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Well if you can’t choose which day, that makes it difficult. Else, I could go back become Hitler, shoot myself and change history. But with bad luck, I’d find myself in a bunker at the end. Oh but if I could choose the era, it would before he became chancellor.
I think the rules are you can’t change histroy significantly?
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I’d try to find some way to hide a treasure so the original host couldn’d get it back and I could find it in the future. Like I could be Rockefeller in America, convert all my money into jewels, hide it and shoot myself as I would be the only witness. Then I could recover it in present time.
I’m not sure if that fits into all the rules of Quantum Jump.Ok those are are two themes:
Being a hero and eliminating evil.
Being greedy and getting rich.
There is also sex theme.. I could be one of those Sheiks of Araby with 50 wives.
And the solve a mystery theme, like being Lee Harvey Oswald and really know… maybe… what he was up to and solve the conspiracy theory of the last century.I like the “muckracker” themes with guys writing future predictions and graffiti on the pyramids.
Human interest theme
For Human interest, the first type is seeing lost or actual history like the religious scholar above. So I’d choose to be a war leader, that I knew survived the battles like Alexander the Great or maybe the First Emperor of China or maybe Julius Ceasar.
The second Human Interest theme would be just to experience the atmosphere of the times like being Bob Dylan in the 60’s.
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Ok Final Answer…
Ok , i can ony pick one, best to be a guy living an excellent life. ok Emperor Kangxi (1622-1723) of China in the best times of the Qing Empire. He had a fabulous life, going on royal hunting trips, etc. I’d live a vacation day of luxury.My theme was who would I like to be for a day in present times.
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The Day I Ruled the WorldtheFrey wrote:kokopelli wrote:I’m keeping a blog based on scifi or futurist issues including movie, book, tv,political and social commentaries. Check out my “Top Ten People I’d like to be for a Day”. 😉
No, no… you can only pic one. See this post 😀 Leaping[/quote]
Thanks Frey, I hadn’t seen that. I’ll post a choice there. Mine is just a little different, there is no time travel, It is “Leaping” in present time, present day. And it is top ten choices even if I could only do it once, but, there’s nothing wrong with doing it ten times.
I punched up my “I, Robot” review and put it on my new blog. Also, I wrote another Essay about Asimov and the “Frankenstein Complex” called “The Frankenstein War”. The links to MovieTV stuff are here:
http://blademoviestv.blogspot.com/
I’m not really finished with the topic. As I was writing about the future of A.I. I realized how vast the subject is and how it’s hard to come to any conclusion yet. As far as the empty vacuum of Hollywood that is more or less a dead issue in regard to scifi. It just remains to finish the autopsy.
But for society, maybe Asimov ws right, maybe he was wrong. It remains to be seen if Humans and A.I. can live in peace…Could that day come that a genuine A.I. be created!I’m keeping a blog based on scifi or futurist issues including movie, book, tv,political and social commentaries. Check out my “Top Ten People I’d like to be for a Day”. 😉
Favourites
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10: The Prisoner
9: Twilight Zone (original)
8: Outer Limits (Original)
7: Star Trek ((TOS)
6: Star Trek(TNG)
5: Star Trek (Voyager)
4: Tripping the Rift
3: Stargate-SG1
2: 4400
1: BSG (New)I heard good things about it. The story line give the opportunity for interesting character interactions.
Headgehog wrote:kokopelli wrote:Hola Catperson!
I have a new thread in “The Prisoner” forum , but it is invisible. I can find it on search function but it does not up on the forum index.
Is in in queue or lost in space?
I’m not sure what is causing that problem. It is appearing fine on the new posts list onthe main page, but it’s oddly enough not being listed on the threads list in that forum. Moving the thread from one forum to another didn’t help. I tried to recreate the problem, but everything worked fine for me. Later today I can try to create the thread so that it will appear.[/quote]
Hey! Someone can hear me. thanks.
Yes, anther problem is that the indexes for the individual forums seem to be working erratically. For eample I posted to a thread in the General forum and it did not show up. I modified the post and it still did not show up. Finally the next day, I deleted the post and reposted a copy. That time finally iti showed up on the index.
