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”Number wrote:

I’ve given your number one choice 10 points, your second choice 9 points down to one for your tenth favourite show and added up the points for each show from your lists (with the help of Excel — really it took very little time). Of course I could have done this any number of ways… So Babylon 5 is the most popular using this method (I may have made some mistakes here):

Babylon 5 (62 points)
Star Trek (TOS) 53
Lexx 44
Farscape 25
Star Trek (Next Gen.) 24
The Prisoner 24

Ahahahaha! There can be no mistake in your calculations, as The Prisoner is Number 6 again! 😆

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”Number wrote:

But I would appreciate any reviews or anything else. The ones I have completed, or have done a fair amount of work on are (working on several at once): Arrival (done), Free For All (up, but not nearly complete, every time I go to complete it the editor is down), The Chimes of Big Ben, The General, started on Dance of the Dead, and have most recently been working on A. B. & C. You can still do A. B. & C. if you want, I would like a diversity of reviews. Because I’ve already put quite a bit of work into it I will finish it. And I really want to do the final two eps since I’ve practically memorised them. The Girl Who Was Death is a fave of mine, but I don’t currebtly have access to that specific episode.

Wow! You’ve gotten pretty far! 😀

I only mentioned A,B and C because it reminds me of the Farscape episode. Hoszabout I do Hammer into Anvil and Living in Harmony. It might be fun to also do a review with speculative pics of The Outsider and Don’t Get Yourself Killed. Then Sad’s would be the only place with a working guide to all 19 episodes. 😆 Assuming I can get my Corel to save again; Edit: it only allows me to resize, convert, mask and add limited text. At least I got it up to that much. For some reason painting is too much for it and it crashes. 🙁

I know you like Sonja, so you should be the one to do The Girl who was Death, of course, when you get access to it again. I am still angry with that episode for being the one to convince me not to watch any more of the Prisoner in college. 😡 I don’t know where to begin with the final 2 on my own site, so you are welcome to those! In my mind, you’re smart!

So far (for my own reference) it looks like this:

Arrival
Free for All
Dance of the Dead
Checkmate
The Chimes of Big Ben
The Outsider
A,B and C
The General

The Schizoid Man
Many Happy Returns
It’s Your Funeral
A Change of Mind

Hammer into Anvil
Don’t Get Yourself Killed

Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darling

Living in Harmony
The Girl Who was Death
Once Upon a Time
Fall Out

…For that matter we could eventually throw in Colony Three and The Hunting Party. 😛

(Keep in mind I’ll be doing this at work, in my head, so that’s why I’m choosing eps I’ve practically memorised or that I can reference on break like the unused ones. Don’t expect much right away. They will be very different from the style I’m using on my site.)

”Number wrote:

There may be different sections we’d like to add as well. I’m particularly looking forward to the Cultures (“it’s very cosmopolitan”) which would partially focus on the classes of the Villagers (wards and wardens) and on the classes of the Villagers (Observers, Supervisors etc.). And of course there’d be a Village People section (or Numbers section). The ships one will be quite easy: the stone boat; rafts; etc.

You know, the cultures are pretty well deconstructed in the GURPS book, I could easily do a basic outline of that for you to play with how you liked (it would probably be better for me to send the basics and someone else to organise, since we don’t want me just to rehash the RPGuide), and if you changed “Ships” to “Technology” there would be plenty to cover.

I will get you the current Numbers list in a bit. 😀

Pet;D

P.S. Since you’re doing Dance of the Dead, did you know that Angela Lansbury dresses as Little Bo Peep at a masquerade ball in the Manchurian Candidate? They used a combination of drugs and light to brainwash the main character in that.

EDIT: This is my favorite! 😆

In A Change of Mind, is The Prisoner declared:

a) Unmutual.
b) Asexual.
c) Mind your own business.

[pet]

I know! I know! 😀

Now and Again[/url]

My friend is excited because they showed it on Sci-Fi and there is an ad for it on Trio in the US. Can’t tell you about elsewhere….

Dark Angel is out on Region 1 DVD, again, I don’t know about elsewhere…

I find the shows I say I like get cancelled, so in the interest of saving other people the heartache, I have stopped watching anything that hasn’t already been cancelled. (That’s how I know about the DA DVD.) 😉

Number 83;D

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sgtdraino wrote:

Gonna check your site out in about 2 minutes, but had to mention this before I forgot.

I for one love character guides to shows, and The Prisoner is my favorite show.

Also, with the thought in mind of making some sort of game, a while back I did video captures of EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER in The Prisoner, including EVERY villager whose number I could read. If you want any of those images, lmk and you can have them.

If you want, I’d also be willing to help out with righting the character bios.

Going to go look at your site now…

Hey, thanks for dropping by! There’s not much on the Prisoner yet, it’s mostly McGoohan’s overall career. Wish I had more time. I’m trying to flesh-out the Danger Man sections right now.

Did you Know Logan is heading up the new Sad Guide for the Prisoner here? I donated a character list of all the numbers I could find on the show and in the books and unused scripts, since he hasn’t had much other help yet, he could surely use pics to match! Would you be interested in donating to the guide?

I put a limited number of pics in the downloads area, but it’s not nearly enough yet. 😉

Pet;D

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1. The Prisoner/ Space:Above and Beyond
3. Firefly
4. Futurama
5. Stargate SG-1
6. Farscape
7. Star Trek TOS
8. Babylon 5
9. Twin Peaks (does that count?)
10. Space 1999

Number 1 and Number 6 had great final episodes. Aggravating, but thought-provoking.

