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Hi Logan
How about the character who’s played by a male, (indeed looks like your regular guy although he seems to be missing the usual bits- smooth around the bend huh?) but who is in fact ‘the female of the species’ who falls for Ka Dargo in a Farscape season one episode.
”Harmes” wrote:The only rule is that they have to look sufficiently different from a normal human female. So, chiana from Farscape would count but Xev from Lexx would not.
Yeah but what about Xev in Cluster Lizard mode? I mean that spinny round bits pretty non human…
lexxrobotech wrote:I don’t think you can have sound either, but can you imagine a spaceship explosion without noise or fire?
Check out the scene in 2001 where Bowman’s been locked out by HAL and has to get back on board without his helmet… no sound in that and it works really well… conveys the weirdness of the vacuum …
7th_Dizbuster wrote:The obious one in I Robot is of course US Robotics. How much more obvoius can you get?
Yeah but hang on I thought US Robotics is an original Asimov creation i.e. a name of a fictional company thats been filched by a real company. Been a long time since I read the books anyone know for sure?
ditto ditto – the sites been stuffed for the last week – thought it was my neurotic computer – but not so because it was slow and hanging on a friends.
Hi there Logan
I seem to recall a Prisoner episode where he trashes the naughty computer by asking it “WHY?”
Even if we could fully understand the mechanics of the universe – work out a theory of everything – the fact that it exists at all seems to be the most thorny problem of all. I ‘ve read stuff about the Quantum vacuum and such like, but still it always seems that non existence – absolute nothingness – is a more likely scenario a basic state. I mean where did all this stuff come from..and why?
Ooooooooooh yeah I hate faster than light travel – no point in this as travel at light speed is instantaneous – I did the Lorentz equations for a whole term at art school on a blackboard in my studio space.. From the lights’ perspective the universe shrinks to zero depth in the direction of travel.
Also those shows like Taken (and indeed the whole Rockwell UFO thing) where the UFO is downed by a WW2 Mustang or even worse, crashes of it’s own volition – I mean are these guys really gonna travel through interstellar space then crash on a type 13 planet in its’ final stages?
He say you braderunner….
Sidhecafe and Muadib raised some interesting perspectives there..you know I’d always had Blade Runner down as harder science than most..I saw the film back in the eighties and left the cinema thinking “how the hell do I know I’m not a replicant?” with cloning kicking around..and lets face it the first human’s been cloned somewhere so we aren’ that far away from replicants. Besides think on this: I have a transsexual friend – Rachael – and she identifies very strongly with her chosen namesake. Thing is if you don’t know her history (and very few people do) you’d never tell her apart from, what she calls, ‘genetic females’. By her own admission she is a synthetic being…
as for Neuromancer –which is similar territory to a lot of Phil Dick and the Matrix – how does one tell what reality is? Besides the ‘Matrix’ in a Gibson sense is already here….isn’t it?
hey I’ve just found a light sabre in my Cornflakes packet! Looks kinda like an old lipstick though far less useful!!
This is dreadful but lets air those paranoias! yeah the site went down and although I’ve only been a sadladygeezer for a little over a month I really was at a loss – hell I went running a quarter mile down the jetty to another ship with web acess just to check! How sad is that? I was in a worse state than when Lexx came to an end here on C5…
There’s a nice 3rd Rock episode (series 2) where Sally beats the Cr@p out of MarK Hammill for stealing the Solomons table in a restuarant..Tommy and Dick do a good light sabre piss take too and later on Hammmill himself takes the piss out of the light sabre thing with a hairdryer and mocks his hand chopping off routine .. it works very well on the show..
however..something more serious is necessary..context is the stumbling block here..but how about recruiting the Lexx’s toilet ..surely someone somewhwere could do a good T shirt or better still a puppet show like Series 4 Midsummers Nightmare but with Luke n Darth…could be mobile so as to taunt the queues!!
jodi wrote:Channel 5 uk replied to my question about repeating LEXX:
Yeah this is what I got
Hmmmm indeed
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Yeah Flamegrape I think you are right…Afterall Kai wanted to be really dead..but a lot of people will miss him..I will ..I loved the way he would just fall from high places and land in a heap but…the show if it’s to survive needs to move on…and the characters need to develop..to deepen…this was beginning to happen anyway, certainly for Stan perhaps less so for Xev…she needs to be able to get away from the sexual stereotype and move more into the cluster lizard – I reckon Xenia has wanted to this anyway…
Hi there Runner…yeah what I really liked about both the Prisoner and TP was they way they spilled out of the TV and into our reality dragging their surreality with them!. As you say McGoohan had to leave the country after Fall Out was shown because he obviously was in physical danger….. and I remember all these really really normaloid regular yuppie types thinking they were so cool walking around with “I Killed Laura Palmer” T’shirts when the show was first run here in the UK. Ok so these guys had probably never seen Eraserhead and had no idea of how wierd TP was going to get – “sometimes my arms bend backwards”… I mean Lynch really got one over on the general viewing public, although I doubt he see’s it that way.