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I know the posts show up on the main page index of latest posts but not everyone uses that page. Also as new posts push the old post listings off that page then the post and thread become invisible.
It’s discouraging to post anything if it can’t be seen.Merry Christmas to all and to all a Merry Holidays Too!
kokopelli wrote:Hola Catperson!
I have a new thread in “The Prisoner” forum , but it is invisible. I can find it on search function but it does not up on the forum index.
Is in in queue or lost in space?
Hey!
It seems nobody is maintaining this site. I suppose it might decay even further. I still have a thread in the prisoner forum and it is invisible. An no one had replied to my inquiry.Well, regardless that I like posting here, I guess there is no choice but to restrict posting.. No point posting if no one can see it. “In sadgeezer no one can hear you scream”.
.. heee hee.. paraphrase..I will check back every few months to see if there is any change.
kokopelli wrote:Lex is currently being rerun daily on Showcase in Canada, Monday to Friday, same episode run twice a day.
It is currently in Season Three, episode “”Tunnels”..
Here is a Christmas present for Canadian fans.
Currently on Showcase channel in Canada are showing the first four movies divided into eight TV episodes. The episodes are screened Monday to Friday, the 4 PM episode being repeated again at 8 pm MST. The entire 8 parts will be shown running into next week.
Today we are at part 2 of eight parts i.e. the second part of “I Worship his Shadow” . An excellent opportunity for those such as I to get caught up.!!!!
happy happyYeah, right! Patrick McGoohan was going to give it away just like that.
Not Bloody Likely!
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Peter Smith was an alias and false identity.
In my humble opinion and everybody else’s too if they have any sense. 😉lizard wrote:Gosh this is interesting! Didn’t know there was such a to-do after the prisoner series. Patrick McGooan is an awsome actor. If something would make me go see Harry Potter it would be him. Too bad.
He is a villian in an episode of Columbo– one of the best.
I didn’t know either. For many decades I only heard one vague rumour that I couldn’t understand. Now, finally it is clarified and confirmed for me. Patrick simply disappeared and then resurfaced in America later on, but never doing the superstar roles he deserved. The story of the aftermath was never carried in North American media. I don’t know about Europe. It is only because of the internet now that we can know a little of the aftermath.
Imagine if there had been the internet back in the old days. There would be a billion articles on the Aftermath.Columbo
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Yes, It was four different episodes. Robert Culp did two episodes playing two different villains.
Patrick is very close friends with Peter Falk.
He also won and emmy for one of those episodes.IMDB
“Played four different murderers in four different episodes of “Columbo”: Columbo: By Dawn’s Early Light (1974) (TV), Columbo: Identity Crisis (1975) (TV), Columbo: Agenda for Murder (1990) (TV) and Columbo: Ashes to Ashes (1998) (TV). He also directed all of these except the first as well as Columbo: Last Salute to the Commodore (1976) (TV) and Columbo: Murder with Too Many Notes (2000) (TV).”
“Was at one point considered to replace Peter Falk as Columbo.”
But he would have made a wonderful James Bond. I wonder which Bond movie he turned down?
“But looking for answers in The Prisoner is like going down the rabbit hole in Alice in Wonderland.” heh heh
MuadDib wrote:The question no one’s really asked is “is it eternal life and eternal youth, or just eternal life?” because the later could be very scary.
Secondly it also depends on what type of immortality, standard “keep your body”? yep that’s okay, copying over to clone bodies? yep okay with that despite the fact that there would eventually be errors, converted to energy the whole “higher plain thing”? yeah thats okay, downloaded into a machine? I could go for that. Head in a jar? Uhh no thanks, I remember Leonard Nimoy’s “Simple life of dignity” on Futurama.
We sort of did cover this.
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Well “Q” did spend some time as an amoeba in a petrie dish. He said it was kind of very boring. The continuum had threatend to leave him there forever several times for his bad behaviour. also his son was once under threat of this. “Q” has had some awful experiences in the Continuum’s penal system. 😉Forever is such a long time. The earth is only 5 Billion years old, the Universe (at least in this cycle) is only 15 Billion years old. Life is only Four Billion years old. In terms of forever, we haven’t really started yet.
I have a new thread in this forum here:
For some reason isit is currently invisible , the index not working.
