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Trini-Give me your e-mail address, and I can send you a copy of my timeline.
However I must warn you that much of the information in it is conjecture, and some may be irrelevent (I don’t have the time to edit it right now).
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Tell me, is it just that you guys are in a sci fi lull, are you bored with cult TV sci fi at the moment or are you all out at the pub?
Well, My reason is that since Lexx ended, I’ve kinda been taking a break from science fiction. I’ve mainly been watching Japanese animé and reading classic fiction; not paying much attention to the sci-fi genre.
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Neat picture.
There are a bunch of sites with 3-D rendered Daleks (I’ve actually gone out looking for such things). Anyway, if you haven’t already visited it, you’d want to check out the Dalek Extermination Page, a great site with “ray-traced” Daleks of almost every variety seen on the show and movies.
As fot the issue of Dalek brains, that ties into the common misconception that Daleks are robots or cyborgs. They aren’t (besides Davros and the Mark IV Daleks). The Dalek creature is a small mutant with tentacles and taloned feet, and a sickly green pigmentation. They operate their robotic war machines like vehicles from inside the central segment (the one with the arms). The Doctor Who Technical Manual had the Dalek creatures residing inside the skirt (the section with the balls), but episodes produced after its publication (The Five Doctors and Resurrection of the Daleks) contradicted this by clearly showing the mutants as residing in the midsection, and I consider that a more reliable source.
In the very first Dalek episode, the Doctor and Ian forced the dome off a disabled Dalek machine and removed the horrifying (yet unseen by the audience) creature that was operating it, so Ian could use the casing as a disguise. That is probably what you’re thinking of, although similar scene took place in Planet of the Daleks.
At any rate, it’s not unusual to have dreams about Doctor Who.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior, The Daleks: Episode 4-The Ambush
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist, The Dark Crystal
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790, Lexx 1.1: I Worship His Shadow
Lexx had to address Earth for the mere fact that that is where the audience is. Whether it was as a pristine utopia under attack, a post-apocalyptic nightmare with inhabitants struggling to survive, or a near present-day world with self-destructive forces at play, it was bound to show up some time.
Any of the following would make a good dead assassin:
-Doug Hutchison
-Sean Patrick Flanery
-Vince Vaughn
-Jean-Claude Van Damme
-Johnny Depp
-Val Kilmer
-Liam Neeson[ 05-06-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by Son Of Bester:
Bravenet? Waddat be?
Up until December of 2000 the message board at Sadgeezer.com was a Bravenet service. That meant that topics can be branched, responses can have individual titles, and every post disappears completely after a while.
In response to the topic question, I would probably be the Doctor. It would be so neat to be able to travel to all those exotic locales, and relive moments in history.
Either him or Jen (since that planet he lives on is the neatest!).
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Originally posted by Chameleon:
In Stan Down, I think the guy in charge of supervising Stan’s bashing was at the start of Little Blue Planet, the one who said Macaroni’ and not Marconi.
Of course, I may be wrong…
I deliberately ommitted actor re-use, since that’s a topic in itself.
I assumed he was one of the clerics, but he may very well have been that Austral-B Heretic (who some fans speculate was Thodin’s son).
Okay, here’s my proposal of the disputed names (based on phonetics, linguistics, and various demi-official sources):
Aurelium 4
Battle of Fermarian
Farley Cuckle
Castle Drakul
Enox
Gigerotta
Krito
Leesterians
Dr. Ernst Longbore
Lusticon
Macomarian Plague
Gubby Marx
Argon Protopi
Ruuma
Schnek
Schlemmi
Smoor
Sub-Nebuli
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Heh heh heh. I think it’s pretty funny, DT, that you manage to pay excellent attention to some of the finer details of this show but somehow missed the part where a girl was taking off her clothes! LOL!
Oh, ha ha.
I think it’s most likely representitive of the cycle of time.
It always seemed to me like a speech Kai or someone else was giving to the other newborns the night before the Fore Shadow attacked (“Gather ’round the wheel, my friends; And make amends, and make amends; All this is about to end.”).
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Originally posted by Insect Overlord:
Sure he has. Pluto, recent history…series 4.
But Pluto isn’t a planet, it’s a Kuiper asteroid.
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I Worship His Shadow -Every other “arm” on the Fore Shadow has a satellite dish.
-The 6 craft seem to be coming from the part of Brunnis-2 that is the last to be destroyed.
-The images that appear in Kai’s extracted memories are of a man, the Fore Shadow‘s control pod, the Time Prophet, something that looks like a church window, the Fore Shadow, a small boy with the Brunnen-G hairstyle and clothes, and the destruction of Brunnis-2.
-Variations on the same latticework appear below Stan’s viewscreen, on both types of robots, on the Divine Predecessors’ pillars, and in the debris among the Predecessors on the Lexx.
-Someone climbs by the screen behind Stan’s bed when the wakeup call is playing.