Did you ever see the TV ad for First Direct Bank aired in the UK sometime in the late 80’s early nineties? ..warped out TV and then a face and a voice saying “This is the first attempt to communicate across time” it made me sit up and just for a few seconds I really believed it..fantastic!
We need more stuff like this..
Be seeing you
I’m going to add my name to the petitions even though I have doubts..No PD? Hmmmm. I don’t think Stan and Xev would survive long without Kai..Ok so Xev’s cluster lizard makes her a tough cookie and Stan can be assertive when pushed but …I don’t know..personally I think they should bring Vlad back but brainwarped to be on their side..betterstill bring back Kai’s psychic shadow but put it into Vlad’s body..now that would be fun bring back Lyekka too..2 girls a transsexual divine executioner and one security guard 4th class …
It’s ok to feel sorry for the Dalek…shame it couldn’t adapt..that’s what one feels sorry about..I have to go with Nietzsche on the good and evil thing..one feels sorry for the springbok that’s the lions lunch but the lion is not evil because it kills to survive. The dalek is programmed to kill..it’s its nature…
Back in 88 whilst in New York I bought a brilliant book – The Sharship Builders Guide – or something like that..I’ve since lost it as you do… but it is worth getting hold of if you’re into such things. Best best for starship drives I remember was something called the interstellar ramjet..huge magnetic scoop out front.we’re talkinf of a device that extends for 10’s of kilometers….suck in the interstellar dust and blasts it out the back..no need to carry fuel..mmmm It might work.
Other than that best bet seemed to be the Project Orion pusher plate/A bomb system get you to mars in 6 weeks..they worked on this in the 60’s
Biggest problem seemed to be buiding a ship out of a suitably tough enough substance to withstand the abrasion of the interstallar medium..best we’ve got is diamond..so
We need to develop some serious new technology and learn some new stuff/develop new theory to go anywhere. Sad isn’t it. Took em 8 years to go from Gagarin to Armstong..what’s happened in the last 30 years..Fuck All .. build ships not bombs..explore don’t invade.
Moving off on a tangent…as a concept, the Ancient Egyptians solar boat – ‘The Boat Of Millions of Years’ – spring to mind (how could I forget!) I mean…4700 years ago these guys came up with as beautiful an idea as that …now that is sexy
Good Morning!
Yeah now I think about it Tinman was a singing ship…and yes it was one of those episodes that remind you just how good Star Trek was..I guess we take good (or sometimes good) TV Sci-fi it for granted these days…I remember too reading in Arthur C Clarkes novel of 2001 that the original builders of the monolith became spaceships when their technology allowed them.
I guess I’m just intrigued by the humanness of planting/extracting/projecting personality into so called ‘lifeless’ matter. Essentially from the word go – the first flint tool – humans have been defined by their technology – I read that the word Cybernetics is from the Greek Kybernetes – helmsmen – so we have that old ship connection again – remember how James Kirk and Scotty would wax lyrical obout their ship. It’s a short step to actually bringing the ship alive!
Oh yeah remind me about the Vorlons – a great name – but I’ve forgotten their location..Babylon 5 maybe?
Have to agree with you there Logan… But I marvelled at The Prisoner…how the hell did he get that put out on mainstream (all there was back then!) TV…I thought I’d never see the like of it ever again then along came Twin Peaks!