Poems and Intro for Generation X Remake
—————————————————-I am Actor McGoohan and I am very tall
You are Number Six under a big rubber ball.I am Patrick Cool and I get aroun’
You are number Six in our little town.I am Numero Uno and I own the show.
You are Number Six and will tell us all you know.No! No! I’m a gettin’ out!
Ho! Ho! Try another Shout.…………………………………
Where am I?
…In the 21st Century Dude.What do you want?
…Snails and puppy dog tails.Whose side are you on?
…By the Rogercidal Seaside, man.We want breakfast…lunch…cappucinos.
I’m not paying.
…You are not invited.Who are you?
…The new Nutter Too.Who is Number 1?
…You are Nutter 6.I am not a Nutter. I am a Married Man!
Well la de da
Anyway we don’t do maniacal laughter anymore dude.Be seeing you.
…Be doing you.==================================
There once was a prisoner named Six
Whose finale it did not transfix
They burned his house down
And ran him outta town
And thereafter his numbers were nix.There once was an Actor named Patrick
Who thought he could pull out a hat trick
His “Fall Out” was so dumb
It left everyone numb
And wondered to them what he did stick?There once was an actor named McGoohan
Whose series he was given a free hand
But what he used his hands for
Was far too hardcore
And they ran him out of Eng-a-LandThere once was a village Balloon
That was not for a honeymoon
It could smother your head
And leave you quite dead
Then quietly sink back into the Ocea-oon.“The episode “Once Upon A Time” had been made quite early on, in March 1967, and stockpiled with the intention of using it as a first season closer. In the event it was used almost as a buffer episode at position sixteen while McGoohan wrote “Fallout” to take up the story and provide the series resolution.”
Interesting…episode 16 was originally meant to be the Season Finale..
“There are many theories, some quite fanciful, as to why The Prisoner was made up of seventeen episodes – an extremely unlikely number in anyone’s book. The simple truth is that, despite it’s cult status today, the series bombed on it’s first showing and the production, over budget and out of time, was cancelled. The cast and crew, with sixteen episodes filmed (but not necessarily completed), were told that they could make only one more episode to wrap up the loose ends – an episode unwritten and unscripted, yet due to go into production the following week!”
http://www.the-prisoner-6.freeserve.co.uk/episode_aftermath.htm
I found an awesome prisoner site. Here is a webpage on the “aftermath” after the episode “fallout”
I don’t know how much of this information is accurate as it contradicts some of the info from other sites. eg. Other sources say that Patrick himself cancelled the series and refused to do a second season.
http://www.the-prisoner-6.freeserve.co.uk/episode_aftermath.htm
“He wrote “Fallout” over the weekend following the decision to cancel the series. The script was only partly finished by the beginning of the next week and filming began with no clear indication of how it was all going to end. The rest was written “on the fly”, some was improvised and Kenneth Griffith, playing the Judge, had to write his own speech. The episode has no dialogue at all in the final third segment. According to Alexis Kanner and others, they made most of the action up on the spot and the musical director describes “miles of wasted film, just because Pat didn’t like it”. All of which possibly means that Fallout was made as expensively and obscurely as possible as a gesture of defiance!”
“It’s true to say that the Fallout episode bears little relationship to the rest of the series and the effect on the remaining TV audience, already struggling to make any sense out of it, was inevitable. They got a rope, lit torches and marched! McGoohan himself tells the story of people “beating on his door with mallets” and how he had to flee the country. A little far fetched perhaps but there was certainly a lot of resentment thrown at him and the ITV switchboards were jammed with complaints for several days after the Fallout transmissions.”
So what it means is that the final episode ws rushed, had not been planned or given enough time to be written and possibly deliberately sabotaged.
Yes, there is little doubt in my mind now that Patrick was actually forced to leave England to find some peace of mind. He might have been quite embarassed.
hehe… They actually came after him like the villagers came after Dr. Frankenstein…. Dr. McGoohanstein, your monster has killed some villagers and they are quite upset.
“in my mind” ..”in MY mind” (remember that?)…there is little doubt that…Fallout was the word of the Lord and that…
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!Dem bones, dem bones gonna walk aroun’,
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun’
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun’
Oh, hear the word of the Lord.that
This site…your site….like Ozymandias …gone..
