!!!BTW, does anybody know where he lives!?!
Mad Squishy of the clan McMadSquish.[/b]
i’m not telling…my bank account number is… [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
23rd August 2001 at 7:52 pm #55513AnonymousInactive
quote[quote]They started Season2 already in Britain??? Doh here in America we got a few more weeks to wait.[/quote]
Actually, they are just showing the last 6 or 7 episodes of the first season that they never showed the first time around.
24th August 2001 at 12:55 am #55514AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by Cat:
[b] Actually, they are just showing the last 6 or 7 episodes of the first season that they never showed the first time around.[/b]
Gawd, I actually thought it was season two. as the break between these eps and the last was several month’s.
Well maybe there is hope, once they have finished showing this load of rubbish, the writers can reflect on how crap it’s been and make the new season better.
Actually, I hope they don’t make a new season, because the first was so goddamn awful they shouldn’t be allowed to make a second series.
If there is only 6 or 7 eps left, then hopefully I can look forward to some decent Sci-fi fayre on a monday.
I don’t know why Sky seemed to have dropped EFC, now that was well written and like Lexx had a good idea of where it was going.
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Annoyed Squishy24th August 2001 at 1:33 am #55515AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by FX:
[b] any more kai cod scenes in the works? damn….[/b]
I blush to bring this up (cuz it reveals my mind cavorting in the gutter), but…
FX, et.al., didja happen to notice in “K-Town” (if that’s the codpiece epi) when Kai’s just whacked Mantrid, who is crouched on top of him (why oh why don’t I have a job like that???) – as Mantrid is falling back: his robe catches on the codpiece, Mikey makes a grab for it and just manages to keep the *equipment* covered. You have to slow-view it or pause at just the right moments.
Whoo, hot flash – gotta go.24th August 2001 at 2:20 am #55516AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
[b][b]exclusive![/b] For all you Xev fans out there, episode 4.07 (This Fridays episode) has a bath scene with a shot of Xev’s nipple! [/B]
Ok, this makes…what the 4th or 5th episode this season with a Xev shower scene.?
Does Stan not ever need a shower? Course probably not that too many people interested in seeing Stans white a$$.
On a somewhat different note. At what time in our future are we (as a collective race) going to decide on a common ‘outfit’ that everyone will wear. Or when will we as individuals decide on one particular set of clothes and make that the only pair of clothes we will ever wear again?
I understand the need for a ‘uniform’ for military/service orientated people. But even civilian (humanoid) types, whenever depecited, all seem to wear the same type of clothing.
Do clothes (and people) not need washing in the future?
{{shrug}}pointless as always
antiZero
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SOYLENT GRUEN IST MENSCHENFLEISCH24th August 2001 at 2:23 am #55517AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b] Well maybe there is hope, once they have finished showing this load of rubbish, the writers can reflect on how crap it’s been and make the new season better.
Actually, I hope they don’t make a new season, because the first was so goddamn awful they shouldn’t be allowed to make a second series.[/b]
Re: Andromeda
I thought I might have remembered reading somewhere that they were signed up for like 4 or 5 seasons. {{shrug}}Second season starts 1 Oct here in the US.
I think that even the worst sci-fi show is infinitely better than the best of whatever else is on the cathode-ray god.
antiZero
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SOYLENT GRUEN IST MENSCHENFLEISCH24th August 2001 at 2:34 am #55518AnonymousGuestSorry bout the name, PW issues [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
[b]I think that even the worst sci-fi show is infinitely better than the best of whatever else is on the cathode-ray god.[/b]
Yeap. Id certainly agree with that statement. Hence why I watch EFC and Andromeda [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]
24th August 2001 at 6:49 am #55519AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by *LexxLurker*:
[b]Sorry bout the name, PW issues [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img][b]I think that even the worst sci-fi show is infinitely better than the best of whatever else is on the cathode-ray god.[/b]
Yeap. Id certainly agree with that statement. Hence why I watch EFC and Andromeda [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]
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And I would agree with that, I’m still going to give Andromeda a chance (mainly because of the delicious Lexa Doig!!!), but I haven’t seen anything yet to make me think that it will improve.
I do love EFC though, that has the best written stories in the Sci-Fi universe, even on par with Lexx, but Lexx tends to be slightly more exciting.
Gene Roddenberry would have been proud of EFC, not so of Andromeda, and I don’t know if he would agree with Rick Berman’s interpretation of the Star Trek universe.
