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Originally posted by Nirvanah Rimmer:
I can beat that DalekTek…………….
I have a plaster papa smurf figurine that I painted and dressed to look like Frank from Rocky Horror Picture show.
“How peculiar.”[ 03-04-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by Aleck:
The dominatrix, Bruise, was portrayed by German fetish model, contortionist and performance artist Rose Zone (nee Rosalind Bee).
No the character’s name isn’t “Dominatrix?” I thought it was. The word “dominatrix” is Latin for “mistress,” but recently a friend told me that it also means a person who enjoys inflicting pain on others. So I guess that would fit.
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
Peach and Pear from “Boomtown” are also 2 of the girls that capture Stanley in “Woz”
No. The love slave guards in Woz were played by Robin Johnson, Laura Nason, and Adrienne Horton (the fourth one was uncredited), Peach and Pear were played by Janaya Stephen and Robyn Palmer.
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Magic Babyquote:
Originally posted by SadGeezer:
By the way dude, I noticed that you have changed your signature but not on your SadBAORD profile?
I was experimenting with different signatures, but now I’ve decided on one.
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
By the way dude, I noticed that you have changed your signature but not on your SadBAORD profile?I was playing around with a smaller image of your picture and came up with this as a possible signature for your SadBOARD posts.
If you like it, I can replace your current signature (or append it) with this.
Testing…
“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
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Originally posted by Warsaw:
I was about to say Stan Down, but that one introduced the Brunnen G song to the cycle of time. And then for relevance(not pure entertainment) the one with Lomea.
The episode with the piano version of the Brunnen-G war chant was The Rock, not Stan Down. And P4X (the one with Lomia) did have some important arc elements (it was the first time we got to see the probes close up, it resolved the Xev in prison thread and the Digby thread, and it explained Prince’s motive for kidnapping Stan).
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I think it’s a valid subject. Not that I wouldn’t like to see more Lexx, but Season 2 had blatant filler episodes that didn’t have anything to so with the end episode. With the exception, of course, of Mandrid eating the planets after they left.
I wouldn’t call those “filler episodes.” The first two seasons of Lexx were about stand-alone adventures, with a few parts of a loose story arc interspersed (and quite frankly, the story arc in season two was not a very interesting one). Many of the best episodes are stand-alones in their seasons (Eating Pattern, Woz, and Garden to name a few).
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Originally posted by Valdron:
As to the relationship between Vlad and
Kai. Vlad came first. Alex Busby mentioned that she was 8000 years old. Minna Aaltonen said that Vlad was much older than Kai, by thousands of years.
That would place a limit on how recently the Divine Order could have been founded. It would mean that it had been around (and producing decarbonized assassins) for about 2 milliennia (at the very least) before it destroyed Brunnis-2. So that event couldn’t have been one of the first actions of the group (as was implied in one of the “Rated Lexx” segments).
The Rock could definately go. Stan Down and Xevivor, maybe. I haven’t seen Mort, but it doesn’t seem to contribute much since Moss looks like it picks up right where Prime Ridge left of (not that it isn’t a good stand-alone episode, it just doesn’t add to the arc much).
Season three really had a much tighter and more continuous story arc than season four.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
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Originally posted by infantonboard:
They have attractive stars. but they began to leave out the romance occasionally, then all the time (season IV). without romance, you don’t got ratings.
I agree with Flamegrape. There was never any romance in Lexx. There was sex. That’s not the same thing. Xev doesn’t want romance, se wants sex. Stan doesn’t want romance, he wants sex. Kai doesn’t want romance, the dead do not have wants. And I’m not sure what 790 wants, exactly.
I think the closest thing there’s ever been to romance on Lexx was Cleasby in Prime Ridge.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Shouldn’t they have done that episode a few years ago?
That was my thought.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
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Originally posted by JumpingJedi:
Just got an email from Lex Gigerof and he confirmed that there will be a Lexx Spin-Off series! It will take place 1000 years after the events of Season 4 and will start on a strange planet called Prila-Loof. It will star Xenia Seeberg, Brian Downey and a guy who played a moth breeder in Season 4. It is due to start filming in 2003 for a 2004 showing on the Sci-Fi channel. Great News!