83;D

[pet]

I would like to add that perhaps newbies visiting would like to stop by the Hall of Records. In our Village you can choose your own Number! 😆

83 ;D

[pet]

Logan wrote:

From Never-Never Land to Nowhere Land:

…

His pixyland website (CLICK)[/url]

Inspired by Number 99’s thread HERE, if they were to remake the series (something some say will never happen “never, never, never say never again”), who would you cast as the new, new Number 2s?

Dude! That website is still there?! 😆 Awesome! I love that guy!

I would cast Dom Deloise (sp?) as the Leo McKern Number 2.

83;)

[pet]

Yowza!

I think we have a new candidate for the Sexiest Stars thread! Congrats! 😀

83;D

[pet]

Logan wrote:

Micro, I hope you’re doing alright; it is hard.

Pet, congratulations on getting listed on IMDB. What’s the process for getting listed there?

If you have a site of limited scope (i.e.devoted to one person or one movie or show, for instance) that’s informative and isn’t doing anything illegal or annoying, you apply under the “miscellaneous” category, and in 7 days to a month someone visits and approves or disapproves. I’ve heard people have been rejected for falsely claiming things as public domain, pop-ups, offensive fan fiction and being too wide in scope.

I thought mine was relatively normal, and the site that used to be there went under, so I gave it a shot.

83;D

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”Number wrote:

On a side-note, McGoohan himself has been called mysoginistic be some (sp?) because of his character’s attitude towards women: Can’t trust ’em. However, considering the high ranks that women were given in The Village (and many of the best roles in The Prisoner), I don’t buy it. Remember how Gene Roddenberry used a woman as No. 2 in the most excellent Star Trek pilot? But he was forced to change this? The Prisoner was way ahead of Star Trek when it came to gender roles.

Funny how people judge a man based on one character. I know people who hate him because he played Longshanks.

One of the things which impressed me about Danger Man, on which McGoohan had just as much influence over characterisation as the Prisoner (though not of the plots) was that the women weren’t just thrown in as action candy to give the hero a weakness. I hate that character in any film or TV show no matter who plays her!

That’s not to say that he doesn’t come to the aid of Damsels in Distress, but they are just as likely to rescue him. Perhaps the formula hadn’t been set in stone yet.

The women on Danger Man were heads of international corporations, assassins, ambassadors, leaders of vigilante groups, nuclear scientists, and master spies on both sides of the iron curtain. So were the men for that matter. So were the Asian, Indian, African, Central American and Middle Eastern characters of both sexes.

And the idiots and bimbos were just as likely to be men as women on that show, I might add.

I think if he was judged on Danger Man that belief would be totally different.

83;)

[pet]

Hey! Some Village person is putting words in my posts!

Not that I don’t agree with them, but much of my previous post was not put there by me. What is this technique called, Number 5? I am not familiar with it. 😆

83;)

[pet]

74 seconds main, but I am used to that where I live, 25 seconds light.

I think it would be a good idea to make light or a version of light the default for the initial hook. Then you can suck new addicts in by saying “Get access to the full featured pages when you register!” 😈

83;D

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SadGeezer wrote:

Great comments guys, still not sure though what constitutes Cult TV Sci Fi though….

Traditionally, my original subjective definition of Cult TV Sci Fi was that each series should have spaceships, aliens and hi tech. They should also be recognisable as ‘different’ from the norm. I would class the series ’24’ as cult TV Sci Fi though it doesn’t match some of the criteria above….. hence the request for input from you guys.

Perhaps it’s just evolving into “The Sadgeezer’s Guide to Cult and Sci-Fi TV”.

By your original definition, Firefly couldn’t be included as it has no aliens. Buffy certainly wouldn’t be here, nor the Prisoner. Everything here is at least either technologically advanced or has a speculative nature which helps it link in theme with the other shows.

But I think most importantly what all the shows featured here have in common is that they can be deconstructed to our hearts’ delight by people of different personality types without losing their hull integrity. The fact that many of the guides include “cultures” and various studies of technology should be a clue to that. You can’t do that with a non-cult show. Cult shows have writers who either plan multi-levels or return to previous themes to weave their shows together. I find that shows that fail to gain momentum don’t have this level of detail.

Is it really any wonder “Black Scorpion” and “The Chronicle” only get analyzed by one personality type and fade into obscurity?

Star Trek TOS can be picked apart both seriously and just for fun by different types of people from different angles and still be enjoyable. That makes it a cult show. I find that while TNG had more specific socially-relevant themes, it was really just a sci-fi action adventure in which the bad guy is revealed at minute 25, and the main character reaches the point of no return at minute 50, then everything is resolved by the top of the hour. That makes it not a cult show. Not that intelligent people don’t analyze it, but they all seem to be of limited personality type. (That’s not bad, just different.)

You could watch Buffy merely for action and entertainment as it carries a ditzy cover, but if you want to look for serious underlying themes threading everything together, they are there. In that respect it reminds me of She Wolf of London. That makes it a cult show. I might add the only reason I bought the disks was after strolling around this site and finding out there was more to it than “silly blonde kills vampire this episode, and this episode, and this episode”. I would not have given it another look otherwise.

As far as Stargate goes, I consider it cult even though it’s primarily episodic. You could watch many episodes as merely sci-fi action adventure, but the experience is enhanced by filling in the blanks in the backstory.

Of course, I have to believe that Stargate is a cult show because otherwise when Mr. Pet talks like T’ealc in public he would be insane. Clearly. BTW he ordered Sci-Fi again just to see it this summer. Only the influence of a cult could have gotten him to do that. GRRRRR! But I am still not watching TV. I will only watch Stargate on tape if Bastet shows up. She’s my favorite goddess so I’m curious to see how they would portray her. But I digress.

Though it would certainly not fit in here, Seinfeld has a cult following for the same reason. It has underlying themes which resurface and can be picked apart by different types of people. Without that attention to detail it would have been another Gang-of-Four sitcom in an apartment building. The Simpsons likewise has themes which resurface and references to popular culture which can be discussed ad nauseum by many different personality types. Just look at everything they find at The Simpsons Archive[/url]! Too bad Futurama[/url] was so badly treated by the schedulers, but at least their cult is still alive.

The more tired I am, the longer my posts get….

Anyhoo, it appears to me that the details behind the individual episode plots are what make a show cult or not, and whether someone who cares can pull them together in such a way as to inspire discussion beyond “yeah, that was a good episode, what’s on next?”

83;D

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”99″ wrote:

Is it true that the Lotus tended to overheat? I thought I remember reading that somewhere as well as hearing Number 6 refer to it.

I am quite sure anything that close to Number 6’s a** would overheat…. 😈

I love to see hubby build a Lotus, lovemobile or no, as long as I get to drive it. And get to hang my fuzzy dice. 😉

I am planning on building a Lotus, but I don’t think it’s going to be a lovemobile since it’s only 14cm long and I don’t have the right paint yet… I also need new X-acto knives and time to clear off my junk table and glue it together.

You could always just get one of these!

I have the Number 2 chair. It’s roomier on the inside than one would expect, but not roomy enough or sturdy enough for a loveseat unless you are of less than average height and width, so though it was designed for 2, it was not designed for two, nowamsane? 8)

One person and a cat fit perfectly. 🙂

Here’s my little Village Life Experience. I work in a factory and on the last day of the month, we label guitars with numbers to make it easier to know when we’ve hit goal. My neighboring co worker looked at his guitar and said ” I am the new Number 2.” I, of course had to ask, ” Who is Number 1? “. Unlike the Prisoner, it didn’t take me 17 episodes to find out who Number 1 was, and, no, it wasn’t me. He tells me ” You are Number 6. ” I pulled back the axesack on mine to discover that I actually had Number 6. I asked the guy on the other side of me what number guitar he had, and to my delight, he said in a loud voice, ” I am not a Number, I am a free man! “.

It’s always nice to know who your fellow Prisoners are. 😉 My husband used to work there. He made his escape, or so he thinks, but before he did, he used to wear a Number 6 badge on either side of his headphones. 😀

Sweet! 😀

83;D

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Logan wrote:

By the way, have you seen Excalibur by the director of ZardoZ? Excalibur, now there, I thought, was a good fantasy movie loosely based on Le Mort D’Arthur by Sir Thomas Malory, as well as other Arthurian texts (some Mary Stewart in there too).

There’s nothing like watching Gabriel Byrne in a full suit of armor make love to a woman to make one wonder how it could have been done…. yee-ouch!

I thought that heavy Wagner score really nailed that one down and enhanced the story for me, (though I don’t approve of his politics….)

(BTW: Did any of you other medieval buffs see the series the two actors who played “Arthur” and “Gueneviere” had after that, Covington Cross, I think it was…. Yet another show cancelled simply because I expressed an interest in it. :roll:)

I now return you to your originally scheduled thread… 😛

Pet;D

EDIT:

Logan wrote:

Oh, something you should really watch if you like Python and historical comedies is Black Adder! The first Black Adder series takes place during the Middle Ages. For more Black Adder info visit this thread: CLICK HERE

OMG! I just remembered I had this!!!

I can actually say quite certainly that the series was better than the 1951 book! 😀 I mean, this is hardly the type of witty writing one expects of a Blackadder:

Chapter One

THE MONTH OF MAY

LONG after it was all over, when he was an old man and a famous man-no less a personage than an Admiral of Her Majesty’s Navy-Tom Cathro wrote in a letter to a friend:

“I have seen much, I have done much; I have adventured in foreign lands and upon the high seas; I have been within a sight of death and wrestled with fear itself. But in all my long days of travel and travail I have known no such terror as gripped me in the heart long ago-long ago when I was a boy; and I encountered for the first time, face to face, the monstrous figure we knew as Blackadder. . . .”

Thus he wrote; and so the tale is told: pieced together in this first part from the fragments of old diaries and letters and other scraps of writing which have come into my hands, and from gossip and hearsay in the village where Tom lived, and where his descendants still live-the village that was the headquarters of the dreaded Loblolly Boys, where the honest folk barred up their doors as the Moonshine went stealthily by-where to this day, they say, on stormy cloud-wracked nights, the great crooked evil figure of Blackadder himself can still be glimpsed on the headland, his arms flung up to the sky, his white face twisted in an eternal rage. . . .

It began, Tom used to say, on an afternoon in May of the year 1803, which ever afterwards was known to him and his friend Harry de Rohan as the Terrible Year.

Where are the insults? Where are the novelty breasts and the turnip that looks like a thingy? Where is the cunning plan?

[pet]

”Number wrote:

Why haven’t they filmed Asimov’s Foundation series yet?