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Annoyed Squishy24th August 2001 at 7:33 am #55520AnonymousGuestDid you know Nigel Benett(Prince) was in EFC? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Had an episode where he starred as an aging marine with a vendetta against the Companions. Good episode shame he didnt get a chance to really shine in it tho.
hehe sorry to go OT but since most here are Gene Roddenbury fans.
Interesting lil fact: Paramount offered Gene two choices in 78-79.
1) Make Star Trek the Motion Picture
2) Make a new series called: Earth Final Conflict [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]Glad to see he chose 1. Imagine EFC in the 80s yecch [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Majel Barrett(?) made the show happen kinda as GR’s last wish. Taken from [url=http://www.efc.com]www.efc.com[/url]
Yeah EFC has had the best long term Arc outside Lexx. However recently with this final season its hard to tell if this was the planned ending to the series or if this season is more due to people quitting the show [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
PS Von Flores is far and away the best actor in syndicated TV imo. Sandoval is one of the best characters GR ever created.
Okay I promise not to mention EFC again [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
24th August 2001 at 7:49 am #55521AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by Aurora:
[b] I blush to bring this up (cuz it reveals my mind cavorting in the gutter), but…FX, et.al., didja happen to notice in “K-Town” (if that’s the codpiece epi) when Kai’s just whacked Mantrid, who is crouched on top of him (why oh why don’t I have a job like that???) – as Mantrid is falling back: his robe catches on the codpiece, Mikey makes a grab for it and just manages to keep the *equipment* covered. You have to slow-view it or pause at just the right moments.
Whoo, hot flash – gotta go.[/b]
oh yes aurora, welcome to the gutter [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] there were some quite..spirited…discussions on this in the older threads in the lexx episodes forum…i personally laughed quite maniacally the first time i saw the look on dieter’s face as he realizes kai’s cod is coming with him…and i wore out that particular segment of the tape…aleck, unfortunately, let us down on getting outtakes of that particular segment, but i believe the phrase was ” mikey did a quick leg pull and started laughing”…again welcome to the gutter, love fx, always ready to aid and abet moral turpitude [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
25th August 2001 at 6:01 am #55522AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by FX:
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oh yes aurora, welcome to the gutter [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] there were some quite..spirited…discussions on this in the older threads in the lexx episodes forum…i personally laughed quite maniacally the first time i saw the look on dieter’s face as he realizes kai’s cod is coming with him…and i wore out that particular segment of the tape…aleck, unfortunately, let us down on getting outtakes of that particular segment, but i believe the phrase was ” mikey did a quick leg pull and started laughing”…again welcome to the gutter, love fx, always ready to aid and abet moral turpitude [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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I am *home* (contented sigh).
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-Aurora-25th August 2001 at 6:45 am #55523AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by *LexxLurker*:
[b]Did you know Nigel Benett(Prince) was in EFC? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Had an episode where he starred as an aging marine with a vendetta against the Companions. Good episode shame he didnt get a chance to really shine in it tho.hehe sorry to go OT but since most here are Gene Roddenbury fans.
Interesting lil fact: Paramount offered Gene two choices in 78-79.
1) Make Star Trek the Motion Picture
2) Make a new series called: Earth Final Conflict [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/tongue.gif[/img]Glad to see he chose 1. Imagine EFC in the 80s yecch [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Majel Barrett(?) made the show happen kinda as GR’s last wish. Taken from [url=http://www.efc.com]www.efc.com[/url]
Yeah EFC has had the best long term Arc outside Lexx. However recently with this final season its hard to tell if this was the planned ending to the series or if this season is more due to people quitting the show [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
PS Von Flores is far and away the best actor in syndicated TV imo. Sandoval is one of the best characters GR ever created.
Okay I promise not to mention EFC again [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img][/b]
Wow, I never knew about the two choices Gene Roddenberry was given, that’s fascinating,if he had chosen EFC, then it’s likely the movies would never have got made and TNG, DS9 and Voyager may never have come about.
Thank god he chose the movie, because you’re quite right, EFC just would not have worked in the 80’s.
The technology that exists for EFC’s effects did not exist back then, and EFC is better for today’s FX.
I hope Von Flores appears in other things, he was excellent as the evil and double dealing Ronald Sandoval.
Has EFC finished for good now???
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Annoyed Squishy25th August 2001 at 12:54 pm #55524AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b] Has EFC finished for good now???
Squishy [/b]
I kind of doubt it since season 5 is supposed to start 6 October 2001 …in the US anyway.
antiZero
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SOYLENT GRUEN IST MENSCHENFLEISCH25th August 2001 at 2:23 pm #55525AnonymousGuestYeah this is the last season (Season5)
Liam, Zo’or, Da’an are all gone.
Zo’or will be back for a special 2 parter with Kevin Kilner(Boone)
Producers are being accussed by most fans as wanting to milk the last season soley for money since they are turning Jayne Heitmeiers character into a Lara Croft type resistance fighter.
The main characters in this season are the Atavii(Atavus singular). In Season2 and again in Season 4 it was explained that the Taelons had de-evolved severely in their time since changing from Kimera+mystery race to Atavus to Taelon. So the Atavii are extremely advanced and not like the Atavus that were in Season1 and 3 that were just Taelons disconnected from the Commonality.
So basically this season is the 2 Atavii trying to destroy the world. Apparantly fans have been petitioning Tribune Entertainment to hand the series over to Sci Fi channel before they screw it up. Personally I dont have an opinion Ive liked the series up until last seasons finale. So we’ll see how it goes this season.
Prolly more info than you wanted tho [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Forgot to explain that the Taelons and Jaridians were not all transformed, just those in the room during the finale where Liam dies.
Its presumed the Jaridians are extinct tho since they only had a few hours of life left when the finale ended.
The Taelons are confirmed by the producers to be back this season as well. But Zo’or was “changed into something else” and Da’an made into an Atavus.
[This message has been edited by LexxLurker (edited August 25, 2001).]
25th August 2001 at 6:10 pm #55526AnonymousGuestThanx for the info Lexxlurker, I’m glad that EFC will be around for another season, and as long as they have the same writers, I can’t see the show going bad.
I thought it was the last season with Liam dying, but I do like the idea of Jayne H being a Lara Croft type character,but Da’an and Zo’or gone is a bit of a shame.
Maybe those writers could move to Andromeda after EFC is finished to help with it’s dire scripts!!!
It’s moved to the Sci-Fi channel over here, so maybe the Sci-Fi channel will take an interest and continue with it.
BTW, is Sandoval still gonna be around?
Thanx again for the info, it brightened up my day knowing that it’s still around.
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Annoyed Squishy25th August 2001 at 11:29 pm #55527AnonymousGuestSandoval will be back, the writers and producers are *very* tightlipped about his character this season. He most likely will represent the remaining Taelons, though that doesent make sense to me. The only reason he was still there was because Humanity tried him and Da’an saved him. Also and this sucks. He never found out from Liam that he was Liams father. Im sure they will wrap that up this season.
After what they did to Sandoval this season (Brought his wife back to betray him, Humanity tried him for his crimes, Jaridians turned him into a “Terminator-like” machine,) and the list goes on and on. Id like to see him somehow redeem himself by saving Earth in his own death or something.
25th August 2001 at 11:56 pm #55528AnonymousGuestNoooooo, not Liam! He was soooo cute! Like a teddy-bear version of superman/galahad, truth, justice, and the human way!
But it’s better than what I thought before. I thought that last season was the [i]last[/i] season. Thank God!!! But Liam [i]can’t[/i] be GONE. Aaargh!
*goes off to sulk in a corner*
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spooooondead thing pie!
Much Madness is divinest Sense-
To a discerning Eye-
Much Sense-the starkest Madness-
‘Tis the Majority
In this, as All, prevail-
Assent-and you are sane-
Demur-you’re straightaway dangerous-
And handled with a Chain-
– Emily Dickinson26th August 2001 at 3:10 am #55529AnonymousGuest
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Originally posted by brainplague:
[b]Noooooo, not Liam! He was soooo cute! Like a teddy-bear version of superman/galahad, truth, justice, and the human way!But it’s better than what I thought before. I thought that last season was the [i]last[/i] season. Thank God!!! But Liam [i]can’t[/i] be GONE. Aaargh!
*goes off to sulk in a corner*
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These are my feelings as well, I thought when Boone went, that was that, then Liam comes along to save the day, although they should have used his powers more often.
Funny thing with EFC was that every ep seemed like a season finale, it was so dramatic in it’s endings, it left you convinced that each of the last few eps were the last in the season…it was that bloody good!!!
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