Sure, and I’m dating Natalie Portman.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
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Originally posted by Yvonne McGruder:
This isn’t very geeky, but next to my computer I have two little basketballs with legs that you wind up and they run along…
Okay, I have a plastic Koopa Paratroopa next to my computer. beat that!
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
Okay, back to the original topic, I give The Game 3 stars and Brigadoom 3 1/2.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790
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Originally posted by Praxilla:
Ack! 790 mobile and armed! LOL, I like it. Nice job.
Thanks. In case it isn’t obvious, it’s supposed to be a 790 drone head on a Dalek “body” with a Skeksis arm, staff, and medallion incorperated. It looked better against a white background. The creature idea was part of an odd topic a while ago involving me, Hypatia, and Squish.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek
“I will love you forever!” -790
I just received word that the upcoming X-Files episode 9X15 will be titled Jump the Shark.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek
“I will love you forever!” -790
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From SadGeezer’s episode review:
He…declares his plutonic love for her.
“Plutonic” means “pertaining to fire or the underworld,” so it would be applicable to Prince but is not appropriate in that sentence. “Platonic,” in its neo-Classical sense (as opposed to vernacular) is appropriate for that sentance. I think that’s the word you’re looking for.
By the way, was Tad in Prime Ridge” played by the same actor as Tad in Wake the Dead?
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek
“I will love you forever!” -790
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
TV Planet recycle the dead bodies. Remember how Kai’s body was used on the drunk doctor’s wife. (The one that wanted to stab Stan and Slinka{Stans then TV misstress}).
I disagree. They used Kai’s body because it was already mostly mechanical, compatible with their technology. The rest were fully robots, possibly using salvaged parts. Perhaps the facial features and vocal characteristics were taken from living actors, and it is the souls of two of them who are reincarnated. Or perhaps we should just wait to see the episode.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek
“I will love you forever!” -790
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Myself, I’d be happy with just The Xev Show. But that’s just me. Literally.
Nah, that wouldn’t get much support from my disembodied head (waste of a trak, too). I’d rather see Leave it to Digby.
…and Ryan Cooley
as the Digby
Heart plus T.V. equals 790? Oh-keee…
[ 30-03-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
How dare you accuse me of acknowledging your statements selectively. I read all of your posts. Thoroughly.
That’s not what the evidence would suggest. Now, I’m going to say this one last time: I know what Brigadoon is and I knew that before I posted on this thread or saw the episode or read about it on this website. Postigat?
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I would also like to take the time to point out that you are not paying attention to what I say either. Let’s take a look at something I posted earlier in this thread…It seems, DalekTek790, that you completely ignored this post.
I read that. I read all of your posts on the threads I follow, with the exception of the song posts.
Now, I’ll explain this to you in simple terms so you can understand it: The choice of the title for Brigadoom is not self-evident from material within the episode, like the titles of other episodes of Lexx up to that point. I wanted to know the internal meaning of that term (not external associations).
Now, if you still don’t know what I mean, then this issue has officially passed into the realm of “your problem” (not mine).
I said you were right about the symbol. What more do you want from me?!?
Look, it’s not like I said there is no sexual symbolism in Lexx. If it’s apparent, I acknowledge it, like the Dark Lady’s phallic tower in Woz and the possible erotic connotations of certain events in Eating Pattern
You’re just saying a lot of things that have no relevance to this discussion in order to upset me and convince other board members that they shouldn’t listen to me.
Now I’ll address your other post:
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Originally posted by Aleck:
Yes, like the official information you bought into when you said things such as, “Season 4 will take place in a futuristic Utopia!” and “Jim Fowler of Wild Kingdom (who, BTW, is something like 70 years old by now) starred as Rooster in ‘Texx LEXX.'” and “The three goth girls are the same actresses who played the dominatrix and ballerinas from ‘Tunnels.'”
None of those were my fault. Apparently, Rooster in Texx Lexx was played by a different actor named Jim Fowler, and the compilers of the Internet Movie Database mistakenly put their credits under the same profile. It was their mistake, I just copied it. Besides, it’s not like I argued or anything after you corrected that. I trusted the site because it is a very large and popular website with a lot of information painstakingly compiled by a lot of people. I can’t just assume all the information there is flawed until I get proof otherwise. One can’t function in complete scepticism, a certain amount of faith has to be placed in some things in order to function in life, like I assume that I’m having this conversation and not dreaming or being fed sensations in a virtual reality machine.