Only lone and level sands remain of what once wass the great glory of a Prisoner Website.
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear —
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.’Hola Catperson!
I have a new thread in “The Prisoner” forum , but it is invisible. I can find it on search function but it does not up on the forum index.
Is in in queue or lost in space?
I think Patrick McGoohan was far ahead of his time.
Consider perhaps the popular “Lost”. Is it not a recycling of the Prisoner Idea with all its themes?
When will they meet Number one?
Will they ever escape?
Who is experimenting with them?
Who are they really? What does identity mean?
….Ezekiel cried, “Dem dry bones!”
Ezekiel cried, “Dem dry bones!”
Ezekiel cried, “Dem dry bones!”
“Oh, hear the word of the Lord.”The foot bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!Dem bones, dem bones gonna walk aroun’,
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun’
Dem bones, dem bones, gonna walk aroun’
Oh, hear the word of the Lord.The head bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the foot bone,
Oh, hear the word of the Lord!Patrick is 77 this year. I think he is still alive. Birthday March 19.
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Found a good short bio for his career and what happened after the Prisoner…http://www.danger-man.co.uk/docs/Telegraph.doc
I don’t know when this interview was done. It isn’t dated.
Patrick doesn’t mention anything about public reaction after “The Prisoner”. I have the impression he had too much control in the series and that was eventually a detrimental effect.He was even offered and backed out of a second season. I have the impression of a person who works too hard and burns out. Perhaps it was not a good thing that he had been so popular and had gotten so much power to control the fate of “The Prisoner.” The fault then rests on Lord Grade who gave him far too much leeway.
If one considers the intensity of his performances it makes senseto think that he would be likely to burnout quite often. Definitely some kind of counterbalancing influence on him for his whole life would have been for the better. Then perhaps we would have seen him in Bond and as Gandalf etc.
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“Then, after only one short series, he abruptly left his puzzled British viewers to go and live in Switzerland and, subsequently, the United States. Ever since, many have wondered why he left so suddenly and what has become of him and his career.In fact, it was McGoohan himself who ended what had become a highly controversial series, saying: “It has knocked me out – I am whacked. I just can’t do it any more”. And it was mounting tax problems which drove him from the country as soon as the series had been completed.”
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“But I will never do another television series, not for all the money in the world. Television is fodder, popcorn”.”
But Prisoner Popcorn was one of the better brands.
Hi Cat!
The forum index on a thread in the General TV Forum was not working properly last weekend.
I ended up replicating my post and then deleting it just to update the thread index as to who last posted.
The thread about hiding behind the couch….theFrey wrote:Living a much longer life span would depend on the state of mental and physical health you would enjoy.
If they could cap you at say 30-40 or even 50 it would not be too bad. If it became a gradual thing… like it takes 80 years to reach 40ish health and then it is a lonnnnnnnng slow slide from there….. no.
I would not like to spend 50 or 60 years (or longer) with 80/90ish health. I have seen theGrandmother, theGreatAunt, and theOldestUncle experience this. While they were glad to be with us that long, they were also looking forward to escaping the aches, pains and medical limitations by taking the big sleep soon.
Well yes there’s that and also Venus made many good points. I’m just assuming that if technology can keep a person living forever, it can also keep you healthy and vigorous.
Teh article is still there:
“Life extension is not everything, after all. Near-starvation and castration both bring unusual longevity, but few of us choose either option. ”
Well some sacrifices I am not willing to make.
“We might remember the wisdom of Odysseus, who was offered immortality by a luscious goddess, Calypso, but turned her down to grow old and die with his wife, Penelope.”
..the moral..never marry anyone called Penelope.
lvcambot wrote:But who really paid for and runs the site?
You are begining to lose me a bit..
It looks like a CBC company..[/quote]
Not really.
lvcambot wrote:It all comes down to money. It is really cheap to bring in $5 an hour PA’s to man the Mac computers. So it takes 25 or 50. Those poor souls hold out hope that the big guns will throw them a crumb. Thus they spend probably 12 hours a day using the Internet as their own little money machine.
This stuff is totally evil. Whedon and his crew are guilty as hell.
GENE
Sounds interesting. What else?