Someone will come out with something brilliant that I’d wished I’d thought of..
ok I agree with you guys…C5 should show Lexx from the beginning or at least from series 2 ..but lets face it it’s going to be scheduled late if at all because there were only a handful of S4 episodes that attracted even one ad slot so they don’t push the show much beyond a ‘filler’…..but I will mail them. ( I couldn’t stand it when S4 ended on C5 . sadgeezerette that I am I got the whole of Lexx on disc — and be assured the acorn releases are uncoded for region and will play on region two machines. Also the Acorn editions are better packaged than Contender versions)… . But I digress..Lexx really is so brilliant that it does deserve a proper airing and ther show does warrant a complete viewing to grasp the nuances of ‘the whole picture’.
learn to dream lucidly…. weird stuff believe me I once dreamt I was in the old standard alien abduction scenario ..on the examination couch..ha ha I don’t believe all that abduction stuff for one second , but this dream sure put the shits up me! It was that real..now that gets me thinking about a short story…Shame I can’t write t’save me life..but buy an old golfball type writer and junk the processor…
Good luck
Hell I like being me! But I’m cool about getting Chip Delany too!
I like those who have the guts to be themselves in hostile environments…have t’admit that there are times when I walk around this country (UK) and I know just how those aliens who are supposed to heave infiltrated the human race back in the 50’s felt!!!.Thing is not much has changed Queers and Dykes are allegedly accepted these days but one of my friends ‘Omah’ J was black and gay and he didn’t let on to any one….So yeah Chip Delany sounds cool to me!Gregory Benford..I read his Timescape which is good as hard sci-fi goes not the sort of thing I’d re-read that often, Timescape was published early 8o’s and by then you had stuff like Neuromancer so Benford seems a bit Arthur C Clarke ish….
I got Chip Delany.. but don’t know his stuff.
Oh yeah..the human animal thing… the shamanistic notion of shapeshifting is a remarkably resiliant concept/activity …. Wolverine, Toad, Sabretooth from the X-Men for starters, then there’s The Crow. Well this threads gone off a long way from Sci-fi angst.. perhaps we need a new topic?
Sidhecafe wrote:II believe that true mythic tales are teaching tales…how are we human? what makes us react to new things in different ways? where do we go from here?
Those are the landscapes that speculative fiction travels across.
Thats right! Our human need to define ourselves has always seemed to be contingent upon defining what is not human. Shamanism proceeded from the activity of hunting… a way of life where human conceptual worlds intimately overlapped with those of other creatures who are/were not human. The shaman and the hunter through the mundane activity of providing food crossed into those other worlds. With this activity came the problematic notion of taking life in order to live. Ethical thought (at the heart of a lot of ‘serious’, if not most, sci-fi – e.g. Blade Runner- Frankenstein) surely begins at and proceeds from this point.
Since agriculture took over from hunter/gathering in the Neolithic this symbiotic relationship has diminished: We are humans they are animals..or at least we define a whole plethora of beings under an all encompassing other – ‘animal’. I suspect that we’d have dealt with Alien contact better 20,000 years ago, because since we became ‘civilised’ humans have largely lost the ability to communicate with other species…. (more later when I’ve had time to think).
All speculative fiction as righly pointed out by Sidecafe travels into non human landscapes … ‘countries of the mind’. Such storytelling seeks to re-new the primal link to experiences which we once had greater access to, and seem to miss. Hence the continuing popularity of Sci-fi and fantasy.
Whatever
Cheery bye
Sci-fi is as old as the hills…and many good writers with an informed sense of history pick up on these strands. Like in Lexx where the ship is alive and talks (even if Lexx is stupid) Ok this idea may have been resurrected by Anne McCaffrey but ships have always had souls and Jasons ship the Argo talked to him some two thousand five hundred years ago.
Blade Runner is arguably based on Paradise Lost via Shelley’s Frankenstein. Intresting too that in the recentish film ‘Mary Shelleys Frankenstein’ the Creature played by deNiro seems to have borrowed much in terms of imagery and charcter from Roy Batty, how deliberate this is who knows? My guess is there’s a knowing dialogue within the genre, with quotes and references all over the place, this keeps the old stories alive just like in a narative or oral tradition. Besides Jason’s story is of a guy who travels to new worlds in a craft who is alive and talks to him. He and his crew meet different cultures. tribal groups etc who have bad things in store for them. The story has been interpreted as being Jasons coming to terms with the power of the feminine..sound familar – There a lot of Jason in Lexx a series where all the strong (living) characters a mostly women.
But thats what’s good about sci-fi women have been allowed to outgrow the role of ‘bimbo to be rescued by a hunky guy’ to those doing the rescuing. (Relax guys I’m a lipstick lesbian)
I think the genre needs more stuff like Lexx, and indeed ‘Enterprise’ (sometimes) it seems to hark back to the original Star Trek than next generation. Films have had a hard time breaking away from Blade Runner in terms of style but Gattaca was good. There is a lot of routine stuff however, lets face it Forbidden Planet – a film from the fifties which borrows from Shakespeare’s Tempest – actually turns the tables on the whole ‘alien’ thing that worried the western world during the cold war so much, by having the alien turn out to be the human subconscience… I mean how cool is that?
