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Unless they have changed their minds; the musical ditty is from The Wizard of Oz; and The Wonderful Wizard of Oz; you know the words: sing along!
Follow the Yellow Brick Road. Follow the Yellow Brick Road.
Follow, follow, follow, follow,
Follow the Yellow Brick Road.
Follow the Yellow Brick, Follow the Yellow Brick,
Follow the Yellow Brick Road.We’re off to see the Wizard, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.
You’ll find he is a whiz of a Wiz! If ever a Wiz! there was.
If ever oh ever a Wiz! there was The Wizard of Oz is one because,
Because, because, because, because, because.
Because of the wonderful things he does.And even if it is another OZZIe song or another childhood song it’s just fun to sing it at the top of your lungs! 😯 😆
We’re off to see the Wizard. The Wonderful Wizard of OzWTF! It’s the R and T Show;if I was DE I’d find something else to do too. You don’t see Mrs. E on the boards do ya?
As my bro eloquently puts it “Screw that noise.”
Blech!
And the most lovely lady they’ve seen is the wife; oh the Same lady who drove moderate fans off the board and then said “forgit about it.”
She just the ultimate in grace and manners 🙄
There has to be a better show that doesn’t raise people to this level; well the higher they go, the harder they fall.
What a bad state of affairs; this bodes no good;
watch and learn my lovelies and you will see how fortunate you are that you are an ordinary person; with nothing attached to your name 😈
Mwhaaaaaaa!
And um, yeah, you know why many artists are called “starving artists”?
Anyone?
Yeah, they may follow their visions but they can’t sell them; even if they are ground-breaking the really good ones die young.
What’s that line: “Just because no one understands you doesn’t make you an artist.”
Yeah, enjoy the fame and the show for now, but a long cold 10 month winter is coming for you “fans”; some of you won’t survive.
Look “fans” these people you laud seriously and truly don’t give a rat’s ass about you; they are playing you for your viewing preference on Sunday nights and so they can live accordingly off you and by the same token look down their deviated septums at you.
That’s messed up; lecturing you about watching or not; their meal ticket.
The unwashed masses rule darling, they are constantly told they are ignorant, unimportant, insignificant, and too stupid to get a feckiin’ TV show built one regular man’s vision by people like you.
The answer is the same’ I don’t like blah blah and don’t incorporate into my life.
Ah, fulfilling prophecy right there, with our dollars the masses will not back this season.
Low ratings/and DVD soft sales; ya think you’ll get it through your thick heads THEN?
Well the circle as completes itself; all their crap spewed for
TOS fans when it started; now catches up and pervades their own fandom. Ya think by creating that bad cause then you would never pay a price? 😆 Ya, those asleep never question the causes they make and then get all huffy when the effect bites them in the ass AND they don’t see the connection; their role in it so they make more counter bad causes and thus the spiral begins; all the time denying their part in it all.The universe is impartial true but it is very strict; crap in, crap out, there may be a time delay to wait for the catalyst to bring the effect into our consciousness; but know all your choices good or bad will some day come into play.
That’s why peeps like me try really hard to not only create good karma (cause we know it will manifest) but we also sometimes have to apply a bitter medicine to others; you know… tough love, and get nasty, because well the brunt of what can happen if a person follows through with the questioned behavior; it’s gonna hurt a lot more.
But ultimately, it’s up to the person, and we must shut up and let it happen; all the while hoping they’ll get the lesson; hoping they won’t retaliate and create worse conditions for themselves; but ready to take that slap across the cheek (and offering the other as well) initially but then offering open hands and hearts to help the person off the ground when the universe knocks them on their ass.
And you won’t hear this lady say “I told you so.” I’ll just give them a hand up and brush them off,: whisper” it’s okay, now do you understand what i meant?” And then it’s off to another venue and another incredible fellow human traveler.
Ah, the irony….
*walks away whistling… “May the Circle be Unbroken”
The prob is I’m not totally into everything there enough to speak clearly and cleanly about it and well….. I’m so into a lot of different genres right now.
Sci-fi is and will remain my fave; but I mentioned on my blog the movie “The Departed”
Looooving The Dropkick Murphy’s song from the movie; makes my Irish heart go pitty-pat.
Love the line also when they talked about the Irish and Freud; that they can’t be psychoanalyzed 😆
Anyway, the world is full of interesting things to see and foresee and BSG which I used to love no longer does much for me; following another tune from another piper; someone easier to work with and a idea sharing relationship that is better and much more satisfying for both parties.
Eh, i leave the BSG makers and fans to wrap the remnants of their tattered show around them and try to keep at the cold winds of change and reality of mortality and happily jig to a new tune with an excellent piper.
I’m content and excited. 😀
I’m sorry but i just can’t join a new forum now, now that i have wrting of my own to peruse, revise, and follow and a blog as well AND a FT job.
But I love this pg; I hope you do not mind if a pull it out and point it out.
Tell me if you do not want the link here but it really makes you think about what sci-fi is, where it came from and where it is going now and where we hope to hell it will go; not the limits we have now.
Sci-fi potential is vast!
Your link sir…..http://scifiexplorers.eamped.com/about-this-forum-vf10.html
Thank you Skwirl; and um Misery MO may not be the best place to list as a location even though it might be true. 😉
For those of you interested the “magic couple” of Ron and Nancy… I mean Ron and Terry are team posting at sci-fi.com.
🙄 🙄 🙄
GO! GO now!
Me I would rather die then to post there again; those sci-fi Nazis!
I love my exile; thank you very much….
Riddle me thus…. old man….. when did sci-fi take a dip in ratings overall; after my banning or before…..hmmmm riddle me this as well… when did BSG start it’s slip; was that around my time with probs in MediaBlvd say 2.5 in the making.
And let us continue; when did your wife come on board and finally came to her own voice, 2.5 and slip. there are no accidents my friend. None.
Crazy? Darn tootin” but peel back layer on layer and watch the dawn break on Marblehead.
And can satisfied writers locked away in Hollywood bliss reach the core of a nation; or are we done with this class struggle. Creativity is not a trait of Hollywood writers; real emotion reserved only for those that profit from it.
The heart, the head and the body; just as we have it, our country has it as well. Let’s call The East say New York, Ma, the east Coast the brain of our country; the west Coast the body, the heart is in the middle. Symbiosis must occur between all parts to make it work effectively.
Concentrate too much on one the others break down.
I don’t like too much emphasis on any part of it.
Mrs. Dowl and i won’t get along because well….. because….. hmmm let this phrase help to to understand
“Once you accept the Universe as matter Expanding into Nothing that is Something; wearing stripes with plaids comes easy.”
It’s from a game I play.
AM I saying Mrs. Dowl is shallow; yes, I guess I am. Am I saying her husband Dowl is shallow; by default yes, yes i am.
Talking about topics, like chit chat between martinis; does not make you an expert on life; intellectual snobs do it all the time; what are they DOING about the state of humanity in our world; or are they like a majority of people on this all so beautiful planet buffeted by waves of impermanence and thus never reach the shore of true happiness; forever to wander from one crises to another from one external stimuli to the next or worse sitting in a state of heaven and disdaining those that do not have their blessings.
Sooner or later, may be, I hope I chant I rail that they both wake up to the sham of life they live; and that true happiness is not something given to them, or purchased, or awarded; it must be actively sought, it requires full all out effort; not a deadening of the senses though alcohol, but a willingness to embrace it all.
These are shallow motions children, shallow feelings of a couple that must play jealousy games to avoid true feelings that need to be expressed frequently and sincerely; and that need stims from a bottle and the mouths of others to validate, nay, inflate their own importance.
When, in reality, they are human, just as you, just as me. They have no real power, they are no less or more important than you or I. If you believe they are, you are lying to yourself, and you are lying to them.
We all blossom differently, we all have value, we all don’t get their spotlight, but the question is, do we really need or want it?
I will offer a simple thing to you; come to the Midwest; end of June, bring a tent, and camping gear….
Here is the link……
let us make the a sci-fi gathering not just a ST gathering.
I’ll be at the river, will you?
Oh there’s casino there now….. But I’m true camping; hopefully I’ll get my sister, bro and may be even my boss whose a sci-fi fantasy person (she writes about dragons galore) A tent, a sleeping bag, some vulcan ears, and I’m good to go.)
Come with us, we’ll talk sci-fi; Trek is the wormhole, the portal
but what lies beyond, ah……… come and see.
i’m not upset about the death of KT, hot shot pilot; we ALL knew that was coming since at least December. I’m more than PO’ed at the lame ass motherfrackin’ story that did it.
And the podcast’ pfft….. no planning is involved in this show anymore; no crafting of arcs, TRIVIA rules the podcasts.
Yeah, if they wrote the show; why not let the writers podcast it. But nooooo.
You know WHY Dowl obsessed about the show? Because he is frightened and trusts no one to fulfill his vision; a vision as empty as this show’s true emotional well. The cast and crew in RL might have mourned Katee but with that dialogue written here you’d never know it. Cripes, Ellen Tigh got a better send off.
Your writers can’t frackin’ write; so you leave it to actors, and editors and directors to fill it in.
“Don’t leave us Kateee fans.” Mrs. Dowl states.
Why not? You killed her so unless its a lamo excuse to bring her back as a Cylon/ Final Five/Being of Light/ she’s dead.
If that happens; if that is the patch you place on swirling this maelstrom you call new science fiction; you have gone ST on us again. “whoosh ” as they say…. and i don’t mean an airlock.
Rodenberry called; he wants you to mend fences with Braga and regain a partner.
That WAS all they have? That was the blowing their wad? It felt like a beer full of foam;
Someone has lost their way; the interesting part in the whole thing was Leoben was not leoben; they took 43 minutes to do that.
Beings of light/ final five here we come. 🙄
What a disservice; what a bungling job to so much potential…. and a slap in the face to Starbuck and to the actress that played her.
Pay off; they forgot to pay off the audience. Why make this a phenom/mandela and NOT tie it to Earth; or the race to Earth?
Look, I’m tired of the dance around; you can stretch it forever but did we get anything?
Your rocket just fizzled… it went straight and came back down because it’s empty; the whole thing tied up Kara’s mommy abuse but HOW was she special? Her destiny was to crack up in the atmos; unafraid of death. That’s it?
The well for ideas is a dry as a bone, folks. Nothing there.
Oh hun. ty you for stopping by; your avi scares the bejesuits outta me so… all is good with the world.
My blog is limited and small just the way I loove for it to be.
You can’t accuse me of writing for the masses; no thanks. I write when and what I want and they’ll torch me into crispies with all my little scribblies around me.
Can’t think of a better way to exit stage right!
I have no idea why peeps read this thread and whaa 😯 compete with nekkid sixes of any show? No way.
I’m enjoying my peace; I have a new movie to watch so I gotta go.
But you enjoy, okay?
All of you, life is for loving and living; go do it!
Dangit…. short stories; I should finish them some day…. I can get them started but finishing them…… ugh.
I have ideas that serenade to me like a pied piper in space but well I have to pay bills so all I can do is scribble and hope one day I can write the dang things. i get ideas down and they sit, beckoning to me every night, but i say to them ‘No, no, darlings; you are precious to me, but to no one else. And besides, it’s cold outside and you would blow away in the wind without me working.”
We both then have a good cry together (the ink bleeds) and then i go to sleep. 😥
Here is my spanking new blog-aria;
My Blogstream
" class="bbcode-link">My BlogstreamThat’s where I’ll post so we can let these fine people have their forum back.
Come on over if you have the time and ear for my ramblings and ravings!
And thanks Saddy and all sadgeezer for your patience with me.
Now returning you to your regular BSG forum all ready in progress..
I am shopping for a blog spot;so that this will no longer take up space here. I had one but it’s so full of teenagers, I decided no.
For those who have read my ramblings I thank you oh so much; for those who I’ve offended and take offense…. I am sorry.
I will now defer to the Mrs. since she and I cannot come to a reasonable solution without being catty. I so don’t want to go there; nor do i want to get bogged down with the infighting that seems so rampant on the “flagship”sci-fi BB at sci-fi.com.
We lost a fan recently; I didn’t know her or her love nor did i speak to her but if she was the lady with the legs in her avatar I knew something was up with her when i used to read the okay thread…
I does not matter if you believe me or not… there was something that made me stop and say what is up with this person….it happens just so and like that…. I knew this well when i started reading before i was banned from sci-fi in Sept or October….
It does not matter now….. I must bite my tongue on so many of these little heads-up from the “ether”I get to preserve the peace and to respect the woman of the man… was there anything i could do about it…no, except tell this fan to be extremely careful… but as I said i did not know her.
RIP and it is okay….I’ll chant for you to have strength and when the customary time of transition has lapse you may have strength enough to tell someone you do know that you’re at peace. Waiting time is usually 3-6 months; some can take up to a yr; others just don’t want to “come through.”
It is best to create a blog space that only those who WISH to read can do so without taking Sad’s bandwidth.
My last post will cotain my new blog place.
Peace is what is needed,
N.
Boy was I off…. 1.4 try 1.2….. I guess I shot too high. I guess i had injected my hope of better which eskews numbers, but numbers aren’t my bag really.
OOOH I was wrong….. Yeah that happens a lot when I’m not attached to something or too attached and let that cloud and crowd me….. *Note to self…… detach detach DETACH!”*
I watched that movie Tsotsi; talk about a tear jerker in parts; they took a totally despicable punk and made him human… I have hopes that miracles still can happen even in our world…..
May be we limit ourselves with fear; fear of what others might say of us, fear of ridicule, fear of losing all we held dear.
Sweetums, all that you fear has already happened to me, all of this and yet I can get up in the morning, appreciate beauty, and function.
Do I fear I will be ostracized again, what others say of me, and being ridiculed, and losing all I hold dear now. No…. I have a seeking spirit and an open heart….. it will be painful but not insumountable….. what you call a failure; I call unfinished. What you call losing, I call a redirection and focusing moment.
The difference is appreciation and reverence for what i have and not a wish for what I don’t have. I may not be able to jet off to Vegas, but I’m comfortable in my little place, i may not have material goods but i have friends and family I think the world of.
Sure everyone can strive for better or more; but ask yourself if it neccessary or even vital for you; will it bring you momentary pleasure or lasting value.
Peace…..
meanwhile, while yous guys sass each other ad nauseum about yea or nay of the current writing of BSG I’m gonna watch movies.
I’t snowed 4 inches today so snow day! I’m watching the movie “Reds”I can’t stand Warren Beatty but i heard it was good so I’m giving it a look-see. it’s okay so far….. I also got Closer which is supposed to be good and a Nickie Cage flick. I also want to finish watching the Westminster kennel show; they are sooo cute but they love poodles! My bro and wifey have 2 minature greyhounds that are high energy but adorable so i rooted for them last night but no luck.
I must also working on funding for a possible return to the hallowed halls of learning next fall; I could be working for a long standing dream of mine so keep your fingers crossed!
Writing…. erm…. got no time besides the stories are buried now and not safe to dust off until this planning for the season 4 and movie are cemented; then i can put them out. Then there will be no unethical borrowing.
Take care all and have a Happy Day for love; big and little; love as an emotion can make or break us; love as a way of life is the best we can aspire to. Love is, as most universally understood words are,at its most powerful as a verb; it implies action.
Ask yourself, what is your capacity for love on this day. Is it limited to a few people, a nation, a certain agenda or belief; or can you connect with it all. We either learn to love and harmonize or we destroy each other. I’m willing to compromise to get back on track.
Can you?
Congrats on the battle for a 4 th season; Somehow i don’t believe it was NOT a battle for it took too long to decide about the season and of course a delay till June filming when normally they would be in the studio in March or April.
And give me 13 tight eps over 20 any day of the week.
The gloat over getting a fourth shouldn’t be a gloat really; you will need the margins and the marginal fans now instead of that ever present childish crap of if you don’t like it don’t watch it. Are we done bandying THAT around?
SO let’s get working on unity; i refuse to march under the extremes of love or hate battlestar; I will not shuffle my feet to the drum currently rat tatting in shippers and the noobies.
i want a good story; no more love quandrangles, no more Helo the hero because some one thinks he’s hawt in influencing circles; that’s the beginning of the end if you ask me.
Story over character development now.
Where would I go from this mess to back to story.
Yeah, try baltar but he’s gonna get off; they may six Starbuck but they’ll let him off. if you’re gonna let him off at least make it interesting.
Did I like the Woman King…. no I’d rate it better than Black Market and that one with standoff in cloud Nine and definitely better than Bulldog but it still doesn’t constitute good BSG.
Why i didn’t like it, i didn’t like Athena and her scrape the bottom of the barrel reasoning “hate the Sagittarions and may be peeps will leave me be; scum…. she’s scum but typical.
racism is ugly to watch; hell any ism is ugly to watch; it disgusts me. That’s why exile is best so that quietly I don’t have to listen to the ignorance and hubris that spews from other’s mouths if i chose.
Hubris, Dowl you are wearing it like a badge. You were cocky and proud before, and then what happened? Yeah….. do you really want that to happen again and again until it crushes you. yeah you “writing marriage partner dumped you’ you lost your real marriage, hmmmmm…then a string of cancellations and short stints before you regain your footing here… now you’re going for hubris again. Are you that idiotic? 🙄 Can you see that pattern in your life?
may be the hiatus was needed before season 3
Oh and Dowl nice penguin imitation… the wife needed to adjust the tie though because you probably pull at it when coralled into wearing one;you are sensitive around the nape you feel confined with ties; anything around the neck that’s why ties are eskewed on you; or tickling there is fun 😉 listen closely left ear. 😈
Ahhhhh,. finally an interesting read…. I borrowed it from mediablvd…
I enjoyed it…. I hope you do too.
http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/battlestar-galactica
There are many ways to speak of alternate thinking and I am by far not the best there is…. but union, community is so important. Unfortunately, once given power, the sharing becomes a contest of wills, and as spoken in this article manipulation springs up.
Now some could label me as a manipulator, some as “crazy” or insane…. but as the this site posits… what is sanity? Is it conforming to one way of thinking or feeling. What is manipulation and can it be distinguished from sharing….
I think so…. Manipulation involves control of thoughts or actions of others for the purpose of gaining something: control or power;
sharing is suggesting without an expected outcome where there is no gain really.I did these “crazy” things not to control because I’ve gained nothing and in fact was ostracized and accused of an intent that is not true and repulsive to me.
Thoughts and dreams come to me; they have since i was young…
For example, before Anna Nicole Smith died I’d say 2 weeks ago I had a dream i was sitting in front of a white vanity mirror; and Marilyn Monroe suddenly appeared and stood in back of me but had no reflection; she was a young Marilyn or at her peak I’d say; before drugs and alcohol ravaged her; she leaned over and whispered something in my left ear but I woke up before i could hear it clearly but it had to do with fame… fame kills or beauty kills or both I think . I did not want to hear it; I did not want her to be near me; it frightened me. I think I said “NO!” and woke up.
You can believe me or not… I have to live this way…. not you and when i decided to try to share…. well I knew I would have the doubts i have now about my motive and whether or not i should speak out at all…
I’m beginning to think silence is my best defence; but my heart aches because i know that is a cowardly thing to do. Self-preservation vs. helping others possibly to understand.
And if the wish is not to understand; do I continue or just respect that wish if the wish to not understand comes from not the person you’ve tried to share with but instead their loving other.
I do not wish to go against her wishes; I do not want this pain that I have caused to her to remain. I truly wish no harm to come but I cannot shut off what i see.
So it is best now to respect her wishes and not share any longer with this link; he has found others and others less threatening to his love;
but I must say beware. Do not mix your beliefs or you will be ineffective. DO NOT be the “cafeteria Catholic” as they say or cafeteria believer or you are vulnerable to manipulation and if lead wrongly YOU will suffer;
along with those that lead you there.that I know is true.
And BTW, R you need to change the way you do podcasts.
I mean they were okay MEH until now. Things change boy, you gotta keep moving forward.
I know it’s supposed to tell us how the sausage is made but hell Mary in a basket… YOU don’t even know what’s going on so you sputter through it drunk.
Hand that bad boy mike off to someone who knows what the hell is going on with that ep.
Or at least make in interesting… and, no, the wife really doesn’t make it that interesting ’cause she’ll slobber over Tahmoh or ask annoying questions or nag.
But she does have bright moments, to be fair…. the kittens were cute ’cause i like animals and the salt line insight was good. She shines when she speaks from her intelligence and her knowledge; pulling tidbits of interest THAT way. The daily personal life stuff we don’t need.
If I was podcasting; I’d ask her about something relevant from the ep like bad doctors; or and ism like racism; she seems to have knowledge of that, but you need to fill the void of eps you don’t know what’s going on with something… in times like that tangents may be good.
Or hand the podcasts to Eick if he edited or Eddie if he directed it or someone else
and you go write…. something better then what we’ve been seeing I hope.
1.4- 1.6 this week.
I know MAJOR faux pas but I’m going to talk about a movie not BSG related 😉 not even sci-fi but it is on my mind.
It’s called The March of the Penguins….
okay before the eye-rolling and the sputtering of that’s not sci-fi that’s stoopid…. read me out.
We, as much as we claim are different and “higher” than animals but are we really. Most of our behavior is so animal-like and driven by that nature and when i come across a movie that points this out so beautifully I am stunned.
These penguins live in the most formidable reaches of our world; they go to great lengths to spawn where they are born like the salmon. They walk 70 or more miles to do so….
But it is not that that silences me…. it’s when the males take the egg onto their feet and wait out the winter in Antarctica where winds blow up to 100 miles per hr and the temp is easily way below what we “superior humans” can stand. They do this without food and only by huddling in the shelter of its own kind do they and their offspring survive. The form a large body of bodies and rotate themselves through the center which is the warmest (it can be up to 60 degrees)
What is the lesson here? Do we need a “winter” of some sort to unify us, “the superior being” so that we work as one.
Sure the Cylons have that to a degree but even they have become fractional and soft. The Colonials have worried more about the mating season than the threat.
ANd how would the species survive if there are a few who would not take their turn in the cold to give a chance to others to be in the middle.
If humans as we are now, tried this, many would die… because they would refuse to do their part; to take the time out of the limelight and let others have a turn.
Or if suddenly this group split; many would die. the survival cannot be assured… the continuation of the species could not be guaranteed.
Sacrifice is needed to move forward; how far is a person willing to go ensure survival; how far will these BSG writers and crew and actors go to ensure survival of their show?
The days of relying on a white chargers filled with new fans for the show is over. It is time to heal rifts and band together; make those in the hub of it all move to the outside and take some harsh winds in order for it all to survive for all fans, whether they say okay, nay, or casually watch.
The time for splitting the fanbase up through short-sighted and emotionally tinged thinking must end and end now.
Or no matter how long the hiatus…. there will be few fans who will remain.
Decisions shouldn’t be based on likes and dislikes of the writers and their spouses… we all know Helo and Sharon live because you know who and his wife like them as people; regardless of story.
That’s fine…. we get it….. you like them….. but if you don’t back it up with decent story telling it’s silly and panders to you; that’s not sacrifice… that’s wanting to sit in the middle all the time and not do your part for the story.
Be true to the story…. be respectful of the whole group of fans…
Respect…huh. New concept I guess. I know I didn’t get it personally… which would explain why any ideas i shared didn’t quite fly; well may be if i was given respect they might have; the ideas given are neutral ;neither good nor bad; but because of the way it panned out…. the way i was treated they became tainted.
What i do know is that some delusions are flying for the protection of some egos…. let me state this…. I don’t write the show… I don’t want to write for the show…. I didn’t want to write for the show. Sure I put input in it but I don’t run the show. So instead of pointing that finger of blame at me which people are wont to do…. the decisions were not mine what goes in, what stays in, what is cut. That would be you. Your timing sucks; your wife is distracting you from writing a good story and you are a whiny baby trying to blame someone for you shortness of sight.
Grow up… you have to take your time out of the middle where its nice and cushy and be buffeted by the cold sometimes.
And hopefully you will be stronger for it; no one grows through lack of challenges… an easy life doesn’t polish your character.
And what have you to complain of R anyway? You’re like life is sooo tough…. I mean a wife that loves you deeply, great and healthy kids, a show that is, on the skids for your choices as of late, but you’ve got another season and a movie….
So whining should not be a part of you when things get a little tough and rough…. unless you see all of what you have as unnourishing to your spirit… which it is…. but only you can resolve that.
Peace….
“Sigh”
To explain would be complex and not worth my effort so let’s make this short.
Good-bye Dowl and wife; and good luck…
NMRK
MK
I don’t understand; really… the black and white of this…. the total divisiveness of this fanbase in which the skiffy board is only a portion of…..
It’s that okay and nay thing, which is so childish it’s ridiculous; is anything ever been or truly black and white, wrong or right, good or evil? I would say no, and the fact this show banks on it; those gray areas yet when it comes to “honest” criticism the true hypocrisy shows its colors.
It has to be great and touted as so or you get the tongue lashing of the okay kids or you have to dump on it ir hear the backlash of the anti- BSG?
For cripes sake! Grow up! I can like or dislike or bash or not bash any frigging part of this show at any friggin’ time i want ’cause I live in a free country or what is supposed to be free.
Only idiots see marginally; only incompetents are short sighted.
Think of it this way; sci-fi already slapped hands for ratings; I mean there aren’t even starting to film until June which leaves either an fall or Jan premiere of a season 4 which comes to the 10 month spread. i 2 hr movie may or may not keep interest but it’s a gamble.
So, enjoy what there is ….you may not see much of BSG for quite a while….after March 23 of the yr.
it may not be all bad, no more ratings or false ratings reported anymore.
No more henpecked husband reports…. 😈 “Put that out!’
One friggin’ cig….. 🙄 and cigs picked by her no less…. why? for a control issue I guess…
No one tells me when to smoke or not; and tries to make me feel bad about smoking… why don’t you stop driving a car or buying products too so that there is no air pollution; send kids out with full protective masks…..
Why not the lovey approach…. “I don’t want you to smoke ’cause me and the kids want you around a long time and healthy.”
Hullo? isn’t that better than guilt?
Yeesh! 🙄
off topic to the extreme…. but whaaaa 😥 I have to go to non-sci-fi to get entertainment that isn’t horror based or rote sci-fi or a soapy wash…..
I just watched The Guardian….. great film…. now it’s the “officer and a gentleman feel” *yawn* but it has some kicking ass action sequences in it…. kinda military fare meets “The Perfect Storm”
I’m not big on Costner and Ashton K but it was entertaining enough… which got me thinking….. why not a save in space? Hmmmm?
I know been done and they have this whole new audience that LOOVE getting soapy and the complexity of characters; and i must be a dolt for not getting it.
Oh….. I “get” it…..
but it is still boring.
This stuff that belongs exactly where it was shot, in a bar or in a beauty salon…. not on sci-fi.
I mean what’s not to love; a “sensitive” Lee falling to pieces over a wacko chick with issues from Mommy, a dead ex-fiancee, a failed marriage, and is a part of every mission Galactica does but decides to keep his devoted but cuckoled wife and move on just as she decides to keep her convenient toyman but Lee and Kara will always have NC and those “steamy hot looks and memories?”
Yeah *checks off the list* I get it…..
This is character? This is the pinnacle of character-driven drama? 🙄 OOOkay…..
I can truly say there is character and there is character…..
Or…. high character and low character….. following your head and discipline or your emotions like loooove and your nads….
As the movie I previously mentioned says :their swimmers say their motto is “So someone may live.” I would say if the code of ethics were applied to this; something noble ….they might of written something well.
What am i saying? Ethics, nobility? This is sci-fi channel and these are execs that have their own code…. and ethics and nobility don’t sell to today’s audience….
Which haunts me actually….
Are we worth saving? Is this show worth saving? Are these characters worth saving?
I really wonder…..
Oh and BTW, if you, as someone who could, are going to remake something interesting… “7 faces of Dr. Lao… a childhood fav of mine… the librafy had a copy so I’ll be enjoying this shortly again…..think of what modern techniques could do with this!
Oh and some of best creative minds and thoughts are from those “Off the Skiffy BSG board”
For example, when i get sad about the “state of current galactica” I zip on over to the Golden Shower Award and frackheads because they are HILARIOUS!
Link to a thread a skiffy…..
http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2261274
and the Golden Showers website…..
It’s irreverent, noncensored tumbles into creativity!
http://www.goldenshowerawards.com/
I hope to remember to vote!
Well , I was too low on this rating; eh live and learn.
I didn’t like the ep so i went low but hell, if people want to watch crappy looove stories instead of sci-fi more power to them.
Those fans on Skiffy don’t know what the hell they want; it’s like watching an episode of MTV; what are the majority of their ages now; 18 going on 5?
“The ratings are up; take that you TROLLS!”
My response?
“Isn’t it time for a diaper change?”
They may rave about one minor uptick in ratings but think about your “core audience” now; these are college kids who can’t stick with anything long enough to make it work out; you think they’ll stick with this show?
😆 😆 😆
The interesting no. is the next numbers; after the Superbowl
with a week ep and after the shippy whitewash.But as long as you have these factions you will not have the huge numbers once made and these rating roller coasters will continue.
The kicker is if “Enterprise” can draw numbers; that’ gotta hurt.
But sure there is a Season 4
the question is ….. is it worth watching?
So on this season 4 threshold we sit and I’ll reminisce about BSG
by playing “I miss”
I miss…… The “Risk” board eps…..
I miss……the humanity vs. inhumanity questions
I miss true heroism…. not oddly placed Helo acts; Helo from before on Caprica sacrificing himself and fighting toasters.
I miss…..crafted eps…..
I miss the pull up or pull out of “miracles” I mean beyond the Eye of Jupiter “we are at the same place at the same time….”
I mean like the Leoben knowing more of Starbuck than she knew herself; Baltar choosing the right spot exactly in “Hand of God”
The self-reflection after Cain lambasted Adama for a sloppy command.
I miss when the Cylons were scary and seemingly omniscient and omnipotent.
And finally I’d say to these noobs:
” I’m really sad that you weren’t here when this whole thing started; when it was all fresh and new.
“prhaps then you would really understand how disappointing and dissapointed in this season we are….
and how rehashing Season 1 and 2 in micro is not only heartbreaking to those who have been watching since the mini but annoying; although it’s all new and great to you.”
I feel ageism in BSG fandom is playing a role; we are being replaced by younger fans who will be happy with rehashed plot ideas.
Tragic…. really tragic…. it has come to this. 🙁
Dun dun dun…..
😯
You thought I was going to say something of import?
BWhaaaaaaa!
I just wanted to reiterate that people who don’t practice a belief system should not loosely throw it around.
Ehem….. the OM of the children.
Did you know bright one you hurt their future by uttering which is a slap in the Buddhas of the Ten Directions faces?
I’m staying away from you man; you are calling down some really unpleasant stuff and well hurting these childrens’ lives as well.
Not my problemo though; I feel pity but I didn’t do it.
YOU have to make amends; not me; YOU will have regret; not me.
It’s beyond me; may be next time you’ll listen less to your ego and more to others who see a little more clearly.
Eh, live and learn, the lessons will come fast and furious. You screw up, well, it’s not going to be Easy Street for you for a long time.
You’ll learn the diference between transient power or authentic power; between happiness in the now or authentic happiness . Between good friends and evil friends.
You will be asked to choose.
Choose wisely, friend, it will determine your next steps.
“B” is for bad; as in bad story line…. I do hope they have this quandrangle resolved; well it will be because they’ll be getting rid of one of them.
Thank you for that….
And well the pacing was slightly better; more action but truly it did jump around a bit much.
No more shaky camera. we went to shaky story.
C’mon, man what happened to the BSG that got you awards; it won’t be this season; if critics give you anything; they should have their heads examined.
The A Story was better but then it went into that whole water thing which was weird and well really didn’t push it forward much.
this ep; same as before 1.4 0r more 1.2-1.4
I’m enjoying Dresden though; and now I’m back to watch a superior movie albeit children’s fare.
The Wallace and Grommit: Curse of the Were- Rabbit; that at least has some drama to it with a tolerable romantic story.
I’ve been seeing Indianapolis wherever I go; in literature, at work, etc….. hmmmmmm… I wonder.
Well it’s time to be verwy quiet; shhhhhhh……
Naw, I’m just bored so I’ll be not doing internet for a while….
Will i watch the rest….. who knows?
I’d rather be reading Proulx’s the Shipping News; which BTW is perfect title for those that loooove all this loooove…
A little is fine; a lot is stupid for sci-fi. With Eick “rebuliding the B woman” (I’m telling you it’s a mistake…. you’ll lose money AND credibility)that leaves lover boy there and his toy.
More pottie casts about Tahmoh and about Anders sweating;
I’m in rapture about that… 🙄
I know why I post; why do you read?
May be all is not lost; my friend has a writing prof she has coffee with and wants to know if I want to submit a sample for his perusal….. my knee-jerk reaction is absolutely positively no;
but….. that might be a bit hasty. If’ he’s connected with the workshop that many are getting published through….
Damn… I want to write a novel but I had aspirations of it being like a fund your own book type that your friends read; small time; I hate the thought of my thoughts for public view. Saddy’s is fine and great for this.
Damn.
oh well. If I get to it fine, if not…. life rolls onward.
mandara is NOT mandela; mandara is a sanskrit term I believe; from blossoms of a flower in Buddha heaven; not a verse of enlightenment; get that straight.
1.4 eh….so? I listened to the podcast 🙄 why… I don’t know; waiting for laundry to dry.
It’s seems incredible to me that you’d want Starbuck to reinjure a leg when you did that before. Remember? DO you remember season 1 at all?
And what’s with sweaty references of men; for gods sake.
Wake up and smell the bad scotch; your ship is going down in flames! In fact, it’s fitting… blah scotch for a blah episode
And you are still pushing shippers. I just held my head and groaned when I listened to this; the wasted potential;
and good advice…. you don’t even listen to yourself! baby neck snapping again; AAAAHHHHHH! Are you trying to kill your show?
I swear you’re trying to kill your show.
What was the line; well less is more; all that anders/lee thing could have been clipped.
Here’s a bright idea; let someone else do the work for a change; if all you are going to do is rehash what happened in season 1; let someone else take a crack at it.
Your military writers, bless the poor souls, tried to change it up; but how can you change up spmething that is basically the same time and time again?
You’re hoping a lot of this is slipping under the audiences’ dradis; um…. wrong assumption to make; the answer is the slipping in ratings.
What we have here is what i feared would happen; too insular thinking; taking the praises of only a few and thinking every thing is okay…. no it’s not okay, far from okay.
Bless your little lady’s heart, but this show is not about the drool meter of a sweaty Anders as much as you’ve tried to please her.
If you please her; you’ll lose your show and that’s a fact; it’s in the wind…. can you not hear it?
Sure you can cruise this into syndication but at what price? “Oh, battlestar, that was a good show than it got all mushy and soapy and I stopped watching it.”
walk away Dowl; walk away and do something else.
The bright spot; not the show but this!
http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2261277
This is funny; that’d sad…… truly a sad day when the status of the dog and his escapades is more entertaining than the show itself. May be they should try the Jake saving Hera from the airlock angle kinda like Lassie or something; I mean they have that shipper crap; why not Leave it to Beaver too. 🙄
Yeesh Moore is kindy pasty and unkempt in the morning isn’t he; and peach? Blech! For a guy with a pool and living in Cali he doesn’t get a lot of sun. You have a portable; go outside and write for cripes sake!
And what’s up with the ceramic Buddha on the kitchen countertop. That’s akin to the plastic Jesus on your dashboard; effective. Yeah, if you still belief in fairy tales, that lightening comes from an angry God or that you have no control over your destiny…. That’s ridiculous; not the ratings which are fact….
it’s for children who tell themselves that there are no such things as monsters but still check their closets faithfully before sleeping.
A piece of plastic or ceramic won’t save your bacon … no strike that….in truth that varies on a few factors…. which
I won’t go into. 😛
Now for the eye of Jupiter. Iwas looking at my Hubble calendar for Jan and realized….
does this look
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:gAWE6yagj_CuvM:http://mil.ccc.cccd.edu/classes/astro100/1.jpg
like the Eye of Jupiter they reference? If so this is the Helix Nebula in our neighborhood; like 690,000 light ys. (ooh 69 in so many ways) away.
Hooray! an actually natural occurring phenom!
i guess this should be a general movie thread; I watched The Illusionist oh last Thursaday; a nice little love story with a twist. I’m not a huge fan of Ed Norton; but he was tolerable as Eisenstein; the conjuror.
I was entertained though, surprisingly by The Dresden Files; may be because it is very new; may I’ll get BSG multi-season syndrome
BSGMSS for any show.
ep ? what was its #?
better; but Dresden was better.
+++++
the Cylon battle was actually interesting; like the 1/2 Cylon thing
The Athena shooting was good;
The apartment painting connection…. interesting
——-
The Helo Athena moment was a smidge too long.
The Starbuck/ Dualla scene….. ditto
The 5 revealed… vague
the boxing of Deanna; silly
the whole eye scenario; vague
but…better in more story to watch.
WTH is all the bugaboo about cancelling it? They will not renew until Jan 21-29; no matter if Season 3 tanks or not.
The kicker is whether season 4 would be the last of it.
I say, even though there is not currently a good replacement, yeah, I’d tell them 4 is the last season
For 2 reasons;
1.) The attention deficit storytelling would have to end. Look, we, as fans. have lovingly invited you into our homes for 3 yrs now; sit the hel! down and tell us a story; stop running around the room; SIT DOWN and think about what you’re doing.
2.)The serial has been lost in the serialized drama; sacrificed on the altar of a new audience; and higher ratings. So. I’ll even feed ya…..
MK goes
to her nearly bare cupboard; grabs a pack of variety cereal boxes (you know the ones with indie servings)and then plops a gallon of milk and the cereal boxes in front of Dowl, Big D, and Stern of Skiffy.
“They’ll be no fighting over the Sugar Smacks or Frosted Flakes< will there boys?
Yeah, all this stand alone stuff doesn’t allow for development of ideas; you sacrificed the story for character development which you really didn’t develop that much. It’s pretty much like preferring Capt. Crunch over Cheerios; but both have the same amount of ingredients, and nourish you to a point; but one will burn off faster.
The story needs work; not the sugar coating of acting or CGI.
I cannot believe people still read this pile of horse apples.
C’mon! that corny story of the movie is your life (but they did use this in the book) If it were true where’s my beachhouse; my Benz and my Hummer…. I know it doesn’t do much for that inner growth; but it’d sure make me feel better 😆
I kept singing that hokey “You Don’t Have to Be A Star, Baby (To Be In My Show) after I posted that; c’mon I can get so “serious” and it’s absolutely goofball! smileys just can’t catch that in internet chatter.
The reason for the day…..
While all of you were watching the re-running of BSG teenage angst (or Season 3.0) I was at a Martin Luther King Jr. event.
So I decided to share some lines from a humanist instead of ratings crud and this constant debating of cancellation or no.
The more I think on it; the more it becomes incrediblly clear to me that my output to Moore and company was and is a waste of time.
They don’t “get it”.
Skiffy doesn’t “get” it.
It’s not about ratings, or ass-kissing or trolling so prevalent on the board now. It’s not about shippers, or Iratica, or whatever.
It’s about being human and the respect we all deserve by being HUMAN! It’s going back to basic 101; first you MUST dialogue; then you can DEBATE;
this is about unifying; not defense; this is not about winning or losing because if it is…
WE ALL WILL LOSE!
Common ground is neccessary right now in this fandom; grassroots unity; from the bottom up.
Why is the Jake movement strong? It’s not debate worthy; it’s a small detail built on a universal love of a dog.
You see Dowl, you tried to move this top down; doesn’t work.
I’m disappointed in you because you didn’t respect me as a person but well an MLK said ” Forgiveness is not an occasional act; it is a permanent attitude.”
I won’t contribute anymore of my ideas unless it’s via internet but I refuse to hold this pain any longer; I forgive you Dowl for not treating me like a human being and maligning me and letting others also malign me. May be one day a few years from now you will be ready to dialogue but not now.
I am deeply sorry fro maligning you and you wife in this thread. I was angry and hurt. I hope you may also forgive me as I have forgiven you.
Also from MLK; “You don’t have to see the whole staricase; just take the first step.”
And, “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter.”
And finally, “Life’s most persistent and urgent question is, What are you doing for others? Do not say you will do it ‘ someday’; NOW is the time. Do not say ‘someone’ will do it; YOU are the one.”
These “are MY peeps” Dowl; I feel more at home reading Emerson and other transcendentalists than I felt trying to communicate with you.
But I tried dialogue… and I failed….. may be it was me… may be it was you… may be a little of both.
I have hope that in the future we may try again and be successfull.
Until then …..peace to you and all of BSG, Skiffy and their families.
and well, a little light reading one of my fave essays from Emerson called “Nature”
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/emerson/nature-emerson-a.html#Chapter%20I
Just a little personal note; the sis in law had her surgery and is cancer free; I diidn’t have to go to Cali (whopee!) and my Mom and sis are now there visiting my bro near San Fran and life is good with the world (my Mom never flew before).
All of you have a good week; i have to help set up a Dr. Martin Luther King exhibit tomorrow; so no BSG marathon for me; oh well 😉
And so did you purchase the Playboy of Helfer? it’s her body, her choice. In general though; skin magazines and porn objectifies women; and skiffy advertises that….. hmmm you gotta wonder.
Hell; what am I saying! We are objects to them; a ratings number, a market share…. none of us are real to them; gritty human drama; how can you compose human drama if you don’t act well… human!
We use a lot of ingenuous ways to escape from pain. Some drink or do drugs, some eat too much, some exercise too much… some work too much, some try to please in order to manipulate…. some gossip to avert the finger from them; some judge.
It all comes down to not wanting to do the inside work it takes to grow… to ask of oneself how can I be a better human being; how can I gently but correctly look back on what I have done in my life and make changes for my betterment and thus the betterment of all?
If we refuse to do this inner work, we are wasting our time on Earth; we will continue to look outside of ourselves for answers; continue to try using hard power instead of soft; continually be at war with other people and other nations until someone pushes a button and we’re all done.
Do you want this? Do you want your children to grow old here on this rock? Then do the work that needs to be done first; the inner work! That’s why you are here; not to gawk at a woman you’ll never touch; not to fight with other posters on a board…. etc….
Well, time for me to “walk my talk” so I’ll be leaving for a while to this some inner world work….
I hope you do the same.
I leave you with my ruler of success… no piece of metal… no accolades from others…. from Emerson
“To laugh often and much;
To win the respect of intelligent people
and the affection of children;To earn the appreciation of honest critics
and endure the betrayal of false friends;To appreciate beauty;
To find the best in others;To leave the world a bit better, whether by
a healthy child, a garden patch
or a redeemed social condition;To know even one life has breathed
easier because you have lived;This is to have succeeded. ”
– Ralph Waldo Emerson“Sighs heavily”
Why is this still here?
Why do you read it; I’m hoping you are just clicking it on and realizing the mistake you made; get out of this as soon as possible and look at the other offerings this board has.
Still here?
The current outlook is calm….. which is good if you want to remain status quo and not lose ground…. but not so good to gain ground.
The Dresden Files (don’t tell Skiffy) may have some life but they’ll spin it hard as the “best new show” on TV to be followed by “the best show on TV” 🙄
The fallout will be …. some new viewers; some lost viewers; even.
No huge surges of people tuning in….
1.4-1.6 and that’s generous.
Back to Dresden…. of course at Skiffy (bless their good old boy’s club’s heart) it has to be male to have power 😳 but i see it was set up with the books.
I think the hilarity and the irony of this is that the lead in gets better ratings than the incumbent show; after all the bellyaching about Who’s rating bringing them down.
And the new surge and change in the show touched on in the Chicago Trib article….. um I feel it’s a bluff and they’re bluffing… they said the same if this season and look at how dismal it came out so far in tone and viewers.
I’d show the second part of this ep… and then scrap the rest or “cherry pick” the better eps….
The “cherry picking” of one fan over another I hope has come to an end….
People whose life condition is low will turn on others “enemies’ perceived and “real”. When you remove those perceived “threats” they will turn on “friends”. No amount of telling someone to ‘abide by rules, be good to each other, be kind to each other, don’t flame each other, helps in a low life condition.
It’s like they are dropped in a pit… they will step on each other to get out.
It’s a sign of the times; you must understand it; empathize with it and those caught in it….
but you don’t have to live there.
Equality and tolerance is key…. to have expectations that are real of people; not an idyllic dream land.
Detachment is also key… it saves your feelings from tearing you to pieces.
You put in your piece; you walk away and let it go where it needs to go without attachment to outcome.
I’m sorry Dowl about your wife’s life lesson; her thread expectations were unrealistic. Motivating people but not manipulating them is hard. And on a board, nigh impossible.
I do think starting a new board is not an answer for you until you resolve your issues here and now. Do you want what is real or ideal; do you want true communication or do you just want a community which may or not be “real” Are you prepared for a big bang opening but a drop off; like a supernova; because this is your karma to burn hot and fast for a while but then burn out.
Or do you want to change this… something slow, and steady, but lasting? Do you want nose bleed peaks dropping into cavernous valleys or gently sloping hills in this life.
The choice is yours.
And BTW, don’t blame others for what you laid the groundwork for… to blame TOS’ers for hate and driving the lady away is silly and juvenile… they have their wild ones but not to the extent you want to believe…. no this imploded within…. I’m sorry but the little lady must realize her hand in this… her thread is her enviroment and it is is a reflection of the best and worse that she holds inside. The sooner she accepts this, learns from it, the more quickly she can move on.
Sorry, guys……
you all have a wonderful evening….
For those of you that I know cannot stand my posts; then help me and help yourself. Please contact Saddy and have him remove this thread… from this forum.
I long to blog away in some little corner of the web with just a few dust bunnies and thoughts.
I hope to do it here; to blog so that this drivel will only be seen by those who really want to read it and not subject others to this.
We have so much inherent potential as a human species; but we cannot change others; no matter how many ways we try nor can we run from ourselves and our life lessons…. I’ve tried any numbers of routes to run from my pain, numbing it, or ignoring it but in the end i run from myself.
How does healing begin? I stopped running.
I realized that there was incredible amounts of pain buried underneath; the biggest is not loving myself enough; believing that I have as much right to breathe on this planet (while we can still breathe) as anyone else; that when all is said and done we will become worm food like everything that lives.
That’s hard to realize for some; that intrinsically we ALL have value; all of us; not one of is is more deserving of respect than any other human being on this planet.
The way i am healing is asking myself the hard questions about my behavior; why must I have have this or that; why do i believe this; does this person or this object really make me happy; or is it not externals at all.
I determine my happiness; not the possession of things; not the love of or lack of love from another person or group of people.
And not this thread, not this board, not current events. None of this really matters; it only matters if I attach something to it. I can chose not to just as easily as I can chose the zings of others to mire me in self pity and self doubt.
It’s been said so many times the old story of this is a movie; you are the whole thing the writer, the producer, the actor, everything…and it’s called “Your Life” How much of your own limelight will you give to your supporting players when your the main character . It YOUR struggle, they only have the amount of time you give them. How much will you give to the props; they are just props, like you car or home, etc…..
The old adage is that it is impossible to change anyone but yourself and it’s so true. we can try in oh so many ways; but we really can’t.
And in this book mentioned before “The Heart of the Soul” stress is created from trying to change the real world to your idealized world; to what you want it to be instead of letting it be what it is. Trying to change people to suit your world; using external power or hamfisting your way to happiness.
It just doesn’t work.
You have to let people be the way they are; you have to let the world be the way it is while you work on making the best movie you can (making the best life you can). You will find that some will like what you do, some will hate what you do, some will never know.
But you’ll know.
i don’t want to be the person I was last year; i want to keep a few traits; but i also want to create a better me.
it is all about you in a good way…. but it’s also all about me, and that guy over there; and that lady next door, etc…..
Why do I feel the need to give to some of BSG; was the question I ask myself now. What was my motivation? If I gave for the wrong reasons; then I deserve the pain i received in rebuff; but the funny thing about emotions is that dang intent… The intent was good but may be the motivation changed? That’s what i believe…
And idiotic of me to lash out at Dowl and others if MY motivation changed 😳
A lesson learned when I started to change i should have stopped.
it’s not their reaction that is to blame; it is my change in why I did it. If I would have stuck with it then i would feel good about what transpired and not hurt or ashamed like i do now 😥
A lesson learned.
I held up a measuring stick to the world and said “You must be this; you must do this or that;” what idiocy is that 😳 i could just kick myself for that hubris.
Does this make me weak to admit this. Not to me… it keeps me in the frame of reference i should be; another imperfect human being.
So please, do your work my dears….
tell Saddy to delete this thread.
Thank you.
Well, enjoy that turn in that show . “shrugs”
Nice ending line though, wonder where it came from?
Ah, a touche’ moment…. what do want me to say?
“Oh, you got me good…. my posts are sooo like that….
SO what? You’re not exactly lighting up the switchboards with your responses here so I fill in gaps; don’t like it; don’t read my posts; that’s my policy.
I’m not going to get into power struggles with your “superior ” abilities; don’t much care.
I may watch BSG or i may not but the sun will hopefully rise in the morning and set in the evening; my life will go on with or without it.
It will prosper or fail; it will greenlight or not; it doesn’t affect me.
So putting this here where it may not be read or appreciated as much is kinda illogical. Wouldn’t it best serve your purposes in the BSG portion where it would be read and commented on? One of the great draws for BSG fans is the transcripts of prior shows…. this would be better there i guarantee that; not in this MF thread!
😆 “Those were the days my friend; we’d thought they’d never end… we sing and dance forever and a day… we live the life we chose, we’d fight and never lose… for we were young and so we we had our way(?)
I cleared my mp3 and put all new tracks in as I do in a new year or a new change… lots of electronica. There a song I use to help me write one story… interesting anyway….. it’s something most do not listen to.
My youngest bro got me into Massive Attack; gave me three or four dics from them for X-mas. I love my bro!
I’m writing slow but sure and nothing is ready to be seen yet; if ever…. but it’s entertaining to me.
And I watched World Trade Center 😥 😥 😥 and have “Snakes on A Plane and a couple of others.
I had to really see if this triangle movie is good enough for a series or lamo. I’ll let you know. 😉
Oh and Coldplay’s Parachutes…. so i stick with what i like….. We Never Change is my fave right now…. that will change i’m sure.
“The longest journey you’ll ever make is from you head to your heart.”
Thus begins a book called “The Heart of the Soul” by Zukav and his life partner…. i forgot her name.
There are many ways to change our lives… many roadsides, many people, many books. My priviledge in this lifetime is to rethink my life through words…. books….
This one has got me thinking and feeling and motivating me in many ways to make that personal overhaul I longed for and sorely needed.
It has pointed out to me that the hateful spew i unleashed here is not the right way to go…. my anger and fear have lead me down this path before and it does so now….
I do not want to feel this way anymore….
Fully acknowledging my part in the hate i apologize to you Dowl, your wife, and anyone involved with the show.
I tried to manipulate by pleasing and that was wrong…. part of me just wants to give because we so need to do this for each other but I made the huge mistake of expectation in return… not anymore.
I was hurt; not because. the ideas sent were used… but because i felt mocked by you and others like your wife and that hurts; so I got angry….. struck back when i tried so hard to contribute; but may be it was used to manipulate… I don’t know…. My intent was to come to the table and offer what i had, but i guess it may have seemed “off.” That was not my intention.
I have no one to blame but myself.
I just don’t want to feel this way anymore so I’ll say I’m sorry; best of luck with all you do from BSG 4 onward. I hope your love of that special lady of yours lasts a lifetime; that all of BSG cast, crew, writers, staff, etc…. find wonderful life lessons that lead them to greater happiness then even i can imagine (and that’s a lot of happiness)
And to all of you, it is my fervent wish that you never, ever, ever suffer anything like i have…. take care of diligent of yourself and each other.
Great love and hope for 2007 and beyond.
MK signing off to find the path from her head to her heart and vice versa.
I’m feeling like the Shat….. you people need to stop reading this dead thread and find some enjoyment in life….
Go celebrate whatever season you can get out of sci-fi be that structured or not by suits.
Mark Stern so needs to light a thousand candles ’cause he’s really making silly decisions.
may be if ya wouldn’t have banned me you’d get better ratings ya freakin’ idjit….
I just have to laugh though, posting at skiffy is a joke…
You want to know what 2007 has in store?
The sun rises, the sun sets; sometimes you’ll have good days; some not so good.
There ya happy? 😈
Dowl, tanked on New Years? Yeesh… Mike says hi and says go back to the white board, draw everything out and put a cork in this dance around you call a show… and finish what you start….
He wishes he could write again…. we had a mind…. I told him that he let some authority figure cramp his creativity so he spent his life fostering others ideas because he always had that feeling he wasn’t worthy of creating…. he was…. He may help me “keep it real” and focused and I could use it.
The smoking killed him of course but the throat chakra is one of expression; we express sometimes too much which wears it out and he repressed it. Even if no one ever reads what you write or paint, or mold….. it’s as important as breathing to some…. it’s the way a soul speaks back to its maker whomever that may be….
He’s got me listening to Perry Como too; “Papa Loves Mamba” and “A You’re Adorable”…. Dowl the latter is something you should try for the wife… then you could tone her competitive streak a little.
I’d let het her have an “e husband” a game she plays…. to get you to emote.
You are compulsive about work and drinking and whatever you do to deaden pain…. stop running and start embracing it ….. It means you have to examine “Gasp” your feelings…. You wife wants it; you want the deeper relationships with all people in your sphere…. it takes hard work; not a gloss over.
Emotions are not the result; they are symptoms of other problems; if you ignore emotions; you miss the bus about life.
And you life spins out of control.I don’t mind if guys secretly go through emotions and deal with the me hurt time privately; and shedding a few tears when appropriate… but Dowl what’s next….. a frilly apron and quiche in the oven?
Your wife has you wrapped 5 times around her finger…. pathetic really pathetic… p whipped badly. If i were a guy in that situ I’d be like go ahead honey find a better man than me but well, I won’t be around to play.
You can love women…. but stop being one… time enough for that in lifetimes to come.
Watching football doesn’t make you a man just like watching HGTV doesn’t makes you a woman.
I’d chew you up and spit you out ; but some men like that domineering woman handling I guess. I’m old-fashioned I ultimately want to defer to a guy but he had better have my best interest at heart and better be ready to rumble if I see anything that disrespects me.
That’s why I hope Dowl you’re ready to rumble ’cause you dissed me but I won’t leave it to me to chase it down… I’ll let others do the fighting for me. If I’m right, loss is your lot; if I’m not, loss and a lesson.
Oh, and I hope your Dad will be okay when the time comes, I’ll chant for him; take care of that emotional business sooner rather than later; you may not get a chance later. 🙁
I have to go watch a movie or write or something…. see ya kiddo.
😆
Speaking of dreams; I was watching or more correctly trying to watch the DaVinci Code and then dreamt i was in the movie and was berating Tom Hanks by saying “how can you take such a good novel and turn it into a bad movie?” Then I reworked the whole thing and it was better; more like the book.
He was annoyed at first then he caught on; and thanked me at the end.
My Lord it’s been a while …..
I think it best to print this off….. and go back to it on my PC at my pace and may be post a link to it to save bandwidth….
I was so engrossed with the other story that i forgot about this one; that one has a sketched out outline; this one does not….
I’ll try it……
Well Happy New Year to you too hishadow (get a haircut ya bum)!
Please Saddy, take down any thread that I’m leeching too much bandwidth…. I feel so ashamed….. 😳
Well alnexi likes my posts…. so there 😛
That’s okay, when you make blog room may be I’ll just blog so I can say what i need to say and you won’t have to read it 😛
I’m female, at least the last time I took a shower I was… things could change but well I like being a girl.
I’d say i would be a free spirit with too much time on my hands obviously…
That is going to change….. this year…. I’m going to make some sweeping changes… out with the old; in with the new….
and may be next year it will be hisshadow sucking all the bandwidth….
And all my not quite friends in cyberland…Don’t be hating…. just post more…..
Ciao bella; and happy New Year to all!
No science fiction here to protect my self. When a certain party is established (or not) in writing this type of story then I’ll finish it. Sorry, But I have to do a little protection…. I’ll write it and post it in a few months; if all goes right.
It gives me time for the other one when I get time…..
Toodles fro now…..
It’s time to nuke this thread; no responses so easy smeasy…
Buh bye all you lovies; and um no story until Dowl gets lost ’cause he’s a writer’ they run off with ideas….
Um Sad, please delete this thread and let’s talk about other realities, please.
Happy Birrthday; for mine I went to see “A Night In the Museum which was cute for kiddies and had some laughs for adults; and i went to the art museum (go Jackson Pollock!); pick up some stuff at Bath and Body works, Barnes and Noble, and the calendar I wanted. The Hubble pics are mind blowing. My kind of quiet day well except for the dreaded mall.
Now a couple of drinks; and off to bed with a book.
My birthday cake, a delectable peppermint brownie!
Hope yours was great too Hollydays!
One last request for me and those like me; downtrodden because we think outside the box.
For the New Year I DEMAND justice from the universe.
Just as you would not steal from someone distracted; let’s say someone who dropped a hundred dollar bill from their pocket; would you steal from another and then call you crazy when you caught them red-handed thief when you know they picked it up.
I don’t care if you are the “model” US citizen and stand for the national anthem in your home; you Dowl are low; and calling me names to justify mistreating meit in your mind is ethically wrong.
If this is the case, justice will be served by low ratings continuing and very low ratings for any new project. Make no mistake, your show, beloved of yours, will die or you will be faced to make a choice to abandon it or lose something that means the world to you.
You may be big and bad in your corner of the world but it hold no power elsewhere.
Swift and final justice; that is all I ask… silence him or me in all aspects; he will not write again; or we will reach a compromise that begins with an apology and a thank you.
If I am at fault I will pay for it in many ways; but the praise factor has reached its peak; it is time for the winds of change to sweep this away.
For all of you, never succumb to the powerful of this world; for they were given it because of past karma and it can dissipate as quickly as fog when the sun comes out.
Justice, not vengeance.
You have no fear Dowl if what you did was right.
Dear Santa,
I’ve been exceptionally me this year and I’m not going to apologize for that so let’s cut right to the chase…
Besides, you know peace on Earth, etc…etc… etc….
I want a new sci-fi show/movie to get into…. something I can really enjoy with all my fave elements, produced by people we never heard of, acted on by people we’ve never heard of, with no Big Brother network involved; no media, no hype.
And it kicks to the curb anything that we’ve ever seen before . I know it can be done; it has been done before; it’s time it happens again.
Oh, and a telescope. I had one once but I gave it to my brother and as always a Hubble telescope calendar.
Thanks Santa baby; you’re the bestest!
MK
It is time to close off this thread and shut down to let events run a course. YOU must decide whether you wish to invite these people into your hearts and minds for the remainder of the BSG sojourn. Do not do it because you think somehow you have no value and they are superior to you in any way.
It is a TV show, these are writers, and tech guys, and actors and crew; they are not super people; judge them on their merit; do they improve your life or detract from it; do they make you feel open to life or do they close you off from it. Do they expect loyalty and respect yet do not give it in return or parcel it out to those deserving. Is that tolerance or its opposite? Does it expose you to other ideas or hammer their own into your head?
The Lotus Sutra promises that all can reach enlightenment; not those just of class, of fame, of money, of intellect. There is no distinction between us and them. We ALLOW them to go on; they are at OUR disposal, not the other way around.
Remember that…. never forget that as much as they want to preach to you that only by following them to wherever they go, a new board, a new show….. you will be “special” …it’s a lie. You need no one to tell you this, you do not need the validation from a writer or his family or a network. These are temporary situations with people that won’t remember you 5-10 years from now let alone 5 minutes from now.
Best to use your short life to help those who will appreciate you now and in the years to come; to build and care for the immediate; in front of you and do not waste your time on a pursuit that is fleeting.
learn the difference between the transient and the true
It was an experience.
See you on the other side.
MK
From Madonna “Frozen”
You only see what your eyes want to see
How can life be what you want it to be
You’re frozen
When your heart’s not openYou’re so consumed with how much you get
You waste your time with hate and regret
You’re broken
When your heart’s not openChorus:
Mmmmmm, if I could melt your heart
Mmmmmm, we’d never be apart
Mmmmmm, give yourself to me
Mmmmmm, you hold the keyNow there’s no point in placing the blame
And you should know I suffer the same
If I lose you
My heart will be brokenLove is a bird, she needs to fly
Let all the hurt inside of you die
You’re frozen
When your heart’s not open(chorus)
(verse)
(chorus, repeat)If I could melt your heart
Don’t Dream It’s Over (Neil Finn)
LYRICSThere is freedom within, there is freedom without
Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup
There’s a battle ahead, many battles are lost
But you’ll never see the end of the road
While you’re traveling with meHey now, hey now
Don’t dream it’s over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they won’t winNow I’m towing my car, there’s a hole in the roof
My possessions are causing me suspicion but there’s no proof
In the paper today tales of war and of waste
But you turn right over to the T.V. pageNow I’m walking again to the beat of a drum
And I’m counting the steps to the door of your heart
Only shadows ahead barely clearing the roof
Get to know the feeling of liberation and reliefHey now, hey now
Don’t dream it’s over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
Don’t ever let them winthat’s my lyric contribution or it’d be The Pretenders….Like “My City Was Gone”
I like choppers (guitarists)
WTF? Okay, i was lured in; but this last ep was a reset button to the season 2 beginning; different players same idea.
You so need to get new military scenarios; not based in “Crimson Tide”
Ya listening? Stop watching war pics and talk to real military to get fresh ideas.
i can’t get excited about the temple, since the answer is right in Tyrol’s frackin’ face. Did you push on the eye? Will it line up with the supernova and a few seconds before paint the way to Earth; like Indiana Jones in the maproom.
Stop leeching off creativity and do your own for cripes sake.
It’s predictable, incredibly so.
Starbuck going down; yeesh….
Makes me think of a song of course “Don’t Dream it’s Over” i can’t help but think it is.
The expressions on Roslin’s face…. amusement? Oops, you found me out? What the hell is that all about?
Hiatus right? As the head elf in “Rudolph The Red nosed Reindeer” says to Hermie…..
“Not for you; finish the job or you’re fired.”
Speaking of Hermie and dentists; Cally is such a wuss and a whiner now. Colorless…..
“I miss Nicky…” 🙄
If you don’t like it don’t watch it? I like to gamble, so I’m gambling that if the ratings drop enough these writers may clean their ears out long enough to actually listen to beyond the choir of “the show is great” and listen to those that will not pass the plate in the back for them and will not reward bad writing and bad behavior from their ancillary writing families.
Newbies, watch Season 2 the beginning, the planet scene. They’ve done the same planet recon 4-5 times; different planet, same recon mission.
Can’t you see this dahlings? They are building a false illusion from this publicity stunt at the theatres that they are doing really well; that the ratings are pure bunk and mean nothing.
Yeah, they do.
It tells you that nationwide you are losing fans from ep to ep; 2000 people do not equal 2 million. You want it to; but it is not.
Face facts, you lost them, it’s hard to get new viewers without indoctrinating them from the beginning so that leaves current fans that the okayer kiss asses drive from the Skiffy board.
Don’t jump on the “don’t like don’t watch” bandwagon too quickly; can you dialogue with them; see what they like?
If you lose the marginals in January; you’ll never get them back and you ratings will remain low and lower.
That’s the true tragedy.