I voted forever.
I don’t buy this stuff that people will become apathetic and want to die. That would be to say that to live is to be depressed and unhappy. All depression can be overcome. If it’s true that they become depressed then they can just get some psychotherapy.
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If someone doesn’t want to die today, then I am very sure they won’t want to die a Billion years from now, because really…it will still be “today” i.e. the present moment.
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“Forever” is really only the present moment. A Billion years from now, that present moment experience wwon’t be any different, the mystery and fear of death will still be there and the love and desire to live and experience pleasure and happiness will still be there.lexxrobotech wrote:Ahh….
You forgot my best Spielberg movie : Empire Of the Sun.
My best ever… by far!
Not me who forgot! I only took the poll off the weblink I gave above. I wondered how many might not be there and why they selected only those.
I was pleasantly surprised to find out “Empire of the Sun” was J.G. Ballard’s fictionalized autobiography.
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Here are the poll results so far:Quickvote
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What is your favorite Spielberg movie?
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Schindler’s List (1993) 26% <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 21%
Saving Private Ryan (1998) 19%
E.T. (1982) 11%
Jaws (1975) 8%
Jurassic Park (1993) 7%
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) 6%
War of the Worlds (2005) 1%
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Total Votes: 12,314http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1137684-1,00.html
Shiroekitsune wrote:Space = no sound, tech/directors have said that you have to fake this for the audience other wise ppl wont watch it. Means add sound!
That is far too vague for me. What is meant by “people”?
And how did they come to this conclusion and under what circumstance? How is it tested. How is it determined? What examples are used to test “people”?
What is the true meaning of this, how is it determined?
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Does it mean they think they will make 53 million instead of 52.6 million. Does “people” mean 53 percent of an audience?
What are the demographics of the “people” sample in terms of income, cultural classs and so many other factors of the polled sample?
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Is this the process of major corporations “levelling” society. What that means is suppose we give a movie classification of “M” for the Moron social class. So the corporations determine that making an “M” class movie will get a 678% return on investment and making a “N” (Normal to one Standard Deviation above ) will only get a 525% ROI. So they make the “M” class.But that is not all, they have to control the market, so they try to elimate their own studios and other studios from making any competitive movies. They want control of the market and so snuff out any “N” or superior class products. Thank God they can’t completely and thank God for Indies, but they do try.
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Now if you think that idea is Science Fiction, rest assured that Miramax bought up the rights to the Chinese movie “HERO” (tricked the original producers) in order to snuff it so it couldn’t win any Oscars for Foreign Film in that year against Miramax’s other products. Then they took the movie released it two years later for American audiences and changed it to dumb it down for the “M” class…. citing “the original wouldn’t go over”.. whatever that really meant.
No Scifi story there.Now about sound and silence, sure movie makers can make effective use of silence or they can use music scores, but using wind effects is totally unnecessary. And another factor, Aren’t they in fact conditioning audineces to become ADD and “M” class? By not allowing anything else they are training the audience to expect the “M” effect. It is not a one way street, what audiences see, is what they learn to expect.
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I’ve seen bad CGI on top of the line Hollywood movies. It still has a long long way to go.arHeadgehog wrote:Well he’s not a cylon in the technical sense. Someone with as much power and control in the fleet such as him, Tigh or Gaeta would have already destroyed humanity by now. Unless of course the cylons want some of humanity to survive in some sort of Darwinist experiment.
Completely agreed. There isn’t any point in even considering if he or Tigh is a Cylon. Roslin is an idiot to even worry about it. If he is then her only option is to jump out of an airlock before she is used for medical experiments.
In such a situation as they have Everyone’s fate rests with a few individuals. If those individuals betray them then everyone is dead..OHH you say !! Old Thread?..No! This is the point where I am at currently in Canada.
A few more eps and I will have finished Season One and start Season TWO on Spacecast Jan 14, 2006.But I think we wil catch up before S3 starts , then we will fall behind again.
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Ahh.. don’t be so hard on Adama. Those decisions follow the dictates of military thinking. All leaders with the active use of power are despots, that’s their responsibility. Look at Patton or McArthur. That’s why all successful civilizations separate Miltiary Administration from Civilian. And it’s always a dynamic interplay between these forces.