-Thodin’s insect-shaped container looks a lot like the flying robots in The Dark Zone.
-The docking bay Stan works at has the Seal of the Divine Order on the wall next to the Arabic number “511.”
-The exchange between Stan and the line officer is very much like the events in the Paul Donovan’s 1992 short film The Dark Zone.
-The scene where Stan throws hex nuts at the robot drones is also similar to The Dark Zone, where he throws crumpled-up notes at an area housing a robot drone, trying to get one in a hole.
-The robot drone in front of Stan moves slightly.
-The tattoos on the new Divine Shadow host, when viewed from above, form the shape of an insect.
-One “strand” of the essence separates from the rest and enters the new host through the nostril.
-The eyes of the old Divine Shadow host remain black even after the essence is passed.
-The brain cut from the old host has burn marks on it.
-There is red on the inside of His Shadow’s robes.
-There is a whirlwind-like effect over the Time Prophet’s head.
-In the flashback, Kai has hair hanging in front of his right eye, instead of his usual left eye.
-The Divine Predecessors are flown to the Lexx in an Insect-shaped craft piloted by a robot drone.
-16 brains are visible in the craft.
-Every single robot drone we see is numbered “790.”
-One of the prisoners on the hanging slabs appears to have blue skin, but it is actually a veil-like net surrounding his body.
-There are Star Trek-style purple and red fluorescent lights below the prisoner viewscreen.
-The images that flash across the screen during Argon Protopi’s memory search are of a dark-haired woman’s face, hands removing a woman’s undergarments, a man’s face, another woman’s face, and finally the memory of the Divine temple.
-The organs that fall onto the plate are a kidney, a lung, the entire brain, and an eyeball; the other eyeball is in the flesh collected in the bag.
-In the shot of the Lexx’s mouthparts devouring the bagged flesh, it has discernible glossae and paraglossae.
-There are two Divine clerics in the background in Zev’s memory, and one 790 drone.
-The hair color options on the lusticon are brown, blue, green, red, and blonde.
-The cursor starts on blonde, then is moved up to brown then down to blue; but by the time the second phase of the love slave transformation has begun, it is on green.
-All of the tall security robots are numbered “1266.”
-Green chariots like the one 790 summons can be seen wheeling around when Stan visits the correction center; some are empty, others are carrying cylinders full of clear liquid.
-The medallion Thodin is wearing has the image of an arachnid on it, like a spider or tick.
-Thodin also has a patch on his right side depicting a dragonfly.
-The masked man who throws brains at the Cluster lizards has two Cluster Awards of Merit.
-Some of the people in the audience at Cobalt Stadium are waving cards in the shape of stylized Cluster lizards.
-Non-Roman characters can be seen under the image of Zev when the camera scans her.
-The same type of characters, italicized, can be seen displayed vertically in Bugbomb’s vision.
-His Divine Shadow’s key is blue, while the Heretics’ key is yellow.
-The female officer’s body is not vaporized by the black pack, only her head.
-One of the Austral-B Heretics’ hand in left clinging to the scaffolding when the rest of him is vaporized by a black pack.
-The new Divine Shadow is barefoot, whereas the last one had black boots.
-The wounds inflicted on the Divine Shadow host have healed by the time of the trepan scene.
-When Kai crushes the brain, the memories shown is the exact same montage of images as when his memory was taken, only played backwards.
-When His Shadow jumps from the bridge, translucent red wing-like extensions deploy from his robes.
-Several of the smaller ships in the Cluster’s 24th Attack Wing are seen to be vaporized when they attempt to enter the fractal core.
-The end credits use the British spelling of “center” for the “Correction Centre Guard” credit.
-The disclaimer at the end of the end credits reads “All universes, characters depicted, names used, and incidents portrayed in this film are fictitious. No identification with actual persons is intended or should be inferred. Blah, blah, blah … Any resemblance of the characters portrayed to actual persons, living or dead is purely coincidental.”
-There is an advertisement for http://www.lexx.com in big letters above the production information.Eating Pattern -There are things in the sky like blood vessels.
-The Wist clone crosses her eyes when she orally implants the worm in Stanley.The Giga Shadow -The man Kai kills in the protoblood flashback is wearing the same outfit as the frontier customs officer in I Worship His Shadow.
Mantrid -A piece of the Cluster including Cobalt Stadium is visible as debris near Mantrid’s planet.
-The effect of crossing universes is different than in I Worship His Shadow.Terminal -When the plasma from the terminal’s engines begins to come into the chamber Kai is in, a purple, essence-like substance floats about the room.
Lyekka -The Lexx’s interior has changed.
-There is a vermiform, apricot-colored tentacle at the center of the plant pod when it “takes root,” which forms into the Lyekka simulacrum’s lower body and legs, though this metamorphosis is obscured from the viewer by the outer tentacles.