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Of course, if it fits in with your reality tunnel, proof doesn’t seem to be required. It’s just bought into whole-hog. If it ventures outside of that a little bit, then some Official Stamp of Truth is demanded.
I need evidence before I’ll believe something. That’s what separates me from the superstitious peasantfolk of pre-scientific society.
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The truth of the matter can be found by anybody who can type the words “Brigadoom” and “Brigadoon” into a search engine. Took me about a minute and a half. But if you’re not the kind of person that can operate a piece of heavy machinery like Google, here’s your freakin’ answer…and that little tidbit of information comes from Splarka’s archives, and can be found right here.
I did that and I found that page, among others. It just doesn’t answer my question.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Just because you’ve never heard of the musical Brigadoon doesn’t mean that it has nothing to do with the Lexx episode Brigadoom.
As I said before (if you would pay attention to what I say and not acknowledge my statements selectively) I am familiar with Brigadoon. It is its relation to Lexx that is obscure.
If it was a portmanteau word then why didn’t you just up and say that when I first asked?
And it’s speculation until it is confirmed by an official source.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
And what they *don’t* see also conforms to their own mental architecture.
True, but not relevant.
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Again, define “average.”
Average is me.
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I tend to think that your cross-section of subjects isn’t as varied as it should be (you admit that you chose this woman that you were sure didn’t have “inappropriate thoughts” about the male anatomy, was she chosen specifically for this trait?).
No, I selected her because I wanted a female opinion and she is pretty much the only female I know who will talk to me.
The League of 20,000 Planets
From the third sentence of Lexx: “The Time Prophet predicted that I would be the one to destroy the Divine Order and the League of 20,000 Planets.” But in Texx Lexx Kai says that the Divine Order took over the League of 20,000 Planets. It existed before the Divine Order so why would it necessarily collapse when the Order was destroyed? Furthermore, episodes like Love Grows and 791 seem to indicate that the league, or significant parts of it, continued to operate as a unified society after the Divine Order was destroyed.
Lyekka’s Pod
In Lyekka Lyekka eats people with her pod, while the mimoid component merely subdues them. The End of the Universe establishes that the pod is a necessary part of the Trin because without it they cannot eat and will starve to death in a short time. Yet in Twilight only the mimoid goes down to Ruuma, yet it is able to consume two human beings without the assistance of the pod.Prince’s Life
In the episode May, the Prince of Fire is killed, but his followers revive his body in a ceremony involving a supernatural well. Then in Tunnels Prince is killed again. His body dissolves, and he revives himself with no help, away from the well, to come back as Xev.Prince and the Key
In The Key Prince takes the key to the Lexx from Stanley. But in P4X Prince, who has taken on a human body, cannot receive the Key because his lingering metaphysical qualities cause it to not recognize him as human.[ 29-03-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
Actually in regards to “Limey” I was told that was a reference to the fact English sailors sucked on Limes to ward off scurvy rather than the fact they put it into tea. Was I mistaken?
I was about to post the same thing. As for “Yankee,” the etymology is uncertain, but Thomas Anburey, a British officer who served under in the Revolutionary War, derived “Yankee” from the Cherokee word “eankke” meaning “coward,” which he says was applied to the inhabitants of New England by the Virginians for not assisiting them in the war with the Cherokees.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
So, would it then follow that if one *doesn’t* have sex on one’s brain at all that one would be less likely see sexual images *anywhere*? Even where intended? Like, say…umm…some intriguingly-designed watering cans?
No, it means their judgement would be sound since it would be free of such illusionistic elements. How people perceive the world is largely based on their own biases and mindsets, so things they see tend to conform to their mental architecture.
On a semi-related note, I feel I must confess that more recent research in the area of the alleged symbolism of the watering cans in Garden has unfolded in a manner not entirely supportive to my argument. I was running a still of the episode by people to settle the argument, and I felt that the study wouldn’t be complete until I got the opinion of a female subject. So I found a young lady who is level-headed and I’m sure does not have inappropriate thoughts about the male body and asked her what she saw in the picture of Stan and Lily. Much to my surprise she commented on the shape of the watering can and her interpretation of the image was identical to the one a couple members of the SadBoard perceived. So perhaps it was intentional symbolism. But it is so subtle as to be almost imperceptible to the average viewer.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
Brigadoon is a musical. It’s about a place that exists, to some extent, outside of time and space. The LEXX episode “Brigadoom” is a musical, and the episode is set in a place that exists, to some extent, outside of time and space. One letter of the original title was changed in order to create a pun, or play on words. As the musical is about the destruction of the Brunnen-G, and the episode is set during a time in which pretty much everyone is guaranteed to face an ultimate destruction, the episode was cleverly titled “Brigadoom.” Doom, get it? Death, destruction, doom and gloom? It’s a pun.
So you’re suggesting “Brigadoom” is a portmanteau word, “Brigadoon”+”doom?” Does that come from an official source, or is it just speculation? That seems very out of place in terms of Lexx titles. Season two titles fall into 5 groups:
1. Proper names, usually referenced in dialog (Mantrid, Woz).
2. Nouns dealing with elements in the episode, usually referenced in dialog (Terminal, The Web).
3. Phrases from dialog (Wake the Dead, Patches in the Sky).
4. Straightforward titles, not referenced in dialog (Stan’s Trial, The End of the Universe).
5. Sayings/expressions, not referenced in dialog (Love Grows, White Trash).
The word/name “Brigadoom” is never spoken in the episode, so that rules out 3. 4 and 5 are clearly exempt. After checking the Oxford English Dictionary, Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, and MacBain’s Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language, I came to the conclusion that “brigadoom” is not a real word, therefore not 2. So it would seem the only logical category it could fit in is 1 (the most common type of season two title). It looks like something is called Brigadoom, whether the phantasmal theater or Kai’s ghostly home town. But that is not clear (unless possibly on the D.V.D. or an interview I have not read). The title of Brigadoom is an enigma.
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Originally posted by Warsaw:
I think Wake the Dead showed an inability to control his actions and distinguish between right and wrong. He did as he was told, even wanting to kill Stan and Xev. So the question, I guess, is when did this change?
An excelent treatise on Kai’s personality can be found here. I also wrote a 5-page psychological profile of Kai, but much of it is saying the same things as the file.
This site has an exclusive picture from the new Lexx spinoff series.
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Originally posted by Bonnee:
Correspondinly, the notion of Lexx not really being about sex is also antithetical the show’s impetus/trajectory. Not only does the show constantly posit the idea that the universe’s life force is essentially libidinal, the symbol of Lexx as dragonfly underlines the themes of fertility and renewal. The dragonfly/flying penis motif is itself the messenger or midwife (read: bridge) between universes.
What?!?
If this is an extention of your pet theory that the Lexx is a phallic symbol, I find that very unlikely.
At best it’s eisegetic speculation and requires serious loosening of associations, at worst it’s borderline psychotic sexotropic pareidolia. Explanation: If you have sex on the brain, you’re going to see sex images everywhere. The Lexx is shaped like an insect. Nothing else. Not a male organ, not a nude woman. It has a distinct head, thorax, and abdomen, compound eyes, and an all-around arthropoid construction. It’s a dragonfly with no wings.I know it’s from Scottish folklore, but what does that have to do with the episode? And why is one letter changed? Maybe somebody should ask one of the Beans.
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Originally posted by Evil Lister:
Of the cast? I know they all have publicity photos, just wondering if someone has em scanned and posted to a web site.
I have searched far and wide for good publicity photos of the Lexx cast. I have found none. Here is the best of the handful of adequate images I found:
There was a higher res version of this on another site but now I can’t find it.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
It would be REALLY cool if you could hook it up to a computer network and reprogram it.
I think Stan, Kai, and Xev have been thinking the same thing.
I read somewhere that a planet in the shape of a torus would be as gravitationally sound as a sphere, if such a thing were to form. I think one of the theoretical methods for the formation of a toroidal planet was if a small yet dense object were to pass through it, stealing away part of its mass and shift its center of gravity from a point to a ring. Unfortunately, I can’t remember the title or the author of that piece.
Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker was a German astrophysicist who, among other things, formulated a theory for the formation of the Solar System that is essentially the same model that is believed in and taught today. He said that, given the vast amount of planetary systems that probably exist in our galaxy, toroidal planetoids are a distinct possibility. If his theory is accurate then they could form through coalescence of dust and planetesimals in the same manner as spherical planetoids, without requiring the intervention of something like a neutron star. Anyway, that was in Asimov’s New Guide to Science by Isaac Asimov (I think the 80s edition, I don’t have the book with me to check). I’m inclined to believe the object seen in White Trash is a possible one.
I wish I could refer you to a good site, but I haven’t been able to find much of any webpages on Weizsäcker (in English, that is; I don’t know if you read German but I don’t, so I can’t tell if any of the German websites contain information relevant to this topic). It’s possible some of my details may be misremembered, and I really don’t want to give you inaccurate information. But I’m afraid I don’t know where I can tell you to check up on this.
I don’t know if the term “Weizsäcker object” is actually used in scientific circles, that’s just what I used in my pervious posts because it seemed as good a name as any.
I believe that if White Trash were an episode of a Star Trek series there would have been lines explaining and describing the object. But Lexx usually does not take the time to deal with such things, and tends to present science fiction elements with just enough explanatory dialog that’s necessary. It’s a matter of style, and I don’t think it means that the sci-fi concepts in Lexx are implausible, or not well thought out.
[ 27-03-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by the Frey:
I received this email from Alex Busby who said he was working on his last episode of Lexx. He said that I could repost it for all of you to read.—– Original Message —–
From: “Alex Busby”
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 03:35 PM
Subject: taste treatsOn behalf of the Lexx visual effects department I would like to thank you
for your delicious treats that you sent us. We have been so busy with effects that we
are just now catching up with this thank you to you.
I hate to tell you this, Frey, but that’s a form letter. Alex Busby sent me the same letter after I sent him photos of my Lyekka paintings and Insect sculpture.
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Kidding.
Okay, ranting continued:
What really burned me was that ad, when the second season of Lexx was airing, that kept saying “sex.” It implied that all the show was about was sex. And what’s even more messed up was, in the add they would show short sexuallike clips from the show with the “sex” part, but the last one was of the Lexx eating something. THE LEXX’S MOUTH IS NOT SEXY! Who puts those things together?!?
Maybe they could confuse viewers by ending one of their schizo-voyeuristic promos with a clip from Woz: “The sick need for penetration turns your brain to mush!”
It’s a panel of somethingish whatzit that looks like it has suction cups on it, but that is impossible since insects do not have suction cups.
A pop debate. Have we exhausted all our topics or what?
I say Pepsi is definately the better of the two. My favorite cola was World Classic Cola, but you can’t find it around here anymore.
I don’t drink that much pop, actually. When I have a lot of caffeinated beverages I get to acting a little weird.
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I wouldn’t say they are out of character. Kai has a history of saying things about himself that are inconsistent with his actual behavior. I believe that kai has vaint perceptions of emotions and motivations, whether he likes to acknowledge them or not.
Why is the episode called Brigadoom? Does anybody know?
I mean, was that the name of the theater? Is it a Brunnen-G term? Is it an X-Files-style arcane title that is actually a word that somehow connects to the episode? The word (name?) “Brigadoom” is never spoken in the episode’s dialog (in the U.S. cut, at least), so its significance is unclear.
790 has had a lot of good lines.
“Zev of B3K, don’t leave me. No one will ever worship you like I do.”
“I’m with you, Zev.”
“Don’t you even think about it, fugitive! She’s my woman.”
“Oh, bosom of electrical delight…!”
“The man is an idiot.”
“Boxes, baby.”
“Did you hurt yourself, love gunk?”
“Zev, Zev, Zev, Zev, Zev, Zev, Zev, Zev. Have you seen my Zev?”
“This is the happiest moment of my existence!”
“No sign of the dead one, sweet one”
“Bliss to the power of bliss times bliss, I live again!”
“Who cares?”
“Oh, horror! It touches my beloved.”
“You’re a man? That’s news.”
“As you wish, luscious dish.”
“I only say these things because I’m crazy about you.”
“And you call yourself an assassin!”
“Please, I’m concentrating!”
“Eye’s like jewels, skin sublime, Zev was the Zeviest of all time!”
“You give carbon molecules a bad name.”
“I have a bad feeling about this.”
“You may think that…”
“Put me down, you irritating, self-righteous, manipulative, pseudo-religious charlatan!”
“I would like to point out that for Stanley Tweedle, being brain-dead is not a particularly significant change of state from normal.”
“Oh, Stan. I’m armed.”
“I fight for Xev.”
“Oh, Xev! Oh, darling Xev, I’ve failed you. The robot head who loves you has let you down!”
“Yo’ mama.”
“This is getting stupid.”——————
“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior, The Daleks: Episode 4-The Ambush
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist, The Dark Crystal
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790, Lexx 1.1: I Worship His Shadow
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Scifi’s real problem with Lexx ads is how they do them; completely wrong! Only one lexx ad has ever made me want to watch the show. (That was the ad they showed breifly to start off s4, okay and maybe The Game ad) Scifi’s lexx ads concentrate on the brainless sex portion of the show. Which anyone who’s watched a few epsiodes, knows is not what lexx is about.
Last week we saw that girl flirting with Kai. That was like 5 min out of the whole epsiode and far from the real plot. In Dutch Treat we saw the intro to Xev and Bunny getting it on. That was the last 2 min of the episode, it had nothing to do with the plot of the episode. If it’s really necessary I’ll post other examples later if any one needs em. (I don’t feel like typing this rant all night)
With ads like this its no wonder why chronicle fans at scifi.com/chronicle, think lexx is senseless stupid sex humour. If they were to watch an episode they’d realize how similar their show is to lexx in terms of oddball humour.
With so many sex filled ads, I personaly wonder how DT ever came accross this show.
It seems I’ve acquired a reputation on this board.
I just saw a preview in 1999 with a space ship and shots of robots and aliens. I figured “Hey, another Star Trek-style show! I hope this one’s better than Farscape.”I don’t think it was a good idea on Sci-Fi’s part to focus on the sex and weirdness. It gives the show a distorted image. Like once when I mentioned I watched Lexx one of the people present (the only one who had heard of it) was shocked because she thought Lexx was “soft-core porn for geeks.”
If I were to write the promotional ads they would be different.
“See all the wonders the universes have to offer.”
“Explore Earth throught the lens of Lexx.”
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
First off Daleks the expert on the Insect essence so hopefully he’ll jump in here. But remember that the final HDS was not HDS. It was a human with the insect conciousness and his own conciousness.
I’m flattered you consider me the authority on the subject. I was waiting for Valdron to say something.
Well, I think, in order for a host to become His Divine Shadow, the essence has to be bonded to them. Then bonding is more than what happened to Rock Hound or Yottskry or Kai, so they were never really Divine Shadows. The Insect essence is unable to completely extract itself from the brain of host it has been bonded to, so there is a remanent essence. That is why the Divine Predecessors still think like Divine Shadows, and why Kai doesn’t.The Divine Predecessors may have small vestiges of their human origins left (cleansing may be a selective destruction of brain centers; eliminate memories, personality, and free will without damaging the parts necessary to operate the body; so maybe it’s impossible to completely destroy the humanity). That may be part of the reason why they have different personalities. Alternately, that may be because they have been shaped by different experiences, and memories are not all carried over to the next host brain.
Insects, and thus His Divine Shadow, seem to have emotions, but not in the same way typical humans do. They are highly intellectualized and not as strong. They may have been something like Kai in mentality, but with motivations and probably stronger feelings. At any rate, they were logical, if not entirely fair in their judgements.
This changed when the Insect essence was bonded to an uncleansed human host. The new Divine Shadow acted human in ways. He was more emotional, and thus more erratic and impulsive. He had passions. The host may very well have been an unstable individual. He was described as “a truly viscious human being” and looked like a crazy Nazi skinhead, so I think it’s safe to assume he was a sociopath of some sort. He decided to act swiftly and severely, destroying 20,000 planets rather than investigating them for Heresy. The cleansing of human flesh was probably part of the Insect’s original plan, but the new Divine Shadow carried it out ahead of schedule, so it was over six months after he had become Divine Shadow, and probably wasn’t carried out properly (if he had intended to destroy all human life int he League of 20,000 Planets, he failed; look at all the people and societies left in the second season). His Divine Shadow said himself that the Giga Shadow was prematurely reborn.
I think the personality of an uncleansed brain thet the essence is bonded to becomes inextricably interwoven with the Insect essence. That is why, even in the insect body, His Shadow did unreasonable things like chase one little bug to its doom, and still spoke with the voice of its last host.
A semi-relevant note: The Divine Predecessors apparently believed that time passed in cycles (though this was not made part of Divine canon). The last Divine Shadow, however, did not hold such a belief. This may be because of the religious beliefs of the culture the human host came from. Due to preconceptions of the human half, the conclusion that time only moves in a straight line and prophecies are not possible was drawn, and he was willing to waiger his life on that faith by letting Kai loose.
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Originally posted by the Frey:
So, DT. Tell me, what exactly made you think that there was the remotest possibility that the two conventions were co-joined? The twisted reasoning on that little jaunt of fancy would be of interest to me, and possibly a few others.
I don’t know. I’m not really sure what either UnCon is, I thought they could be sub-sections of some big weirness event I’m somehow oblivious to. Who thought up the name UnCon? I thought maybe that was their inspiration. Sheesh, it was just a question.
Why are you getting all harsh on me? The question all parents on the 20,000 Planets dread: Where do Cluster lizards come from?
Okay, I’m getting serious, now…quote:
Originally posted by Valdron:
With all due respect to Dalektek790, I’m
not sure that Xev’s statements in the third
season about Cluster Lizards are definitive.
Cluster Lizards are apparently very tolerant of heat, or at least Xev is. But where does she get her information on the planet where Cluster Lizards come from? She grew up in a box.
I should think she received some kind of education in her Skinner box. She knew about the Arch Traitor Stanley Tweedle. I think it’s reasonable to assume she was taught some facts about other planets and life forms.
Alternately, she may have filled in what little knowledge of Cluster lizards she has with speculation. She knows that she has remarkable heat resistance, for instance, and has inferred that the original home planet of the Cluster lizards was a hot one. I’d imagine Xev has done a lot of thinking on this subject. After all, she didn’t seem to have much to do on the Lexx besides file her nails and stare at Kai’s frozen body, and Cluster lizards are naturally curious (or so she says).
Xev does seem to have limited knowledge of her own form. She told Prince that she was half Cluster lizard, while in Terminal it was established (if I recall correctly) that she was 17%.
Kai would really be the one to ask.
I doubt Cluster lizards were brought to the Cluster as parasites of the Insect. If they were than the people who brought them to the surface would have had to know that there was a big Insect in there, and suspicions would surround the creatures’ discovery. Plus there would be no ecosystem in which they could live in the Cluster, without acknowledging the existence of the Insect. It is possible that they were Insect parasites, but I find that unlikely (they seem more like a Brunnen-G instrument of Insect destruction). I also don’t think they are a subtype of Insects. I’m sorry, but I just can’t see insects no matter how hard I look at Cluster lizards. It is possible they are part of the same evolutionary lineage, but not the same phylum.
I think they were probably transported from a planet in the League of 20,000 Planets for use in executions. Their original home planet, which may have been destroyed, was a hot world (but not a desert planet, since Cluster lizard pseudopods are made for gripping hard surfaces, not sand). The pseudopods and rolling could be artefacts of a low-gravity environment. It may have been a Mercury-like world with a thin atmosphere and extreme temperature fluctuations, explaining the Cluster lizard tolerence for vacuum and cold. But it would have been very, very hot at least some of the time, and had very little foliage (at least in the regions Cluster lizards inhabited. Alternately, there could have been an impermeable, greenhouse-acting mist that made vision difficult, hence the Cluster lizards’ lack of eyes. Or maybe that is because of extreme darkness (they could have lived in caves or air pockets, or far away from their sun, the heat being generated geothermically). I have yet to formulate a sound theory as to why they have the “flowering” mouths.
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Originally posted by Valdron:
The speculation that the Web/Net creature might well have been an Insect predator/parasite is actually a fairly good one. It’s hard to imagine another niche for such a massive hunter predator. What else would they go for.
There’s some speculation on the nature of the Net under Rockham’s “From what was Lexx bred?” topic.