Anyway, in most jobs, you have to wait a year to give a performance review.Yes, the CGI is often so bad they should just forget it. And that is referring to the top Hollywod movies.
Like the CGI in the big fight scene in “I,Robot”. What the Robots do iis impossible for any metal’s stuctural integrity and the CGI ignored the effects of gravity. It was even more so for the Humans depicted in the action.
So, yes we can suspend disbelief just for entertainment but the feeling is like watching a Roadrunner Cartoon.
It’s even worse for martial arts films where it’s not even meant to be Science Fiction. Sometimes, or often, the bodies of the fighters are completely distorted in their actions, which totally distroys the illusion.
Speaking of which, I still have to see ONG BAK, the Thai boxer movie where he does all his own stunts, and from the commercials they are awesome.
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So what CGI has been good or useful? Or what orther methods have been good?
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The effects of wire-work and bullet-time photography in such movies as the Matrix are pretty awesome. It comes down to being willing to do hard work for a good illusion.
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Yes the spaceships are often making noise in space. I think i even heard them whipping around in BSG mixed in with the other sound effects. I suppose De Rigour for space travellers is a good pair of ear plugs so they can get a good cycle’s sleep.“Hereeeees Johnny! ” Jack Nicholson “The Shining”
Dr. Who
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Exterminate!!!!” (pronounced somewhat like “EX-TER-MIN-ATE!”)
various Daleks“What a wonderful butler, he’s so violent!”
Outer Limits:
“What difference does it make, whether it’s 20 minutes or 20 years, since neither amounts to the faintest echo of the tiniest whisper in the thunder of time. ”
“Better to die than to sit and watch the world die. “
Damn that Stan! He’s so stupid!
Now, I’ll never find out how it ends and I’ll never find out what was behind that door.Well that’s his epitaph:
“A tweedledum’s life, A tweedledee’s end.”
What happpend to my hero Patrick after “The Prisoner”? Is it that the Brits took exception to his critical view of the English Establishment in the final episode of The Prisoner and he had to go to America to find any work at all?.
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Or did it make him rich and did he retire..to a village ..by the sea…with a minder named……Roger?So two explanations/hypothesies are proposed by Gene to account for the incredible trash or (trash component in worthy vehicles) calling itself scifi these days:
1. A Nation at War.
2. The creation of a Fractured Social Consciousness.
“Following ‘Duel’s successful TV airing, Universal released ‘Duel’ overseas in 1973. Since the movie’s 74 minutes was not long enough for moviegoers, Universal had Spielberg spend 2 days filming several new scenes. These new scenes turned ‘Duel’ into a 90 minute film. The new scenes were the railroad crossing, school bus, and David Mann’s telephone conversation with his wife. Profainity was also dubbed in to make the film look like a major motion picture.”
Do you hear that Oh Great Unwashed Ones? Swearing was added so that we can feel right at home, so we can feel we are not missing out on anything!
ROTFLMAO!
But at that, considering the plot, swearing would be unavoidable..maybe it was left out in the original.
Thanks for the headsup on “Duel”. I’m checking that up now.
Here is a link to an interview with Spielberg on his latest movie “Munich”. He makes some reference to his scifi flicks and what direction he is choosing today.
Just saw an ad for it on TV today.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1137684-1,00.html
Popular interest in science fiction has contributed a lot of positve as well as negative. I have done a lot of research on TV scifi both in reading articles and in probing the fanbase. There seems is a dearth of statistical information that could be and needs to be collected on these large groups and the interaction with the Fantasy Makers.
I think there is a big void here from which several books could evolve. What do you think?I voted Juriassic Park. To me this was very unique, new idea and exciting.
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How does Spielberg do it? He makes so many Iconic and Ground-breaking films. And regaardless of subject, the quality is always Suberb!carup008 wrote:Andromeda’s final two episodes must surely rank as one of the worst endings for a Scifi show ever!
Andromeda’s final Season was completely ludicrous. It was a complete betrayal of the show’s premise and totally pointless.
As a motter of fact almost every episode was a betrayal of the the series.
Dylan is to retore the commonwealth. Fine. Great. He works hard to do so.
Except almost every episode he finds some resource or person to add to the commonwealth.
