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MM playing Jonathan Edward:
I’m getting a message now… your mother says the man who wore this shoe wore really small rubbers…. 😈
83;D
99’s a number, and they have those automatic doors….
I would say that’s acceptable. Numbers are so limiting, and since the Village is so cosmopolitan there’s no reason Maxwell Smart wouldn’t have been sent there eventually…. 😀 Ah! The horror! 😀
If I could only get that song out of my head now that you brought it up…. 😛
83;D
I thought it was the Butler, too, mostly, then sometimes one of the Rovers. Remember the scene with the creepy people in the Rover cave sitting around it as if they were worshipping it in “Free for All”? I thought it might be some underground Hell creature, or something.
No.83;D
I would agree with Barbarella as a single-shot Sci-Fi Sexy Queen, but Lexx and Firefly have more choices as far as groups of sexy people.
Kai’s cute, but he doesn’t do it for me. I would not dare fight Streudel for him :), why don’t you lead Kai over there to the closet with you, and I’ll take Number 6 out to the clearing with me…. 😀
(Where’d I put that honey? 😛 )
Pet;D
(No.83)There’s a chance! Bean Meets Bond!
Did y’all know about this? I’m a little out of touch now that I don’t watch TV….
http://www.johnny-english.com/
Pet;D
Logan wrote:Pet, there certainly is something for this guy in The Prisoner:
And there’s something decidedly Eva Habermannesque about her.
I dunno, I would say there’s more Vlad in her than Zev, aside from this outfit, that is.
Wouldn’t “Lady Death” and Kai make a cute couple? Though I admit I would be afraid to attend the reception….
I guess I was really referring to recurring characters. The Taxi driver in Arrival, Little Bo Peep and Number 86 are all quite cute, but barely appear. And how could we forget the most luscious of the Number 2’s?
😈
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(No.83)Hee Hee! Zooropa. How’ bout these lyrics:
Alex Descends into Hell for a Bottle of Milk, U2: A Clockwork Orange, the musical
Oooohhhhh
OoooOOOOOooooooOOOooooohhh
Oooohoooooohhhoooooooo
Aaaaaahh
ooooooo 😀 😀 😀Pet;D
P.S. Actually, I’m kinda surprised someone voted for “somewhat references”. Who knew?! 🙂 I was kinda being silly about the 4th and 5th lines in each stanza, and lines Number 1 and 6 being the same.
This deconstruction thing is sorta fun when you do it without any serious intent! I’m going to go out now and reinterpret the meaning of the stop sign at the next block to suit my own belief system. Wish me luck!
Overall? It’s not one of the choices, but Firefly, most definately, good variety, something for everyone, and they wear really, really tight pants….
I’ll be in my bunk. 😈
But personally, the Prisoner has my man in it: brains, unshakeable loyalty, boundless energy, overdeveloped sense of justice (but not the type who pretends to fight just to hear himself talk), the voice of the Devil and eyes too blue for God to have made… that combo does it for me.
Not too much for the guys in that show, though, or for the ladies who aren’t interested in prefacing an interrogation of Number 6 by smearing him with a honey glaze….
So yes, I would still have to recommend Firefly. Or Lexx if you go for the not-fully-human crowd.
Pet;D
(No.83)P.S. Ack! Did I just type that out loud?! 😀
Logan wrote:”elmey” wrote:…Think of the village….and then think of us:
Are we not ALL wearing the same clothes?
Are we not ALL listening to the same music?
Are we not ALL watching the same movies and TV shows?
Are we not ALL eating the same fast food?I know I’m wearing my official No. 6 blazer right now with one of those nice straw boaters (hats) while listening to “All You Need is Love” and watching The Prisoner, and eating some drugged fast food (i.e. “speed”) Okay, maybe I’m exaggerating, I’m not taking any speed (maybe I should, I’ve been feeling particularly slow the last few days). 😉
[/quote]I’m wearing my piped jacket while listening to “I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape” coming from the radio in my fridge, watching my video of Dr. Syn, and I never eat fast food. My food stays right where I put it. I don’t know where you’re getting your food, but if it’s fast, you either haven’t cooked it long enough or it’s been in the fridge too long.
”Elmey” wrote:BTW–have you been to Disney World? I swear it’s like being in the Village. It would be the perfect place for a fan convention if you can’t make it to Portmeiron
Ha Ha! They actually mention that in one of the books! 😆 I just got to that part last night! It’s also the book with No. 7 in it! (Though a little disappointing in other ways….)
Logan wrote:Pet, yes! Actually, I’m thinking about making my own very short Prisoner Indie film in stop-motion with dolls, and if I ever get around to it I will stay true to McGoohan’s creative vision. So if there are any rabid eccentric millionaires out there… 😉
Ack!
NOOOOOOOO!!!
Please don’t go for supermarionation! They are an abomination! Kill ’em all!!!
Aaaarrgghhh! 👿 😯 👿 😮 👿
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”#7″ wrote:I hope I never see ‘The Prisoner’ givin the Hollywood treatment. As if I want to see some flavor of the month playing #6. 🙄
….And I really don’t want to see a car chase knocking over a fruit cart and a token love interest who is thrown in for no other purpose than to provide a weakness for the hero. I also don’t want to see Kevin Costner, the first rumor. I watched that guy for ten minutes in something and he didn’t change facial expression once! Amazing!
I think the only way this could be done is if a rabid eccentric millionaire Prisoner fan handed over some money to McGoohan so he could start an Indie film from the ground up in his own image.
(Did I remember to get my lottery ticket this week?! :D)
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(Pet Enters Geek mode…..)
Is No. 6 John Drake?
McGoohan did say Drake was Number 6 in a squash game with his stunt coordinator Frank Maher when he was pitching the idea and in a meeting with George Markstein in which they decided not to name Drake because it was going to be expensive. (The Prisoner by Dave Rogers, p.No. 2.)Since they figured out how expensive it would be, McGoohan has denied it. But before then, even before the hour-long series began, he always had it in his mind that Drake would resign if he found a woman to marry. No. 6 both resigned and got engaged, so personally I think Drake becomes No.6.
Is Drake Gay?
“He sometimes rebels against the missions he is given. He now looks at women with much more interest, for one of them could be the lucky girl who will persuade him to leave the job and find some other less dangerous way of making a living.” — Patrick McGoohan in an ITC press kit.
(Quoted in The Prisoner: A Televisionary Masterpiece edited by Alain Carraze, in the article “Danger Man” by Jacques Baudou, p.No. 206.)
(I have to thank a Drake Drooler for this next quote)
‘When the character logically indulges in torrid scenes, then I’ll play them, I don’t believe for one moment, though, that Drake would chase any of the girls he meets.
He is the sort of man who has a healthy enough respect for women to realise that it would not be fair on a girl to ask her to marry him while he is away on dangerous missions nearly all the time. His life is too full of risks, too insecure, too roving for Drake to ever fall in love. To do so would interfere with the life of adventure he has chosen. He would like to marry, and he has it at the back of his mind all the time – but it is something he has no intention of doing while risking his life so often. The fact that he is taking such risks is a vital element of the stories. With a wife in the background – and probably children as well – he would be tempted to cut down on the risks. Therefore it would affect his work. This doesn’t mean that he avoids women. He enjoys the company of pretty girls. And there are plenty of stories in the series showing him closely involved – with women. But only when the job calls for him to do so. ” –Patrick McGoohan
The Drake character also mentions in “Don’t Nail Him Yet” that he’s wondering what it must be like to have a wife and children, while playing chess with a married agent in a less dangerous position. (He loses.)
He flirts mercilessly while posing as an encyclopedia salesman in “The Mirror’s New”, as an artist in “Sting in the Tail”, as a blackmailer in “The Black Book”. He allows a very persistent girl he obviously finds both attractive and trustworthy to follow him back to London when his mission is finished in “You’re Not in any Trouble, Are you?”, and he meets and allies himself with his perfect, though Soviet, match in “Parallel Lines Sometimes Meet”, though by the very nature of their Cold War loyalties that relationship is doomed from the get-go.
He gets played and heartbroken by a diplomat’s wife in one of the books that took place during the first season (when he worked for NATO). I believe the story was designed to explain his infamous suspicion of the women he meets in his line of work. So, yes, I think No. 6 is Drake, or at least he started out that way, but I think the evidence points to him being suspicious, with good reason given the way some of the bad girls try to cheat him, but not gay.
Uh… not that there’s anything wrong with that…. 😉
Neither, for that matter, do I think that a man who thinks any day he’ll be able to escape and go back to his fiancee is gay if he doesn’t flirt with the locals in the Village.
Pet;D
That is a mighty big gun….! 😀
It’s from the Columbo episode “Identity Crisis”. McGoohan and Neilsen play secret agents, and when Neilsen (“Geronimo”) winds up dead, Columbo suspects McGoohan (“Colorado”).
I believe there are 4 “Be Seeing You”‘s in it, but I haven’t really counted…. McGoohan directed it and Falk is a Prisoner fan, so there are more bits and pieces in it that are kind of funny. (Not as funny as this picture of No 6 with Frank Drebbin).
Did find out there’s a real Mrs. Columbo, as someone else witnesses a conversation between Columbo and his wife, so that mystery is solved… 😉
(His performance in “By Dawn’s Early Light” was much better, BTW… that’s the one he won an Emmy for, not this one.)
Pet;D
Life?! I spend much of my time pacing the length of my cage devising ways to jam the management (today by singing show tunes as if no one was listening– they don’t understand that at all) and rewriting my resume in my head. Most of my posts/PM’s here and html on my site are tapped out in a text file on my Ipaq on breaks and uploaded and edited in the morning when I get home. It doesn’t save as much time as I would like, but it does generally keep me from wandering about these addictive little nooks and crannies when I should be sleeping.
Tonight is an exception. I was arguing with Number 18 about which of us most likely won the lottery tonight, and was actually pulled aside by someone we call “Night Watch Number 16” and told that vocally refusing free recognition meals could be construed as displaying a negative attitude 🙄 .
Number 21 (an ally, though she accepted the meal) reminded me wryly it was “Appreciation Day” today, and as I had no intention of appearing “disharmonious”, she and I (disguised as Number 9) took some vacation time (since this was our scheduled day and not a “voluntary” mandatory day). I designed myself an “unmutual” bumper sticker, caught up on some email, then stopped by here to do a real post.
(How did the Prisoner so quickly overthrow my interest in Lexx? Oh, yeah, mandatory frelling overtime!)
Grrrrrr…….
Be Seeing You!
14071(puts foot down)
I am SO referring to my Manager as a Corporate-coprolite from now on!
(snicker) 😆
Pet;D
You’ve already seen these, Logan, but I’ll bite: 🙂
Be Seeing You: The high-ranking telepaths on Babylon 5 use the Village salute “Be Seeing You”.
The Chair: Simon Cowell appeared in a white Number 2 chair in last fall’s American Idol teaser ad. The Number 2 chair was also used in Austin Powers, wasn’t it?
Rover: Rover has appeared in 2 Simpsons episodes, The Computer Wore Menace Shoes, of course, and the one where the Simpsons join the cult (name I don’t remember). Some little Rover-like things were bouncing around in a Space:1999 episode, thought I think they contained information and weren’t guarding. For the life of me I can’t remember which one it was.
Other Villages: The Invisible Man featured a resignation episode that deliciously paralleled “Arrival”. Then there’s the Truman Show… and Nowhere Man….
Interrogation and Intimidation: The Pretender, John Doe and Farscape have done quite a few things which pieced together feel like Prisoner references to me. There are too many for me to pick out here, however, it’s probably best left to fans of those shows.
Four people I know independently recognized John Critonisms in the “Dreamy Party” scene of A, B and C, one eventually compared it to the season 2 episode: Won’t Get Fooled Again, like many episodes of the Prisoner it includes literary references as well (Hamlet in this case). http://www.farscapefantasy.com/215.html
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nursewhen wrote:There was an episode in Danger Man where he gets into a village in Russia which is just like an English village where they train spies.
You must mean Colony Three, Hee Hee!
http://tv.petserrano.com/dangerman/colony_three.asf
I don’t think it’s ever stated that it’s Russia or the Soviet Union, just that it’s Communist and 300 miles from anywhere else… though that could easily be Siberia, I suppose. 😆
Pet;D
I would say Ben Browder, but I think people have been torturing him for information without letting him go home for long enough….
Mr. Bean is actually Number 5 😈 in much the same way as John Drake is Number 6.
http://www.blackadderhall.com/library/prisoner.shtml
Pet;D
”Micromary” wrote:I’m sorry Pet, but I think Logan’s avatar has the cooler HAT! 😉
Yes, I would have to agree, but they are equally cute!
MM
(Help! I’ve lost my # and don’t know who I am!!)You could be pi. Are you pi?! Someone must be pi…. Everyone likes pi! 😆
Pet (Drake Drooler #48 ) ;D
Colin Gordon died in 1972, and was also in The Pink Panther and Casino Royale.
Eric Portman was ill during filming and passed away in 1969.
Rachel Herbert: Appeared in Danger Man.
Georgina Cookson: Appeared in Danger Man, UFO.
Anton Rogers: Appeared in Danger Man.
Andre Van Gyseghem: Appeared in Danger Man, The Saint.
Mary Morris: Appeared in Doctor Who and several period pieces.
Clifford Evans: The Saint, the Avengers and the movie Curse of the Werewolf.
Darren Nesbit: I hear he did a lot of British TV, but I dunno…. I think I would remember that face. I may have seen him in Danger Man, but I haven’t rechecked that episode.
Peter Wyngarde: Recurring role: Jason King, also appeared in Flash Gordon, Doctor Who, The Saint and the Avengers.
David Bauer: Appeared in the Saint, the Avengers, You only Live Twice, Diamonds are Forever, etc.
John Sharp: Recurring role: All Creatures Great and Small. Also appeared in Barry Lyndon, the Avengers.
Patrick Cargill: Appeared in the Avengers.
Kenneth Griffith: Appeared in Danger Man. Also probably the only Number 2 still working in the last decade and in several movies with names the public will recognize: Four Weddings and a Funeral, Shaka Zulu, The Lion in Winter, The Englishman who walked up a hill and came down a mountain.
Pet:D
Hmmm. I believe he only wears the badge in the Schizoid Man, when they are trying to convince him he’s Number 12, and in Free for All, when it has the ruffles on it for the election.
Logan. I think you have the same avatar as me… no you don’t… yes you do… no you don’t…. 😀
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Isn’t that funny? I thought it was “Party like snicks” until I was corrected the first time. 😀 But steaks seemed to make more sense, so I believed it without question! Hee Hee!
Pet;D
I experimented with a remix upload, and there is a “General preferences” limit. But mp3’s run about a MB a minute, so that file size limit is to be expected. They’re pretty huge.
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!The guy who flew down was ordered to “neutralize invaders for analysis”. We just assume they died. I would guess this statement would have evolved organically in the next season.
I didn’t want it to end, but that’s the kind of ending I like. I loved the ending of Das Boot, too, though. 😉 As far as I’m concerned, if it makes my jaw drop, it’s good. I didn’t like Natural Born Killers until I saw the original scripted ending of that, either. It’s too bad they cut it.
I wouldn’t say “fitting”. I don’t think that’s it, but it does have that Shakespearean tragedy quality in which everyone dies once their destiny is complete. “Fitting”, no, “heart-wrenching and thought-provoking”, yes.
(You must understand that this is coming from someone whose childhood outlook on life was completely changed after seeing “The Empire Strikes Back”. You mean the good guys can lose?! WHAT?!)
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I read on the Sci-Fi boards that Henson wanted it left in in case another network wanted to continue in the future, or the Save Farscape people raise enough money to produce a final episode.
However, the post I read it on provided no source, so it’s only as believeable as you would like it to be.
I thought the “Thank You” from the Sci Fi channel at the end was lame and patronizing, though. 😡
On the other hand, if it had to end, and I do mean if, I really loved the ending. I would love to see it continue, but I really go for that dramatic Shakespearean tragedy/cliffhanger stuff. That’s the kind of ending that people will talk about for years.
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It’s out now. $14.95 at http://www.aande.com , in the cult TV section of their store.
( http://store.aetv.com/html/culttv/c01.jhtml?id=1285 )
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I’m also getting that Runtime/ object expected error message, but 2 different times. It’s “line 194” every time I go to a new page on the board. Every time I mouseover the header image there’s a different line number depending on what I try to click to.
Have to back up to click to SadHoo or Sci-Fi downloads, for example, because I can’t do it from the boards.
Is that the same thing everyone else is getting?
(It’s doubtful that’ll help you find the conflict, but I tried, anyway.)
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but is there a KB limit on images and mp3s for this, or a preferred KB limit, or a KB limit per member?
I only added 1 image today, but it occurred to me just now it was a rather large one. Considering how much of my collection I’d like to offer I wanted to see if you had considered any rules for that before I started playing around with the interactive/download stuff.
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Jhevz wrote:Pet, I like your drawing of MM, may I have a copy? He’s soooo cute & I like the saying, `I am not KAI: Michael McManus’.
I didn’t draw very much of it, but you can right-click and “steal” anything I put up. No problemo….
In fact, I’ll throw in the original Spock book for free, if you like
http://special.petserrano.com/notspock.gif
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I’m gonna save it for when I get her input on FLB face #2. 😀
(That would have been a fantastic scene, though, wouldn’t it?! LOL!)
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I couldn’t tell you for sure, but I don’t remember reading if she was on L&O, although it seems like everyone has been at one time or another….
Her official site is http://www.zentillizone.com it lists her credits there. You could also ask her on her message board.
(She was most recently in the Budwiser commercial with the upside-down clown, though. Very disturbing! LOL!)
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I just remembered that means my animation of Snowball II scratching Kai’s leg is gone, too! 🙁 If I’d only added the “What sort of a thing are you?” quote earlier it would be online by now and I could just download it. 🙁
My new new hard drive came in today. If this one shorts out, I’m gonna be extremely pissed. Why am I spending all this time making sure their parts are springy enough and their welds are straight if they’re using substandard circuit boards?! Argh!
Pet;D
Thanks! (I only mention the 50 cents so y’all know I’m shilling a bit…. it’s actually for referring them to cafeshops.)
FX wrote:congrats and well done pet, you deserve it! 😀 now, how about a little cd of all the homer simpson does lexx mixes?! 8)
🙁 I have lost my ENTIRE collection of simpsons sounds and all the files I drew to remake a flash version of the opening sequence with all may favorite Sci-Fi characters. I even had Mr.Burns as Scorpius and Smithers as C3PO, and a SG-1 symbiote enter the back of Homer’s neck. I got that far!
My NEW hard drive, purchased from a company that uses parts I make, crashed because of a short in parts I don’t make. I always back everything up on CD-RW, but my Simpsons disk has an unrecoverable read error. 👿
At least my Xev disk is alright. That would really have sucked to make that deal and have no file! 😀
Pet;D
😈 Wait ’till you see the apron I sent you….
Pet;D
(Seriously, though, trying for Patricia next for this series. Wish me luck there, too!)
theFrey wrote:Well we will see. I expect it to just break a thousand. Of course I have been wrong before. (shocking isn’t it 🙂 ) for instance, when I predicted that the brace would go so high, I was poo-pooed. And then it topped out at what? Over 3500.00?
Now does anyone care to speculate what the assassin Kai costume would go for?
If I remember right, the brace even went for more than Spock’s ears did that week.
Pet;D
Another B5 tie-in,
I just started watching my new DVD set, and something I didn’t notice (know about) the first time around struck me. Walter Koenig used the greeting/goodbye from The Prisoner, making the number 6 with your hand over your eye and saying “Be seeing you….”
Anyone know if that was in the script or improv? Just curious…. Anyway, it made me happy.
BCingU!
Pet;DI bought this for my honey for Xmas. I must say, I never really took to the show. Seeing them back-to-back from the beginning, though, I’ll admit it’s growing on me. I love the art direction, and the portrayal of the military is atypical and more realistic than I expected. The highest-ranking officer doesn’t get involved with the day-to-day adventures, (which is something that irked me about the 1st season of B5), and the highest-ranking officer actually going on the missions is the wise-ass of the group, which is more likey to happen IRL.
I’m also impressed that the female of the group isn’t constantly the butt of sexual innuendo, a cliche in which many shows fall so easily.
You can consider me converted! (Not enough to pay for Sci-Fi again, but I’m buying the second set!)
Pet;D
[ 10-01-2003: Message edited by: pet ]
I don’t believe she cancelled Farscape deliberately to **** off sci-fi fans. My problem with Farscape being cancelled is that it was the last in a long line of changes made to the station that are resulting in less and less Sci-Fi. It is hard to ignore that their new line-up appears to ignore Science Fiction in favor of cheapness.
While there’s nothing wrong with making things that are less expensive, “cheap” is an entirely different story. And she’s doing “cheap” with barely any sci-fi at all. “Tremors” is the closest thing, but I never liked the movies. The only monster movies I like are childhood Godzillas and Alien.
Dream interpretation, talking to dead people, rehashing In Search Of, and Blair-witch/Candid Camera hybrids don’t seem to involve sci-fi at all, unless I’m missing something.
I realise she’s trying to “broaden the definition of sci-fi”, or whatever, but I’m sorry, unless I missed the part where William Wallace harnesses lightning to kill the Loch Ness monster, or Longshanks invents the Rover, I can’t find the Science Fiction in Braveheart.
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D’oh!!
And I’m already moving! I mixed my formerly private sites with my lexxy sites in a new spot:
http://www.petserrano.comThe old one will be closed soon.
But thanks! Glad you like it. I try to whittle everything down to only really fun and unique links. It’s very difficult to choose sometimes.
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