Another pointless list from DalekTek790. This one is supposed to be all of the songs heard on Lexx, arranged by episode in order of appearance (including cut versions). But there are probably sveral errors and much missing information. The numbers in brackets indicate where that particular son can be found. The first number represents the soundtrack C.D. (1 is “Tales from a Parallel Universe,” 2 is “Lexx”), the second is the track number.
I Worship His Shadow
-Brunnen-G War Chant (also called “Yo-A-Oh”) [1-11]
-Battle of the Universe (used in subsequent seasons as end theme) [1-05]
-Cleric Chant
-Cluster Anthem [1-01]
-Prisoner Transport [1-02]
-Snake Chase [1-03]
-The Lexx Escape [1-12]
-Shadows and Prophets [1-16]
-Fractal Core (used in German version as end theme)
-Cryo-Chamber [1-08]
Super Nova
-Planet Cruise (used in German version as opening theme) [1-06]
-Zev’s Shower [1-13]
-Brunnis [1-19]
-Moth Ride (contains “Brunnen-G War Chant”) [1-21]
-Poet Man [1-07]
-Fantasy Dance [1-20]
-Milk-Fed Boys [1-18]
Eating Pattern
-The Pattern Song
The Giga Shadow
-Giga Shadow March [1-12]
-Cleric Theme [1-14]
-Feppo’s Party [1-17]
-Love Muscle [1-09]
-Defiled by Fate
-The Stanley Song
-Kai Collapse [1-15]Mantrid
-Lexx Theme 1 (contains “Cleric Chant” and remix of “Cleric Theme”; 1 of 2 pieces used as -opening theme in season 2) [2-10]
-Mantrid Medley [2-19]
-Final Scene [2-27]
Terminal
-Lexx Theme 2 (contains “Cleric Chant”; 1 of 2 pieces used as opening theme in season 2) [2-28]
-I’m Leaving [2-25]
-Zev Dies [2-26]
Lyekka
-Stan’s Dream [2-17]
-Lyekka Theme [2-17]
-Potataho [2-17]
Luvliner
-Luvliner Promotional Music
-Holograms [2-11]
Lafftrak
-The Xev Show [2-23]
-Demented Chase [2-24]
Stan’s Trial
-All He Wants is Sex [2-04]
Love Grows
-Galley [2-09]
-Seduction [2-07]
White Trash
-Hoedown Music
791
-Disco Music
-Girl Awakes (also called “Norb Launch”) [2-22]
Nook
-Medieval Dance [2-21]
-Angel Song [2-05]
Patches in the Sky
-The Dream (originally from “Paint Cans” soundtrack)
Woz
-The Brightness Song
The Web
-Xev’s Dream [2-13]
Brigadoom
-The Brunnen-G
-Dull, Dull, Dull
-Go Beyond
-Amnesia Song
-I Must Leave
-The Time Prophet’s Song
-The End of the Brunnen-G
-Accusations
-The Trial
-Two Hearts
-Death Song
-We are the Brunnen-G
-A Good Way to Die
The End of the Universe
-Huffy Rider (originally from “790 Robot Head” by 790 Robot Head)Fire and Water
-Lexx Theme 3 (contains remix of “Brunnen-G War Chant” and “The Lexx Escape”; used as opening theme in seasons 3 and 4) [2-01]
-Prince to Lexx (remix of “The Lexx Escape”) [2-03]
May
-Prince Theme (used in reprise) [2-20]
-Gondola Ride [2-18]
-Water Tune
Garden
-Into the Garden [2-16]
-The Garden Song [2-14]
-Garden Theme [2-14]
Battle
-A Walk in the Desert [2-06]
Girltown
-The Search [2-12]Texx Lexx
-The Cluster Lizard Song
P4X
-The Stanley Tweedle Song
Xevivor
-Xevivor Theme
The Rock
-Happy Hour
-Brunnen-G Remix 1
-Brunnen-G Remix 2
-Brunnen-G Remix 3
Magic Baby
-Magic, Magic, Baby
Prime Ridge
-Prime Ridge Theme
-Stan the Man
Moss
-Wild, Wild Lexx [2-08]——————
Vaiyo a oh;
Vaiyo a oh, home vaah ray;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G.
Vaiyo a oh, home vaah ray;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G.[ 25-03-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