Except then the resource is blown up or the person killed or an entire civilization destroyed, Dylan and company make some superficial joke about it and go on to restore the commonwealth by searching for some new asset or person to destroy or kill.Finally,l in the last season, it is all for nothing, everything they might have accomplished is gone, they are lost and helpless for 20 episodes and then they return to blow up the earth or whatever and who cares anyway because the main characters never cared about any of the hundreds and millions of people that got killed, they were all dispensible to promoting their own “Heroism”.
Hollydays wrote:LOL! Yes – dead rotting donkey for both of them!!
I found the original to be quite moving and to be dealing with a unique theme.
Is it that this kind of movie is not to your taste?
Or perhaps it is that you read the original book by Stanislav Lem and were disatissfied with the movie adaptations of the book?The original “Solyaris” directed by Andrei Tarkovsky is a Russian flm. It is slow but to some of us, but not boring at all.
But of course, I might explain that when i watch a screen I don’t require the camera to be moving or the people to be moving or things exploding as per the ADD generation’s needs.
Here is a user review that might explain the attraction of the original:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293/#comment
“The thing that generally stands out most about this movie is that it is long. Very long. And Russian. Very Russian.
It raises a lot of interesting questions about the nature of humanity, conscience, love, etc. which, honestly, I’d never thought to ask before, and don’t care enough to answer now that they HAVE been asked. (Will Shame really save humanity? Who knows? Maybe. How will it do that? Haven’t a clue. Now what’s for lunch?) That’s not to say I didn’t like the movie. I did. It’s very beautifully shot, such that I think it would be worth purchasing, even if I never sit through the whole thing again, just so that I can have scenes like “City of the Future” on hand as a reference for my own film-making endeavors.”
lvcambot wrote:kokopelli wrote:lvcambot wrote:Oh well.. And more BSG to suffer through.
You wouldn’t be W. C. Field’s re-incarnation would you? How do you feel about children and pets?.[/quote]
I love dogs and children.. if they are cooked properly.
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Some people have good taste and some people taste good I guess.
Ghouls and werewolves and purple things are usually the people eaters.Just remember in the the scifi universe lovers are eaten before dogs.
Your enthusiasm is refreshing but I did like Firefly.
Maybe you don’t like cowboys so thne there would be no hope for you.
How do you feel about Clint Eastwood or John Wayne?
If you can’t sing “Rawhide” you might not get past St. Peter, i’m sorry to say.
————————————-Keep movin’, movin’, movin’,
Though they’re disapprovin’,
Keep them shippers movin’ Firefly!
Don’t try to understand ’em,
Just rope and throw and grab ’em,
Soon we’ll be living high and wide.
Boy my heart’s calculatin’
My River will be waitin’, be waiting at the end of my ride.Move ’em on, head ’em up,
Head ’em up, move ’em out,
Move ’em on, head ’em out Firefly!
Set ’em out, ride ’em in
Ride ’em in, let ’em out,
Cut ’em out, ride ’em in Firefly!.kids stuff? muppets? puppets? CGI?
FARSCAPE!!!!!????..
Well I admire your enthusiasm, but you are obviously far away in the epsilon qudrant, which is a neat trick in itself. You are sipping in the long, dark muppet time of the soul.I’m happy with BSG and 4400, if anything bring back the universe of Dark Star and Solaris.
I like to see Alien and Predator versus everyone from Farscape.Shredded muppets with milk and toast…sounds good.
James Doohan will have lots of company…but he will be back.
——-“Doohan’s remains will be packed into a tube that is ejected from the rocket and expected to orbit Earth for 50 to 200 years.
Chafer said the remains of 200 other people from as far afield as Russia, Japan and Australia would also be on the flight.
“They literally come from all walks of life — from rocket scientists to restaurant owners and truck drivers. They were mostly people who were interested in space or anyone who just liked to walk out and look up at the stars at night,” said Chafer. ”
“Previous “memorial flights” have carried the remains of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry and 1960s counter-culture guru Timothy Leary. “
My review is here at: My review of I Robot film (in the Reviews Section)
Forgive them, Asimov, for they know not what they do.
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Hollywood Revisionism and Issac Asimov:
