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[b]I will now repost this masterpiece, the original having been swallowed up by the server.[/b]
Before I say anything else, I will explain the philosophy that governs my thoughts and actions. I will not refer to it by name since it is a minority philosophy that is widely despised in this country.
My philosophy holds that the most logical and straightforward interpretation of observed data is the most valid. All things have to be evaluated based entirely on evidence and not influenced by preconceptions, mindsets, or bias. The conclusion arrived at through the process, however unappealing, is to be accepted. I assume nothing and doubt everything. Holding one idea as true because it is emotionally appealing is called dogma. My philosophy holds that most (if not all) of the problems in the history of society are caused by dogma. I work by a pragmatic view of the Universe, evaluating things logically based entirely on evidence free of mindset, bias, and blind faith. Another cornerstone of my philosophy is that when anything is examined closely enough it is shown to be neither proven or disproven. Thus in this universe we can never be truly certain of anything besides our own uncertainty. Existence, as far as we as limited beings can perceive it, is just a bunch of theories existing in relative probabilities. All knowledge is tentative. I am always willing to logically consider any possibility. If you don’t agree with my philosophy that’s fine, just it doesn’t give you the right to attack me every chance you get.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
So you’re willing to buy this until you hear something convincing otherwise, yet *any* internet search for data on rape will bring up thousands of sites, and roughly 95% of them will state that studies show that rape is a crime of control and power, and is *not* about sex, and you will discount all of the evidence?
You do not understand. Part of this philosophy is accepting that there are certain claims that one cannot tell if they are true or false and have to be listed as intermediate. I never pass judgment upon anything without enough relevant data to logically evaluate it.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
As FX has stated, this is mixing pseudoscience with religion, and when one does this, it discredits the entire approach.
I was agreeing with you! You said that criminal tendencies are sometimes based on hereditary psychological conditions and I was acknowledging that that is indeed a factor. I meant “sinful acts” in the sense of murder, rape, and the like, in case you didn’t realize that. And I can most certainly tell the difference between science and pseudoscience, having thoroughly investigated both.
And a couple people have asked me for a source. I don’t remember the title, but it was a documentary on Ted Bundy on (I think) A&E. As for the other facts, here are my written sources:
[i]Psychology[/i], sixth edition; David G. Myers, 2001 (textbook for elementary psychology)
[i]Are Criminals Made or Born?[/i] from [i]Crime and Human Nature[/i]; Richard J. Herrnstein & James Q. Wilson, 1985 (required reading for accelerated rhetoric)
[i]Let’s Put Pornography Back in the Closet[/i]; Susan Brownmiller, 1975 (required reading for accelerated rhetoric)
[i]Brain Lock[/i]; Jeffrey M. Schwartz, 1996 (recommended by the on-campus psychologist)And the lecturer for my psychology course has informed me that sexual predation is caused by the desire to elevate arousal beyond the level attainable through ethical behavior.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
This, however, is what is known as “reaching for excuses.” I don’t suppose that your relative charm and wit have been taken into account here, have they?
You were the one who first brought up genetic predisposition! Even when I agree with your statements you argue with me. I am unpopular because I am shy, introverted, and awkward in social situations, symptoms of my obsessive-compulsive disorder.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
And as for subliminal messages? Puh-leeze. Studies have shown, time and time again, that subliminals do not work.
You do realize I wasn’t serious…right?
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Originally posted by Aleck:
Okay, hold up, hold up. You take the high-n-mighty approach that media warps minds, and because of this you have adamantly stated that you “do not listen to Howard Stern.” Yet you can rattle off entire verses of Eminem tracks?
Oh come on! I’m only human. I can’t be 100% serious and unemotional all the time. Your attacks are getting sillier and sillier. My roommate was playing that song as I was typing and I thought that line was relevant to discussion.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
You have said that you do not fear sex, you simply put it in its place. In this “futuristic utopia” as you call it (is this the one where this season of LEXX takes place?), you have completely erased the sex drive. You have removed sex from what it *is* in the human species to something completely other and alien to the human species. This evidences *such* a fear and loathing of sex as it exists, and *such* a high level of disgust at ones own instincts and desires, that I find it staggering.
Now you’re just being insulting again. I don’t fear sex and I have no sexual desires to be disgusted with.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
To argue otherwise is to fly in the face of logic and good sense.
I am the personification of logic and good sense.
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Originally posted by FX:
your expertise in human anatomy( as well as physiology,psychopathology, and molecular biology) is conspicuous by its absence
I’ll have you know I am quite knowledgeable in anatomy. I just don’t try to impress others by constantly using obscure scientific terms, unlike some people.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Institutions of morality must not have legal enforcement powers.
Than what is the law? The more seriously immoral acts like murder and rape are already punishable by law.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
What do you suggest we do?
I think the banning or restricting of the publication of pornography, a change in what is permissible on television, and better sex education in schools is a good start.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
[b][i]Venus of Wilendorf[/i][/b]
This statuette was found near Wilendorf, Austria. It is pornography from [b]20,000 B.C.E.[/b]
I am, of course, familiar with that. I also know from Discover magazine that most archeologists believe that it was a talisman to protect against complications during childbirth.
Perhaps it was wrong of me to believe you could comprehend let alone appreciate the depth of my wisdom and insight.
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Originally posted by :
“”y’know it’d be funny if the bitch got her tongue frozen”Bitch?
*growls, preparing to munch on DalekTek’s brain*
[b]I’LL DRINK YOUR ESSENCE![/b]
I think Zev’s licking of people is part of her Cluster lizard instincts. Maybe she’s seeing if they taste good. We know female Cluster lizards eat their mates after, er…[i]mating[/i]. It’s entirely possible that licking is part of the Cluster lizard courtship ritual. There are a number of animals that [i]smell[/i] potential mates to determine if they have genetic diseases, and this could also be true with Cluster lizards (reptiles on Earth smell with their tongues, remember?). And this could be retained in Zev, at least at a subconscious level.
That’s my take on the whole licking thing (at least with the lizard chick).
In one or two episodes Zev licks Kai’s cryopod. When I saw that I thought “y’know it’d be funny if the bitch got her tongue frozen to the glass.” Well, from reading the review for [i]Vlad[/i] it seems just that happens to one of the Goth girls! Way to appeal to the audiences’ fantasies! [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
When I first saw this thread title I was afraid it would be about those toilets on the Lexx with tongues. *shudder*
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Anybody see Jeri Ryan star in the season premier of [i]Boston Public[/i]? ([i]Star Trek: Voyager[/i] fans know her as Seven.) I thought it looked pretty good. I’ll try to watch it more often!By strange coincidence, a teacher recommended that I sign up as a substitute teacher. Seeing Jeri in that show got me to think about that. Anybody else here at Saddy a teacher?
Hey, that reminds me: did I ever mention that my psychology teacher last year looked exactly like Prince on [i]Lexx[/i]? [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] I don’t mean he sort of resembled him, I mean it was an [b]uncanny[/b] likeness. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] In his speech on how he doesn’t grade on the curve I was half expecting him to say “I’m very good with pain.” Of course none of my friends in the class watched [i]Lexx[/i] so I had no way of confirming my opinion. Just thought you’d all like to know. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by FX:
…and dt, you are wrong; there were several posts during your absence expressing concern…i would point you to them except i am afraid to look at this point; as i mentioned in the announcements section, stuff seems to be missing…you also got welcome back posts, which you seem to have forgotten…and fyi, i did notice that you said you were depressed, but since you never respond to my posts directly except to snarl at something i said, i did not feel comfortable asking you what you were depressed about…may i add that you have also never responded to any emails i have sent you…so try a little honey sometime instead of your usual vinegar and see if it doesn’t make your life sweeter
I’m sorry, I shouldn’t’ve snapped like that, I was just angered by your post. This is a good board and the members are generally good people. Even Aleck, who I don’t really get along with, seems to be pretty bright. But sometimes I feel like the people here don’t like me.
May I add that you’re a peculiar individual. One minute you’ll be friendly but the next you’ll be posting an unprovoked personal attack against me.
I don’t recall getting any e-mail from SadBoard members, so I don’t know what you’re talking about there.
“Have you seen The Tick?” -2 posts missing
“D.T.’s Puritanical values” -several posts and lock missing
“Sensorship and Puritan values” -topic missing
“Lexx death toll” -topic missing
“Lexxian night fever” -several posts missing
“Scenes from the cutting room floor” -1 post missing
“How are you doing?” -1 post missing
That’s all I know from memory and others’ complaints. Are these gone for good? [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] If so, then it’s a good thing saved my morality posts on a WordPro file. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
[ 02-11-2001: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
But [i]Lexx[/i] has always bordered on run-of-the-mill, [i]Star Wars[/i] pushes the envelope, taking science fiction places it’s never been with each new episode. It has a standart of excellence unmatched by any movie series in the history of film. The four [i]Lexx/Tales from a Parallel Universe[/i] movies give us a combined 13 stars, [i]Star Wars[/i] gives us 16 (all 4 star films). [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by FX:
…yes, we do worry when our regulars disappear, including dalek tek, so TELL US next time…love and kisses, fx
Yeah right! [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] I was gone from this board for a month last summer and nobody posted a thing about noticing my absence. I posted that I had been going through a period of depression. Nobody asked why. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] And the very next day the usuals were back to attacking me. Now I’m insulted in this topic which I hadn’t even posted in at that point. I give you people all sorts of information and insight on science fiction and in return I get abuse. [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by X:
Um.. where did my reply wonder off to?
A number of posts and topics have vanished without a trace in these past few days. [b]THERE ARE PATCHES IN THE SADBOARD![/b]
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
…after a nuclear holocaust only roaches and cher will survive!
Don’t steal my novel ideas! [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
[i]Star Wars[/i] is not a ripoff of [i]The Hidden Fortress[/i], it’s an homage. Just like [i]Woz[/i] is an homage to [i]The Wizard of Oz[/i] by L. Frank Baum (there are some subtle references there to be noticed by the especially observant viewer).
And [i]Lexx[/i] may be good, but it’s not original. [i]I Worship His Shadow[/i] is a ripoff on [i]Star Wars[/i] with a bit of [i]Blake’s 7[/i] thrown in. [i]Eating Pattern[/i] is a ripoff of [i]What is the Secret of Soylent Green?[/i], the whole premise of the show is lifted from [i]Star Trek[/i] ([i]The Next Generation[/i] mostly, but with bits of the original series and [i]Voyager[/i]) with significant elements and episode plots from [i]Doctor Who[/i], the whole prophecy thing with Kai is practically copied from [i]The Dark Crystal[/i] (unless there’s some myth I’m not aware of that inspired them both), then in the fourth season they’ve fed [i]The X-Files[/i] into the meat grinder. There are probably more, too.
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Thanks everyone [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]Dalek, what posts are missing? FX has mentioned that the message count goes up and down periodically, but I haven’t yet seen any (recent) evidence of missing posts. Do you have any specific examples that I can check out?
There is at least one topic in Lexx General missing, plus several posts on another topic, and there is at least one post missing from Lexx Episodes. That’s just in the topics I’d really been following lately, there are probably others missing that I didn’t notice. I think all the posts were from the last day the board was operational and the day before. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img]
I just wanted to know if all that discussion was lost or if it would be restored by the weekend (which is when you said everything would be fixed). Should we refrain from posting on the topics from which posts disappeared so the lost ones aren’t overprinted? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
[i]Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tellykelly![/i] [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
The board has returned, but will the lost posts be restored as well? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
DT, I don’t recommend that you view this episode. It may “warp your fragile little mind!” (to quote Cartman from the [i]South Park Movie[/i]). Also, there are inside jokes about the pornography industry that you wouldn’t understand. And since you have a deep disapproval of flagrant sexual expression, it would only make you angry and resentful. Besides, Lyekka is in this one… and, uh… well, you know… [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Hey! It’s not like I’m some fragile adolescent who can’t tolerate a little sexuality in my sci-fi (I have watched everey episode of [i]The X-Files[/i] and most of the 80s [i]Doctor Who[/i] episodes, thank you very much). I want to watch all of [i]Lexx[/i]. And I’m pretty close, [i]Boomtown, Vlad, Fluff Daddy[/i], and [i]Magic Baby[/i] are the only episodes I haven’t seen yet.
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Originally posted by Hypatia:
And yes, DT is up to his old hyjincks. Good lord!
Hey! I don’t do anything wrong, Aleck and his followers just like to attack me. [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Christoph:
It will be interesting to see if anyone would like to share some dreams with elements from Lexx.
Go to this link and read posts #7 and 33 by DalekTek790.
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Genes do to some extent shape people’s personalities. For example, I believe I am genetically predisposed to being unpopular, no matter how hard I try I can never “fit in” socially. That’s my destiny. And many criminals have genetic conditions that predispose them to sinful acts. However a considerable amount of their behavior’s causes are environment, and of course their own choice. Most schizophrenics don’t hurt people, most manic depressives don’t try to kill themselves, etc. Something, bad parenting, too much porno, subliminal messages, whatever causes these people to “snap” and channel their psychotic energy to a certain destructive practice based on their experience. Still others are genetically and mentally fit but are willed into doing sinful things by environmental elements. Then there are people who are basically good but will commit serious sins because all their friends are doing it or they saw it on T.V. or they were somehow convinced that in order to be popular or to be accepted they have to do it. We all have the potential to be serial killers or sex predators or drug addicts. In the words of Marshall Mathers:
[b]”Every single person is a Slim Shady lurkin’.
He could be workin’ at Burger King spittin’ on your onion rings;
Or in the parking lot circlin’ screamin’ ‘I don’t give a ****’
with his windows down and system up;
So will the real Shady please stand up?”[/b]I know about Bundy from this thing on television. A behavioral psychologist said (approximate quote) “Ted Bundy’s violent attitudes toward women were probably triggered by his obsession with pornography. In fact, all the major sex criminals were known to read pornography in excess. That is why it is important that pornography be made illegal.”
I read the section in my psychology textbook on rape after Hypatia’s claim, and it essentially confirmed what I already believed. It says the media is the primary factor for erotomania. It also states that there is a definite link between pornography and sex crimes. One of my sociology books says that pornography was invented in the late 19th century by an unbalanced English “gentleman.”
By the way, can I have the name of the psychologist who proposed the theory of rape that you mentioned?
Organic erotomania is caused by an overactive pituitary gland and/or a dysfunction in the viscinity of the protemporal cortex. But psychological erotomania, which is probably much more common (there have apparently been few studies in this area), is caused by environmental/social factors. If we lived in a different society (such as Terrestria, a futuristic utopia I designed a while back) people would have no sex drive. There is no inborn instinct that causes it. None of man’s animal ancestors mate out of season (that is, for pleasure instead of procreation).
The reason the collective sexual appetite of man (in Western society) has increased dramatically after centuries of stability is changing attitudes toward sex in society and the media. There may be other factors, too. My friend tells me that it’s because of sex hormones in beef and orgasmic psychotropins in Coca-Cola as part of a government plot to shorten the human generation and increase reproductive output for the purpose of alien genetic experimantation. I will not pass judgment on that theory until I hear the evidence.
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Originally posted by Hypatia:
My good man, rape is rarely sexually motivated, more often the desire is for power over the victim.
I’ve never heard [i]that[/i]. I know the most common form of sexual assault is date rape (which has increased dramatically in the last 20 years), and that is caused by sexual desires that the partner refuses to fulfill but are acted upon anyway. These desires are triggered by social pressures.
Most repeat sex criminals (Bundy et al) had a long infatuation with pornography, which probably caused or amplified their violent sexual tendancies.
In other words, sexual crimes are generally triggered by social factors and the media.
I read your review, Sad. [i]Fluff Daddy[/i] looks like quite an episode. Unfortunate I had to miss it. I could say more about my thoughts on the events in that show, but it wouldn’t exactly be “called for.”
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Originally posted by Rockham:
I watched The Giga Shadow last night and I couldn’t see any dancing twins. You are right though, they are listed in the credits.Maybe they were in the original version but were cut. I remember that the version of IWHS that I recorded from the TV is different from my video cassette version, some sequences were dropped in one of them, like when Stan was running out of oxygen in his space craft. Also the cute voice of the exploding bug was omitted in one of the versions.
I don’t remember seeing them, either. I can’t even think of a scene that could possibly contain dancing twins. Where they a space mirage when Stan was low on oxygen? Were they guests at Feppo and Smoor’s party? Were they from one of Kai’s flashbacks? Were they being cleansed? It boggles my mind. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
Of course, if everybody’s right there are dancing twins in like 5 episodes. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
I know what you’re saying about scene clipping. A bunch of material is taken out of [i]Lexx[/i] episodes and movies when they’re shown in the U.S. I even heard that a scene with Zev and the Cluster lizard in [i]Lexx 1.4: The Giga Shadow[/i] ([i]Tales from a Parallel Universe 4.0: Giga Shadow[/i] to us unterprivaleged Americans) was cut due to its erotic nature (I have yet to hear confirmation. Hey, perverted Brits! Little help here? [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] ).
The increase in sexual promiscuity, rape, prostitution, and pornography are all because of increasing sexual appetites, which are now more voracious than ever before due to numerous factors.
Here are the episodes most hated by Lexxians on this board (with reasons and occasional commentary):
1. White Trash-6 votes (4 for bad, 2 for worst) What in tarnation is wrong with you people?!? Too silly.
2. Luvliner- 5 votes (3 for bad, 2 for worst) Ick.
3. Tunnels-5 votes Filler.
4. Garden-5 votes Good idea gone bad/filler.
5. The Beach-4 votes (3 for bad, 1 for worst) Stupid premise/filler.
6. Brizon-3 votes Ick.
7. Lafftrak-3 votes Good idea gone bad/too silly.
8. Battle-3 votes People just hate these fourth season episodes. Filler.
9. Lexx 1.2: Super Nova-2 The only movie to be blacklisted. Ick.
10. Stan Down-2 votes Filler.
11. Love Grows-2 votes Ick.
12. The Rock-2 votes Filler.
13. Fluff Daddy-2 votes Ick.
14. Magic Baby-2 votes Good idea gone bad.
15. Patches in the Sky-2 votes Too silly.
16. Woz-2 votes No appreciation for subtle satire, these people. Ick.
17. Terminal-1 vote (1 for worst) Stupid premise.
18. Heaven and Hell-1 vote Stupid premise.
19. Girltown-1 vote Stupid premise.
20. Xevivor-1 vote Good idea gone bad.
21. Nook-1 vote Ick.
22. Mantrid-1 vote Ick.Come on, isn’t anybody gonna respond? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] I (partially) solved the dancing twin conundrum, doesn’t anybody care. Rockham? Flamegrape? Hello… [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Sgt. Draino:
The Cleric “Chant” was, but the Cleric “Theme” was not.
What’s the difference? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
The “be-em-bay” chant is the main component in the track called “Cleric Theme” and is the first part of both season 2 opening themes. It was heard in [i]I Worship His Shadow[/i] when the Lexx is being pursued by the Cluster’s 24th Attack Wing.
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Originally posted by Mayaxiong:
Girl Awakes/Norb are indeed used interchangeably, howver, the person who voted for it voted as Girl Awakes. So it really doesn’t matter which ep, it’s still just the one vote.
I wasn’t trying to criticize the voting results, I just wanted to find out which episode it was in first for the purpose of personal knowledge. I think I was the (only) one who voted for it, actually. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Kali:
Here’s more for your list, DT:The two prison guards in the execution scene in Little Blue Planet were rednecks from the party scene on Vermal in White Trash.
The guy in the dumpster in Fluff Daddy was Gordon White, who played a zombie in Twilight.
And what about Jeff Hirschfield? Doesn’t the porno pizza guy count as a reincarnation of Big Boy Bando? [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
That’s interesting. Do you have names for the redneck actors? That would be useful.
I didn’t mark the Hirschfield person as Bando because they don’t seem like the same character, even though the appearance is somewhat similar (because it’s the same actor). The pizza boy could also be the reincarnation of the Divine Shadow (host) who killed Kai, which would make sense since that was the voice of Jeff Hirschfield and Barnab Hufferton is played by Lex Gigeroff and could therefore be the reincarnation of His Shadow’s last human host (the tattoed Gigeroff skinhead with problems). But there isn’t anything about the characters that distinctly marks them as reincarnations. Huff could also be Dr. Rainbow, or one of the other characters he’s played in [i]Lexx[/i]’s history.
We can’t know which and it doesn’t seem like any. The reuse of actors outside of reincarnations makes this hard. For example, Holger Kunkel played Boork in [i]Eating Pattern[/i] and Vigo in [i]Mantrid[/i]. He reappeared on Fire as one of the “downstairs people” in [i]K-Town[/i]. So the Fire character could be the soul of either Boork of Vigo. The indicator is that the Fire-dweller tells the reincarnated Mantrid to get lost, while Vigo was Igor to Mantrid’s Dr. Frankenstein. So I think it’s safe to say the makers intended him to be Vigo’s soul. No such indicator appears in [i]Fluff Daddy[/i] to show which Lex and Jeff the fluffers were.
Okay, I know the name is from [i]791[/i], but I think “Girl Awakes/Norb Launch” was first played in [i]White Trash[/i] (in the scene where the hillbilly Anakin Skywalker is almost blown up by the Lexx’s beams but manages to get his ship off of Vermal just in time). I may be wrong, though.
Oh, and “Cleric Chant” was in [i]I Worship His Shadow[/i], not Just [i]The Giga Shadow[/i]. And “Xev’s Dream” is from [i]The Net[/i], not [i]Love Grows[/i].
For some reason I thought “Wild, Wild Lexx” was from the movies. I still don’t know which season two episode it debuted in. Does anybody?
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Originally posted by Aurora:
Where can I get the Brigadoom CD? (or are all the songs on the other 2 soundtracks? mine are in the mail right now!).
You can get all the songs at Lekss: Muzyka Temnoi Zony (that’s “Lexx: Music from the Dark Zone”). Some of the text is in Russian, but the track listings are in English.
I’d say “The Time Prophet’s Song” is the best by far. A lot of [i]Brigadoom[/i] songs are really good, though. That was quite an episode.
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[i]Vaiyo a oh;
Vaiyo a oh, home vaah ray;[/i]
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G.
Vaiyo a oh, home vaah ray;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G.Actually, “Lyekka” and “Potato Hoe” are the same song, so that would get three votes.
I have a couple of questions for the experts. Which episode of the secod season first had “Girl Awakes”? May’s post says [i]791[/i] but the alternate title for the track at the Music from the Dark Zone site is “Norb Launch” and the Norb launch scene took place in [i]White Trash[/i] which came before [i]791[/i]. Also, which was the first second season episode to have “Cleric Remix 2” in the opening credits? One final question, which of the movies had “Wild, Wild Lexx” in it? I can place most of the songs but that one escapes me.
I am intolerant only of ignorance and sin.
In recent times there has been an exponential increase in sexual promiscuity, divorce, rape, prostitution, pornography, substance abuse, violent crime, de facto segregation, anti-intellectualism, and pseudo-religious cultism among other things. The result has been a breakdown of the family unit and a drastic increase in deviant behavior. Few deny this. People thought things were bad in the 70s. The state of the world now makes that look like a picnic. And this isn’t going to reverse itself any time soon, either. We can just hope and pray this gets worked out before it causes the collapse of civilization as we know it. The sociological degradation in the last half century is probably unparalleled by anything since the Fall of Rome. Western civilization is crumbling beneath our feet. Ignoring the problem won’t make it go away.
There is statistical proof available. In 1940 and before in the United States 1% of all births were out of wedlock. In 1950 it was 2%,. In 1960 it was 5%. 1970=12%, 1980-=8%, 1990=27%, and 2000=34%. Britain and Canada have been experiencing similar growth. On the other hand, in Japan, a sociologically stable country, the rate has been a consistent 1% over all this time. This is indicative of the dramatic shift in Western values beginning in the mid to late 40s.
That “axiom” is completely wrong, and certainly does not apply to me. I have never sought a sexual relationship because I have always known it would be wrong to do so. I am a good person.
What is good is what is good. What is evil is what is evil. There are moral constants hard-wired into the cells of all forms of life. You talk about me like I’m some crazy fringer. Where I come from these values are the norm.
Update: So far 16 characters in this season are reincarnations of characters in previous seasons. I made a list a few minutes ago but the stupid board deleted it so I’m retyping it. Here they are-
Laleen/Bunny (Patricia Zentilli)
Living Kai (Michael McManus)
Brock/Joy of Life Missionary (Geoff Herod)
Lorka/Mrs. Priest (Janet Wright)
Rock Hound’s Captain/A.T.F. Agent (Chris Duffy)
Prince/Director Isambard Prince (Nigel Bennet)
Priest/President Reginald J. Priest (Ralph Kaines)
Giggerota/Queen/Pope Genevieve G. Rota (Ellen Dubin)
Schlemmi/Fifi/Farley Cuckle (Jeff Pustil)
Human Lyekka/Lulu (Louise Wischermann)
Lomea/Lomia (Lauren Abrahams)
Dominatrix/Dravidia (Andrea Green)
Ballerina/Mandragora (Rachel Mooney)
Ballerina/Muffy (Angie Hill)
Pa Gollean/Tourist (Maury Chaykin)
Hunter from Leester/Balloonist/Big Angry Ed (Mark Owen)Only four characters who have lived two onscreen lives have not resurfaced on Earth. And we have strong indication that the plant Lyekka will return. Also, I envision Mantrid being reincarnated as the mad scientist trying to find the mass of the Higgs boson.
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Originally posted by CBrate:
Sexually advanced could mean reproduction is not restricted to the two parents/two genders setup most of us are used to. Incorporating two separate genders, we’re sexually more advanced than assexually reproducing organisms. Perhaps their capable of several forms of reproduction varying in the number of parents and genders involved.
According to the [i]Worlds of the Federation[/i] book it has something to do with pheromones. But like I said that’s not official.
Letuna and Martana Sim are each listed as “dancing twin” in the cast list for [i]Lexx 1.4: The Giga Shadow[/i].
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Protopl is how most online sources spell it. Plus if you listen to the dialog there’s clearly an “L” sound at the end of the name. Sub-Nebulae would make more sense, because nebulae is the correct plural of nebula, but the cast all pronounce it “Nebuli.”
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Originally posted by Aleck:
Yes, that’s right. Sex-fearing Puritanical values disappearing is bad…I know it’s keeping *me* up at night.
Moral degradation is the biggest problem facing America today. People are becoming less and less concerned with morality and the consequences of their actions.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
So you agree that Puritanical values emphasize a fear of sex, DT? And you’ve said before that the roots of your philosophical stance is, in fact, Puritanical.
I don’t really agree with Flamegrape’s opinion that Puritanical views emphasize a fear of sex.
I never said the roots of my philosophical stance were Puritanical. When I talk about my [i]philosophy[/i] I’m referring to a much more recent philosophical camp, which I won’t name since it’s unpopular. And in that context I mean mostly cosmology, not ethics.
My [i]ethical[/i] stance is similar to the Puritan wiew (although a lot of people talk about a “Puritan” value system without really knowing what it stands for), but it’s not like I decided one day to follow a certain value system. I just had good parents who instilled in me a traditional sense of morality.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
So, are you then saying that you fear sex? That’s interesting. Especially in light of the dreams you’ve posted. And the success rate you’ve acknowledged you’ve had with members of the opposite sex…Very interesting indeed.
I don’t [i]fear[/i] sex, I just put it in its place. My “success rate” with the opposite sex is zero. Besides, I am not interested in sex, I am interested in a meaningful relationship. I don’t really know what you’re talking about. And my dream is not relevant since it was just a dream, not something I had any control over. I also don’t see it as sexual, let alone indicative of unchecked lascivious behavior. I don’t quite understand what you’re saying/implying.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
DT, if you have Puritanical values, how can it be that you are a fan of Lexx? It seems to be a contradiction.
I enjoy [i]Lexx[/i] for the same reason I enjoy [i]Star Trek[/i] and [i]Doctor Who[/i], because it’s an imaginative space adventure.
[b]Tales from a Parallel Universe[/b]
Battle of the Universe
Cleric Theme
The Lexx Escape
Prisoner Transport[b]Lexx[/b]
Final Scene
Girl Awakes
Prince Theme[b]Brigadoom[/b]
I Must Leave
The Time Prophet’s Song[i]Star Wars[/i], no contest. [i]Lexx[/i] is great sci-fi, but it doesn’t compare to [i]Star Wars[/i]. Nothing does. [i]Star Wars[/i] and [i]Lexx[/i] are like Shakespeare and Hawthorne, Mozart and Salieri. Mario and Kirby.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
After much consideration, I think I would want to be a Deltan, as seen in [i]Star Trek: The Motion Picture[/i]. I’ve often wondered what it means to be a member of a “sexually advanced” race of aliens. I’ve been wondering for years. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
I have a book that describes what “sexually advanced” means in the context of the Deltans. It has, however been disowned by the makers of [i]Star Trek[/i] and is no longer considered canonical material.
New [i]Lexx[/i] movies-
Lexx 5.1: The Motion Picture
Lexx 5.2: The Wrath of Mantrid
Lexx 5.3: The Search for Kai
Lexx 5.4: Return to Canada
Lexx 5.5: Past the Frontier
Lexx 5.6: The Undiscovered Franchise
Lexx 6.1: Degenerations
Lexx 6.2: First Insect
Lexx 6.3: Insanity
Lexx X.X: [show no longer profitable, on to First Wave movies]quote:
Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Sex-fearing puritanical values are fading away…
Aagh! That’s bad. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by JumpingJedi:
oh yea. then Stan wakes up….its all been a dream…..
Damn it! You took what I was gonna say. [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
“This is your fourth wake up call.”
Stan talking to a co-worker by the water cooler: “I had this weird dream where I got in control of the Lexx and His Divine Shadow wasn’t the omniscient and benevolent overlord of all..” (to security camera) “I worship you, by the way. And he got killed only then he wasn’t dead and then he was again and an Insect but part of him had a German accent and destroyed the universe. And there was this blue haired then red haired then blonde love slave who was part Cluster lizard, only in my dream Cluster lizards grew to be bigger than bread boxes and ate brains instead of aphids, except she didn’t want me because she had the hots for this dead guy with a bun-head. And Lyekka from accounting was there, and she liked me but she was smooth ’round the bend and ate hillbillies and Goths. Oh, and Mr. Prince the human resources director was the Devil. You were there, too, only you didn’t have a body.”
790: “I need to get a new job.”
More lame humor from the triple-cyborg geek. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Raven:
I don’t read about much stuff on the net about LEXX, but can someone tell me what are the chances of there being a Series 5?
About the same as [i]Farscape[/i] winning an Emmy.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
Jonathan “Instant Mashed Potato” Frakes doesn’t deserve *that* much.
You’re probably right, it’s just I couldn’t think of any other [i]Star Trek[/i] actors that aren’t too old, fat, or goofy-looking to play the part.
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Originally posted by CBrate:
Dr Who’s cybermen were pretty unstoppable (except for that gold dust thing). One would think they were a precursor to the uninspired Borg.
Yeah, the Borg are pretty similar to the Cybermen. Not just in being emotionless cyborgs, but the Cybermen also assimilated normal humanoids to add to their ranks! The Borg were actually a pretty good race before they got cheapified in [i]Voyager[/i]. [i]First Contact[/i] could’ve been truer to the classic Borg episodes, too. The only real difference between the Cybermen and the Borg is I don’t remember a de-assimilated Cyberwoman in a tight silver number hanging around the T.A.R.D.I.S. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
In conclusion: I watch too much sci-fi.
Oh, come on that same topic was posted like one week ago. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] And how could you like [i]Love Grows[/i]? It’s a stupid and scientifically impossible plot and the worst episode of the second season. [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] The only good part was Kai’s sex speech.
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Originally posted by Slopmaster:
You know that is very interesting. I have seen that part of the Lexx before but I never made the Vorlon conection. Hmmm it wouldn’t surprise me if the beans were influenced by B5.
Is that really part of the Lexx? it looks too big, and I don’t remember ever seeing anything like that on the giant bug. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] Say, does anyone know where I can buy a model of the Lexx?
And no, Frey, I don’t want one of your “klone” Lexx models made out of panty hose containers and coat hangers. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
I watched [i]Lexx[/i] backwards once, and it said “Paul is dead.” [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
It’s possible that the cycle of time has looped since the third season, but the interpretation I’m now leaning toward has humanity from this cycle colonizing the Dark Zone in the last cycle. Er, that makes sense, right? So the people who were all over in the first two seasons are the descendants of the people on the Earth now, not the Earth then. And eventually the fractal core is found and they colonize the Light Zone as well. Is what I’m typing comprehensible or do i just need sleep?
So that explains why the Brunnen-G share the vast majority of their D.N.A. with Terrans and both of the languages we hear them speak are Teutonic.
Brunnis-1 can’t be Earth because Earth’s sun will never go super nova. It can’t reach critical mass, the chemistry is all wrong. It’ll just collapse in about 7 billion years, aided by the shock wave of the Eta Carinae super nova. Plus Brunnis-1 had that other blue sun. But then again Kai said there was no record of that star, and I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. Maybe it has something to do with the suns talking. Or maybe the real answer is something along the lines of “never write an episode whilst drunk.”
Now, before I posted a few joke spinoffs of [i]Lexx[/i], now, with a new series a real possibility, I’ll try my hand at a few serious ones-
[b]The Insect Wars[/b]: The story of the men and women of the distant past who gave their lives to save humanity in a series of fierce conflicts spanning two universes and involving dozens of races and hundreds of planets. Sort of like [i]Space: Above and Beyond[/i] or the Shadow War episodes of [i]Babylon 5[/i], only Lexxian and with INSECTS!
[b]The Dark Zone[/b]: Before the Divine Order took control, the League of 20,000 planets sent a space vessel through the fractal core to explore the Dark Zone. This is the story of those space explorers and wnat they found in the other universe. Presumably, the characters would eventually return to the Light Zone, only to find a galactic civil war.
[b]Heretics[/b]: The story of a ragtag bunch of freedom fighters who go against the Divine Order and work to eliminate its influence from the Frontier Worlds/Reform Planets. This could take place years, decades, or centuries before the Fall of His Shadow.
No one can have a clue of what a sequel series(that is with current characters or the Lexx in the future) would be like without seeing the end of the season, but these are a few possible spinoffs that came to me. Anyone else care to try?