Yeah, Wotupwitdat? 😕 And why hasn’t his “Immortal Bard” become an Outer Limits ep? (“The Immortal bard was a story which takes place at a University faculty party, one of the physicists explains to a literature professor that he invented a time machine, but it only works by bringing people to the present from the past. As it turns out, he had brought Shakespeare forward and enrolled him in class, but the lit professor had flunked him.)

I always thought Stephen R Donaldson’s “The Real Story” would be very cinematic if told in flashback. On the surface what the universe sees is beautiful woman who is being held captive by a gross little smuggler getting rescued by a swashbuckling space pirate, but the real story is totally different. There are hardly any characters in it, and the personalities get so deep that it always struck me as perfect for an indie film… but there’s no way Hollywood could pull it off.

They would turn it into a story about a beautiful woman who is being held captive by a gross little smuggler getting rescued by a swashbuckling space pirate. 😡

Pet;D

[pet]

I thought the original Dune (have not seen much of the new ones) was better than the book, but I have spent so much time with refugees, immigrants and defectors that reading anything which requires its own dictionary is a little tedious.

Starship Troopers and Tank Girl come to mind as better on film, possibly because of their taste of self-parody.

Then there is the question of general appeal. Kenneth Branagh and Robert DeNiro’s Frankenstein I would say was more appealing than the novel, but only because that penny-a-word 19th century style is sometimes a bit much even if you like that sort of thing. I don’t think it necessarily makes it better overall, but not worse. (Besides, anything with John Cleese in it is bound to be at least as good as the source material! 😉 )

(But I was surprised to find that someone was able to make reading the middle-English Beowulf more appealing than a movie version by attempting to put Christopher Lambert in a sci-fi version of it. Does he have to say “I cannot die” in everything now? 🙄 )

Pet;D

[pet]

Whoo-hoo! Stopped by to say I got listed in the IMDB!
Internet Movie Database

”Micromary” wrote:

WOW, Pet. It looks like a lot of fun. I’ll have to check it out when I feel like playing again. 😥

MM
(mourning momcat)

Oh, no! 🙁 I had not seen that news! I wish there was something I could say to make you feel better, but I know there’s nothing anyone could say that would make me feel better. 😥 My heart is with you….

83

[pet]

YAY! I actually got to say within the first five minutes of work last night:

I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A PERSON!

They changed everything we used to initial into our employee number! And now that I’ve discovered my inner number thanks to Instant Social Conversion, it doesn’t bother me at all! :D:D:D

I get to sign things by number! How cool is that?! 😆

_________________________

In response to Priscilla, KNEEL BEFORE ZOD![/url] (One of my favorite sites)

83;D

[pet]

”3.1415….” wrote:

(as a side note: how has Mr. Pet taken this…..I remember him posting something about it in an earlier thread….. 8) ).

Hmmm… must have been when he found the jacket or the No 2 chair? Number 6’s techniques have been added to his bag of work tricks along with those of Kaiser Soze and Tyler Durden.

That reminds me! I never finished my review of the chair! D’oh!

”Number wrote:

I’m amazed that you had the patience to do so much great stuff before officially unveiling it — it’s far more than adequate as a finished “piece”. Impatient me would’ve officially opened it as soon as I had the site’s title worked out. 😀

I didn’t keep it completely secret…. 😉

It’s a very well-balanced site; cerebral, informative, and fun. My beef with many sites is that they’re either: altogether dryly academic; altogether silly (silly is my particular forte); overly enthusiastic without any apparent critical powers (the “fan site” where people are “blinded” by the light of their favourite “star” or show); or the most boring, those with nothing but endless “laundry lists” of appearances and whatnot. 🙄

So I don’t sound like I’m gushing? Please point it out if I do! I’m trying very hard to be balanced. I’ve found some bad movies of his, but I haven’t found any bad performances. I think Tim Roth and Gary Oldman are the same way. (Even in his first movie role he seems to have taken a stand in not calling the dog by name, which is the only reason I’m glad I have the uncensored one, or I never would have known.)

If it was me, for instance, trying to do it, well “Less work, more play!” springs to mind — a personal tendency. Ah, but then if some of it were to be written at work, then it could be both work and play! 😀

I could not possibly do less work, though I would like more play. Last night I was at work 12 hours. I did 4 calibrations at less than 45 seconds apiece, and I wrote 5 reviews and a shopping list in my head and started toying with “Everything I need to know…” . Something did finally break down while I was at lunch, but someone else fixed it before I got back. 🙁 I didn’t even get to touch a screwdriver.

Someone found a mouse pointer which looked like a running horse and installed it on one of the computers, but it was discovered and changed back within a few hours, so we lost our only entertainment….

Oops! But thanks to Instant Social Conversion it was all just a dream and I can now get back to work at the Fun Palace! :D:D:D Thank you, ISC!

Why is is the more tired I am, the longer these get?

83;D

[pet]

Thanks, guys, you should probably only go if you have time to surf or have something in mind to look at…. it will take time to wade through with the clips and all. Wish I had had more time to do the Prisoner Deconstruction before opening, but I made promises and it was not to be.

Fatguy wrote:

(have to check in at work even though I got the week off :x)

That’s funny, I have to work in my Village even when I have the day off (“voluntary” days….)

Logan wrote:

So glad it’s officially open! 😀 It’s brilliant! Really, it’s a remarkable achievement… intelligent, entertaining, informative…

Love the way you’ve done the reviews, the way you’ve cross-referenced related material; all the related information. The multimedia is amazing, I still say that the Colony Three trailer is one of the best made trailers I’ve ever seen — and I’m a fan of the art of trailers. The Simpsons is hysterical! So many amazing clips, the strangling Alexis Kanner one’s very good, Hysteria…

Love your Danger Man section! As well as the section on McGoohan’s movies and television, plus The Prisoner section of course. 😀 BTW, have you considered a McGoohan biography or something that could include his non-TV/movies work (plays etc.)? But there’s so much to explore at the site, I don’t know what surprises I’ll find — so very much to savour! 😀

Also, thanks for the sadgeezer links, this site and this forum is very priviliged to have someone of your calibre around!

Your site is unique, I haven’t seen another site quite like it anywhere. Truly marvelous; it honestly is my favourite Prisoner site around, and my favourite Danger Man site, and my… It’s my favourite Patrick McGoohan site. Rich in media, and rich in overall content; amazing work, 83! 😀 😀 😀

You are too kind. Can I hire you to do my promos? 😀

Isn’t that strangling scene brilliant?!! So intense!

I haven’t seen another like it either. He really needed something more comprehensive. It’s hard to find anything but passing mentions about his movies, but then, they are up against the Prisoner, and by default Danger Man. You would not believe how many things between the movies, Danger Man and the Prisoner I haven’t cross-referenced yet. I have a drawer full of notes on mismatched paper, paper napkins and some rubber gloves I wear in my Village.
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Things I have considered once the reviews are done, tell me if y’all would like to see any:

1. Bio (but there are a lot of them on the net already…. may just link.)

2. Quotes from critics about the older films.

3. Clip of the Month (In near-DVD quality for downloading and keeping?)

4. Is John Drake Number 6? article with quotes from books.

5. Guide to morse code, invisible ink, microdots and other silly spy tricks used in Danger Man and the Prisoner.

6. Nowhere Man Guide

7. Other Villages: a page comparing clips from movies and TV with Prisoner clips, like the unsatisfied maids from Arrival vs the Invisible Man episode, or the “Unauthorised thought process” scene from Fortress vs. A, B and C.

8. A theoretical academic study which explains to a new Number 2 how applying Maslow’s hierarchy to Number 6’s profile would result in a more effective approach when combined with the first nine levels of Psychological warfare as long as the “Hand of God” barrier between types 3 and 4 was taken into consideration.

9. A password-protected Fall-Out Spoiler area. There are parallels with other performances of his which should be addressed, but I don’t want to do them within the reviews for fear of giving something away.

Mr. Pet suggested (by his Village behavior more than by actual suggestion):
10. The New Number 2: How to manage your Manager using techniques from the Prisoner.
11. Everything I Need to Know I Learned from Number 6.

Oh, and maybe a flash game that takes place on Your Village Map. So many ideas, so little time….

Be Seeing You….
83;D

P.S. Prisoner Paintball/Tag is in the final stages of play-testing, so that page should be up soon!

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”Micromary” wrote:

😯 😮

*Number Nine sees the words “bondage” and “McGoohan” in the title*

*Tries hard to hide her mental images!* 😳

Who needs mental images? I have a pic of that! 😈

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*THUD*

83;D

[pet]

Logan wrote:

…. The work we arrange for them is invariably mindless assembly line work — nothing like being an automaton to take one’s mind off one’s problems.

And there’s nothing like calibrating machines for automatons in the Control Room to make one snap. I rotate into an automaton position about every 4 days, and it is far preferable to my usual position.

Quite literally, I sit and wait for things to break. No doodling, no writing, email on receive only, no unreasonably distracting conversation (as if anyone can hear us), no windows, no outgoing phone lines. They even disabled all the screensavers except the text version saying what Cell I’m in. (And it is called a cell. Hm. There’s another one.)

I sit with my cheek resting on my hand for hours at a stretch, writing essays in my head, hoping for something to break or for one of the automatons to forget something. We sometimes have contests to see who can play dead the best. My eyes dry too fast.

At other times I can’t take it anymore and I sing show tunes, bad country, U2 or specifically “Secret Agent Man” or “Yo Way Yo” at the top of my lungs, but only if Number 21 is around to help because she has the loudest out-of-tune voice on the planet and it’s more fun that way. Or I just scream. AAAAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!! So many people do that, no one even pays attendion anymore.

I’ve been told I can’t play hopscotch. 🙁 Pretending to walk the plank is okay for now.

Here’s another thing… Administration added a password to print labels for packaging. It appears Security is worried someone will break into the Village and make off with a bunch of labels with the time and date printed on them.

Oh, and Wednesday my lunch was confiscated again, but so was my Number 2’s. They made a new rule and had to make an example. 🙄 But the Work Units are good….

Thanks to Instant Social Conversion it’s all just a dream now. When I wake up I work in the Fun Palace. 😉

But, Number Nine, my Village did get slapped with a fine when they refused entry to a worker who had just had foot surgery on the grounds that her wheelchair would be too dirty for the cleanroom. Some Village attitude can be overcome! 😀

83;D

[pet]

Homer would be a lot thinner if he had to compete with Giggy for food…. 😈

[pet]

Can you beat this! 😀

Signed picture (which has different note on it than on shown) says “Oooops! Sorry, I can’t help myself” and then shows a small drawn cloud of flatulance.

😆 😆

All those classy Lexx autographs and one of them like that! How super, super funny! 😆

(I won’t tell which one it is…. you guys will have to find it like I did!)

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I’d consider it, but I’m still suffering from terror of possible Portmarionation.

😯
*screams*
*faints*

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My favorite stand-alone episode is Hammer Into Anvil, mostly because it’s the method I use to drive certain anal types insane. I love the quiet determination Number 6 uses to crack Number 2, and the little smile he carries throughout… making it look like he’s conspiring with Number 2’s lackey, listening to parts of all the same record, and the “Visual Signal”:

.–. .- – .- -.-. .- -.- .
.–. .- – .- -.-. .- -.- .
-… .- -.- . .-. … — .- -.
-… .- -.- . — . .- -.-. .- -.- .
.- … ..-. .- … –
.- … -.– — ..- -.-. .- -.

Each one cracks me up every time! I find it very inspiring.

Speaking of which, anyone ever try switching the “I” and “O” keys on your Number 2’s computer? 😈

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This is from the unused script “The Outsider”, my favorite Rover phrase is highlighted. It used a sense of smell and had a different way of killing as well….

EXT: FOREST. DAY.
P RUNS, MOMENTARILY OUT OF ROVER’S REACH.

EXT: A CLEARING IN THE FOREST.

DM.

THE GUARD REGAINS CONSCIOUSNESS. HE LOOKS AROUND SEARCHING FOR P, SEES THE JACKET AND PICKS IT UP. A HORRIFIC SNARL MAKES HIM TURN HIS HEAD.

EXT: A CLEARING IN THE FOREST. HIS P.O.V.
DM.

ROVER IS HOVERING ABOVE HIM, ITS LIGHT BLINKING AND FLASHING.
THE SNARL REACHES A SPINE-CHILLING PITCH.

EXT: A CLEARING IN THE FOREST. DAY.
THE GUARD, TERRIFIED, TRIES TO RUN AWAY, STILL CLUTCHING THE JACKET. ROVER CLOSES IN.
EXT: FOREST. DAY.
P STILL RUNNING – WHEN A HORRIFIC SCREAM TEARS THE AIR. P PAUSES MOMENTARILY, THEN CONTINUES
ON HIS WAY.

EXT: A CLEARING IN THE FOREST. DAY.
ROVER HAS CAUGHT UP WITH THE GUARD, LEAVING IN ITS WAKE A PULPED MASS. THE JACKET NOW IN ITS POSSESSION, ROVER MOVES TOWARDS THE VILLAGE.

They started out simple and cheap, but look what happened after the show ended! 😮

According to the novels, (which were written before the show was ever broadcast in color), Rover was only the name of the killing Guardian which roamed the land, and he was beige, the others were different pastel colors and subdued but never killed.

There is also one which roams along the ocean floor, wrinkled because of the water pressure, killing anything which moves (there are no fish or seaweed in the water). When they arrive in the Village they are about the size of soccerballs until they are trained and grown. They can also be modified so that Number 2 can see, hear, speak through and manouever them.

One of the Number 2’s, once he is demoted to Number 100 for trying to escape with Number 6, explains that they are colloidal mechanisms which run on a fluidic principle, and they are aware but not self-aware.

The Village Files describes their external structure as “Malleable Pseudo-Geodesic Euclidian Sphere utilising homopolymer/ copolymer blends”, (is that not just a balloon? 😀 ) and their primary sensory apparatus involves, “Shape and movement discrimination with visible light, infrared wavelength and optical recognition capabilities”.

Clearly they are much more complex than I thought! 😀

(This Information is for Village personnel only.)

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CUTE!!!

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IMHO, he’s really in for it now.

I usually refuse to engage in political conversation as well, BUT….

In another “Marriage policy” news, Israel has declared that Palestinians who marry Israeli citizens must live apart or leave the country for the next year, has anyone else seen that yet? Did I read that right?

WTF is up with the governments lately telling people who they are allowed to fall in love with?! 😡

(Where’s that rant smiley when you need it?!)

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Futurama:

Bender:
I’m very generous. What about that time I gave blood?
Fry:
Whose blood?
Bender:
Some guy’s.

_____________
Fry:
Hmm…I’m not sure we wanna pay for a dimension we’re not gonna use.

_____________

Bender: You know, Fry…Of all the friends I’ve had, you’re the first.

_____________

Space Above and Beyond:

“With all due respect, Chaplain, I don’t think ‘our Maker’ wants to hear from me right now, because He knows I’m about to go out in His sky with this plane and remove one of His creations from His universe. And when I return, I’m gonna drink a bottle of Scotch as if it was Chiggy Von Richtoven’s blood, and celebrate his death.”

“Guy? I am not your guy! I am not your Joe, I am not your damn drinking buddy, and I sure as hell am not a mark in a singles bar!”

“There’ll be plenty of time to rest when I’m dead. ”

—Lt. Col. McQueen (all 3)

“Women and sex are like spaceflight mechanics. So women, like flight, are relative. It’s going to differ depending on your velocity and destination.”

—Nathan West

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Fifth Element:

Officer:
Sir, are you classified as human?
Dallas:
Uh, negative. I am a meat popsicle.

Leeloo: …jella boom!
Korben Dallas: Boom. Yeah! I understand boom.
Leeloo: Bada boom.
Korben Dallas: Big..yeah, big bada boom.
Leeloo: Big! Bada big boom! Big! BOOM!
Korben Dallas: Yeah! Big bada boom!
Leeloo: Bada boom!
Korben Dallas: Yeah-hahaha! Big boom! Big bada boom!

(Alright, I just wanted to say “Bada Boom!” 🙂 )

Ruby:
What was that? IT WAS BAD! It had nothing! NO FIRE! NO ENERGY! NO NOTHING! You know I have a show to run here, you know? Hmm? Hmmm? And it must pop, pop, POP! So tomorrow from five to seven, will you please act like you have more than a two word vocabulary?
______________________

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Well Come to the Village, Number 2 into 1 or 1 over 2! 😀 I’m glad your Arrival was uneventful!

May “why?” be her first word! Teach her early that Individuality is the expression of Revolt against Society! 🙂

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My favorite quotes are anything to do with how stupid cabbages are and:

When They ask in my Village, “Since your area is shut down next week, do you want to work in area A or B?” and when you pick A They say, “Well, we didn’t really want to do that, are you sure you wouldn’t rather work in B?”

or some other nonsense… like this memo given to my Number 2 this week: “We want employee feedback regarding _______. Please choose a group with a positive attitude.”

I often respond with, “We’re democratic… in some ways.”

I also rather like this one:

BTW, your Arrival review is masterful! Your style with the witty commentaries fits right in here with all the other EG’s. I’d never be able to manage that long an essay about it; I’d be editing forever. (Writing it, I mean. Reading it was quite easy!)

I especially enjoyed this:
Stay tuned for more escape attempts, more sexy unsatisfied women, and more terrifying ball action. Same Sad guide, same Sad channel.

I can hardly wait for more ball action! 😀

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Edit: forgot my number! Sorry! 😳

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”Trini_T” wrote:

Pet! Please check your P.M.”S! Thanx, Trini!

Okey Dokey, but you forgot something, so please check yours!

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Logan wrote:

Hmm, super-top-secret-project, sounds mysterious. IMDB? Don’t you mean the MIDB (Military Intelligence Data Base)?

That would be telling…. oops! wrong forum… um… I’ll incinerate you with lasers from my eyes!

For your eyes only: I say this in strict security… I overheard one of the Observers saying that Number 2 is suspected of being unmutual and must be flushed out! I suggest you keep your Village plunger handy! 😉

<beavis>

Heh Heh… you said Number 2….

</beavis>

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That site says so; can’t wait to see that one…

Michael Caine played a character called “Number 6” in the episode of William Tell called “The Prisoner” in 1957, as well.

8) Hmmmmm…

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*GASP* No Blackadder?

I can answer a bit of that, Blackadder is a British historical comedy starring Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean). It ran for 4 seasons, plus a Christmas special and a little mini-series type thing and a made-for TV movie and such. At the end of each season, (mostly) Edmund Blackadder dies and is reincarnated as himself in a later life, gradually moving down the Karmic scale due to his conniving, sarcastic attitude.

In Blackadder I (1485) he is a medieval prince (His father is hilariously played by Brian Blessed), then Blackadder II (1558-1603) he’s a lord at the mercy of someone obviously meant to be Queen Elizabeth. Blackadder III (1768-1815) he’s a butler to the prince regent, and in Blackadder goes Forth (1917) he’s a grunt in the army during WWII. Probably because of some unexpected heroics at the end of Blackadder goes Forth, in Blackadder Back and Forth (the movie), he steps up a notch as scientist who invents a time machine.

His cronies follow him through time as well. His servant Baldrick (Tony Robinson) is always one step lower than he is.

Amazingly the surrounding details of the humor are historically accurate. One woman only considers buying Blackadder’s flat when she learns he craps out of a window because she can’t stand “those messy indoor things”. In another instance he is prescribed leeches by a doctor who is subsidized by the owner of the biggest leech farm in Europe. It has a lot of dirty/ ribald humor for regular viewing, but it’s one of those things which even gets better if you’ve read a few books.

It’s available as a complete DVD set and often gets shown on BBCA or PBS in the States. Don’t know about elsewhere.

Blackadder II is my favorite. I think the character was at his wittiest then, Tim McInnerny’s character was at his most idiotic, and Queenie was so well played by Miranda Richardson. This was also the season which introduced comedic masters Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie to the cast, if I remember right.

Hey, lexxrobotech, what is Everwood, if you don’t mind? I think I heard the name bevore, but I can’t place it.

I will admit to liking Magnum PI. And MacGuyver. I wonder if I would like them now?

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”Micromary” wrote:

*Micro reads this topic and passes out*

😯

THUD

Logan wrote:

Where were McGoohan’s moral values then? 😯

That’s nothing, check these out: 😀

(Different movie….)

*swoons*
THUD

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The more I’ve been thinking about it, the more I think he did it, at least in part, to throw a monkey wrench into his Mythical status. It’s not like he wasn’t being offered roles left and right after that “science fiction” masterpiece Braveheart….j/k.

My favorite line of McGoohan’s– Amanda Plummer’s character is in a wheelchair. Frye asks Langston what is wrong with her legs, and Langston replies: “Why, nothing! This is a madhouse, not a hospital!”

My favorite line of Plummer’s– “Society is the greatest asylum of them all.”

Someone just put one up on Ebay again if anyone’s interested. I think it’s only ever been released NTSC in Canada, and it’s out of print.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3337463882

It usually sells pretty cheap there and at Amazon… I wonder why? 😯

Number 83

P.S. According to what site?

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Ah! Methinks this should have been a poll…

Vote! Vote! Vote!
Six! Six! Six!

No. 83 ;D

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Logan wrote:

I’ve had a Change of Mind — there is a serious conflict of interest with me becoming Number 6. The conflict being that many individuals are interested in drooling over The Prisoner, and they aren’t over me. How very, very sad. 🙁

Whaaaa?! Shirley, you must be joking… just look! !!

http://www.med.ru/vika/Link.htm

No, to avoid said confusion, I would now like to be known as Number 5 — it’s too perfect for Logan 5! 😀

That is a good one! Wouldn’t have thought of that….

Now both Logan and MM have their own cottages, whilst I have to live in the apartments by the Palace of Fun 🙁 . But at least I only have one camera in my bathroom! Enjoy those showers…. 😈

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Logan wrote:

Anyway, since no one has taken it, I really want to be No. 6! Can I, can I please?! 😀 I mean the similarities are remarkable! We both drive KARs (well I drive an SUV but close enough), No. 6 is a number and I have a Social Insurance Number and ahh… Well isn’t that enough? 🙄 The only major difference, and it’s a biggie, is that No. 6 does not want to be any number, and I do. So if the real No. 6 doesn’t want it… 😉

Except that the reason I chose 83 (drum roll, please) was because she is assigned the insurmountable task of pleasing Number 6 in order to graduate as a Pleasure Hostess in the unused script “The Outsider”.

(One guess as to why this juicy script might have been rejected by McGoohan…. 😈 )

If Number 96 becomes Number 6,, who does Number 6 become? 😳 Will I still get to iron the former Number 6’s shirts?! 😕

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There are shows that aren’t Sci-Fi?! 😯

Get that man into Bonnie Hammer’s office…stat! He needs Sci-Fi Channel re-education!! All is Sci-Fi if Bonnie says it’s Sci-Fi!

Me, no TV. Tried the Saint, nothing doing. Currently, when I have time, Horatio Hornblower, which I originally thought was porn, and my daily dose of Danger Man.

*THUD*

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Well, this wasn’t my original intention, but I just received “The Village Files”,

(which I ordered from the UK the same day I ordered another book from Amazon in the US, and it arrived before my US order… which isn’t due to arrive until Friday, and since it’s UPS there will likely be an exception and it will arrive Monday… but that’s beside the point…)

and although some of the details are speculative at best… (Reactive Orange-alert Vigilant EnforceR? 🙄 )

according to the list,

Beatles Fan Micromary is a “Special Case Prisoner”, so she gets her own cottage with all the comforts of home.
Moderator Logan is in the class of General Observers. That is telling….
And the rest of us (with Numbers) are general level prisoners, warders and support personnel (which according to another book means we get a basic-living arrangement apartment.)

Party at MM’s! Waddyou say! I’ll bring the potatoes and the aspirins! 😀

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Logan wrote:

pet wrote:

<geek mode>

He lives in flat 6 in Danger Man.

</geek mode>

Well that’s just flat out cool! 😀

<greek mode>

His favourite food is lamb sixkabobs!

</greek mode>

Sorry, now I’m just getting silly. :P[/quote]

<greek mode>

Well he is the gyro of the show!

</greek mode>

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<geek mode>

He lives in flat 6 in Danger Man.

</geek mode>

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Logan wrote:

I believe that on this board it’s best to stick to one user-name, but in this forum we’re really all just numbers.

Well said, 96! 😀
Be Seeing You!

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Didn’t the Frey post something in this thread before about having 1 username all over the net, or at least in places with crossover populations (assuming your usual one isn’t taken)? Of course, you needn’t use the same one for your needlework newsgroup and your Lexx posts, but posts here and at other Sci-Fi sites I prefer to know who people are. Otherwise it can get creepy when you don’t know someone’s motivation for it.

I suppose in a clearly-marked 1st person fan-fic scenario it seems okay to me for a character to post, but I would like to know who the real author is.

Anyhoo, I agree with the one-name-for-all thing. (I did see that somewhere, was it another thread?)

(Or you could try one name for two ppl, like I have a Lexx.com on many occasions, but I don’t do that here. I think Mr. Pet posted unregistered once or twice, but he only generally comes to Sad’s when I send him Firefly and SG-1 news. 😛 )

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Ahh! That’s better….

Actually, the unmentionable word you coined is so cute I might actually manage to watch it, but those things used to give me nightmares. My grandmother had a guestroom with built-in display cases for her doll collection. And when you turned out the lights, the lights in the cases would turn on and you would wake up in the middle of the night and see their earrings moving like they had just stopped whispering to each other….

*shiver*

I just have a thing about dolls….

*shudder*

Especially the ones that move on their own….

*breathes into paper bag*

Although I will have no problem whatsoever with a Port**** Rover. 😀

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streudel wrote:

….Portmarionation….

*screams*

*mumbles to self “John Drake covered in honey…. John Drake covered in honey…”*

*relaxes, calmly rereads post*

*thinks about Portmarionation”

*screams*
😯
*faints*

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Then how ’bout “Objects in this shirt are larger than they appear?”

I went with What’s not to love, as well. It sums it up nicely, though they all look professional.

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Actually, if we’re going for movies, too, I’d have to go with Kurt Russell in Soldier. I have never seen a more perfect chest in my life!

*THUD*

Wish I had a good pic of that, but no time to search or cap.sigh.

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