Yeah the new Doctor Who grows on you nice to see they’ve kept it quite hammy like the old series but the new show is much much better. Eccleston will be hard to follow… shame he jacked it in so soon..Billie’s good too… theres a good chemistry between them.
What I’d like to see would be a movie of Asimov’s novel The End of Eternity.. which has to be the best time travel story going…
Rin wrote:corvina wrote:Anakin Skywalker? who? – I got this twice – changing a few marginals
hell I’d rather have been Roy Batty or better still Sally from 3rd Rock I’ve never rated Star Wars at all and so don’t know who the hell this guy is.
Anakin actually turns out to be the awesome Darth Vader 8)[/quote]
Jesus….. I don’t think awesome is an adjective that describes me! but I do love crows and do tend to side with Lucifer in Paradise Lost. I guess I just hate authority and being told what to do by any other entity. Still rather be Roy Batty even if it does mean a sex change…”but then I’d rather be a killer than a victim”
I thought about Angelina but I’m not sure… superficially she’s too much like Xenia and Xenia really made Xev her own….
but how about Jolene Blalock..now if you can get past her Enterprise character I really thing she could make a brilliant XZEV
cheery bye
Favourite Lexx ? A Midsummers Nightmare – Xenia trying to stop laughing and be a tree
Kai ” I don’t want to be a tree ..I AM A TREE” priceless
Yeah despite everything I said before I’d go for Johnny Depp as Stan – Inspired!
Thing is guys although XEV is beautiful, Xenia ain’t yer obvious hollywood plastic bimbo. Instead she has a wonderful quirky fragile beauty, she isn’t classically pretty, which is why she’s attractive and sexy to girls too! I just can’t think who could replace Xenia
Anne Parillaud (Nikita) Kristen Johnston (Sally – 3rd Rock)
hmm.
Anakin Skywalker? who? – I got this twice – changing a few marginals
hell I’d rather have been Roy Batty or better still Sally from 3rd Rock I’ve never rated Star Wars at all and so don’t know who the hell this guy is.
Spaceships…. Y’know I really like Lexx, as everyone who has anything to do with ships/boats they have a soul, a presence. I live in one – a big metal beasty 160 ft long… but I also have a little wooden one called Lyekka – Right back at the beginnings Jason’s ship Argo spoke to him and her keel was laid from some sacred Oak. Anyone into sailing will tell you wooden boats are best they are organic…. so The Lexx is part of a very old tradition.
In terms of your standard hardware…I always thought the Klingon Birds of Prey were cooler than Enterprise but the Romulan ships from the later Star Treks have it for me. Best of all were the Lynchian creations in Dune that had a real alien technology feel and none of the usual hi-techy feel.
Cheery bye
Quatermass Well I agree with you it was OK I’ve not seen the original but I did rate Q/mass and the Pit which was brilliant and then there was always The Stone Tape which I saw when it was originally aired way back in 70@s so that dates me… still the story has haunted me since. The new Q/mass was s strange kind of time slipped experience….still at least the BBC had the moxie put the thing out. Not much imaginative scifi around, certainly not in the mould of Mr Lynch’s Dune. Interesting how the new Dr Who borrows from just about everything gong from Lexx (Bad Carrots safely metamorphosed into the little spiders) to the watered down 3rd Stage Navigator and minions….shame but then it is, and always has been, mainstream saturday night fodder.
See ya Loverboy
Jesus! I don’t think you could make Lexx without Xenia and Brian. Maybe, just maybe in a theoreical series 5 you could replace Kai with Mina’s Vlad but…yeah why not! We had a screening of Wagners Ring on the TV here recently (UK) now it’s funny but it was really Lexxian, not in any overt way but just the underlying feel of thing…implied an underlying and unifying strand, perhaps Lexx could ….
April fools Lexx? Gearge W Bush to play the role of President Priest. The artist Formely Known as Prince to play Prince. Tony Blair security guard 5th class Prince Harry as Princes minion (rip his tongue out too). Patrick MacGoohan as His Shadow Ah hell when you start thinking about it it’s hard to think of anyone else being up to the job. ….