-When Lyekka appears nude, she has no navel, but in subsequent episodes when she is clothed she does.
-Right after Kai makes the joke about it being a good dream he scans Stan’s face for a reaction.Love Grows -The storm the stripper ship gets caught in looks similar to the ion veil in Lyekka.
White Trash -One of the Golleans on Vermal appears to be Pa’s identical twin.
Patches in the Sky -The women in Fruitcake’s dream appear to be love slaves.
Woz -The Dark lady’s love slave guards seem to be wearing blinders.
-The original Zev is credited as Lisa Hynes, whereas in I Worship His Shadow it was spelled “Hines.”Fire and Water -790’s eyes are pinker than they were in the last season, even before Kai’s repairs.
-The Lexx’s bridge has changed color, but not shape, between the flashback and the main events.May -The moth breeders in this episode are similar to the robot drone in The Dark Zone.
K-Town -Several bricked-over windows are visible inside of K-Town.
-There are five balloons visible at the end of the episode.Tunnels -The bureaucrats in Hogtown are dressed the same as Mantrid in the previous episode.
Girltown -The cage Stan’s head is in is similar to the headcage in Stan’s Trial.
The Beach -From this episode on, 790’s left eye is slightly bluish, while the right eye is the same pink it has been for the entire season.
-In the scene where Stan washes up on the Beach it is apparent that Brian Downey is wearing some sort of wetsuit under his costume.Heaven and Hell -All of the souls in the Inferno appear nude, except for Stan.
-If you look really close, you can make out the western coast of North America on the little blue planet at the end.Little Blue Planet -The Lexx’s interior has changed again.
P4X -Tina is staring at Kai as he is talking to Dr. Longbore, foreshadowing the events in Xevivor.
-The newspaper Kai is reading has an ad for “space age shoes” for $12.95, marked down from $80.00.Stan Down -This episode makes use of the famous Apollo 17 photograph of Earth.
Xevivor -The Xevivor voting ballot is similar to the “Butterfly ballot” design.
Walpurgis Night -The bats that scare Stan are not vampire bats, they are too big.
-The sign on the inn says “CLOACA,” which is Latin for “bath” but also means “sewer” and in scientific terminology is the organ reptiles and birds have in place of a rectum.Vlad -Vlad has a red version of the Seal of the Divine Order on her chest.
Haley’s Comet -There is a grill over 790’s mouthscreen in the final scene.
Viva Lexx Vegas -The lettering on Drago’s sarcophagus is not Egyptian, Coptic, or the characters seen in I Worship His Shadow.
Trip -Kai’s hair is not restored to how it appeared when he was alive.
-The scene where Stan sees Xev rolling first in the corridor to his left, then the one to his right is similar to a scene in Aliens.
-The scene where Stan has a hallucinatory conversation with the food spigot is similar to a scene in the drug-themed horror film Naked Lunch.Yo Way Yo -Even though the asteroid is twice the size of the moon it is not spherical.
-The scenes where the asteroid looms over various cities is similar to scenes in Independence Day.
-The names on Dr. Longbore’s laptop in no way correspond to the names he reads off.
-Dr. Longbore’s vocalizer unit is knocked away from his body when Priest shoves him, yet he is able to speak and his voice has the same electronic undertones.
-This episode makes use of the famous Apollo 17 photograph of Earth.
-The Lexx has even fewer ocular parabola working than in Texx Lexx when Stan asks it to fire.
-When 790 orders the Lexx to blow up Earth, more of the ocular parabola work and the beam is similar to when the Lexx was fully functional.
-The flight into the asteroid is similar to a scene in Independence Day.
-Kai’s kamikaze flight closely parallels the opening scenes of I Worship His Shadow.
-Kai laughs when he sees that the mass of the Higgs boson ends in a repeating decimal.
-The key to the new Lexx is blue, like His Shadow’s key in I Worship His Shadow.
-Two of the pieces of debris seen floating near 790 are exactly the same shape.
-“The End” appears in a different typeface than the lettering in I Worship His Shadowand the episode titles.[ 08-05-2002: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
Yeap exactly that. She muttered something to the effect of “It’s really hot here” and tore it off revealing a nice set of abs and a tatoo around her bellybutton. And shes an Inny!
Did it really show that? I have no memory of that. I didn’t notice the change in season three.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Nymph is a good name. No offense, but not for the reasons you gave it. Nymph a nythological being of sheer beauty. Beauy so great it could blind or even kill a man!
But by todays slang, nymph or nympho, someone who like to have sex all the time. Sounds like Stan and Xev to me.
Naturally I know about the mythological origin of the word nymph (I am an expert on Classical mythology). But I think in the typical modern usage it comes up mostly to describe insects (like those creepy-crawly pre-adult cicadas that are everywhere in the summer). At any rate, it’s a cool name because it describes the new Lexx and is only one syllable. I can totally see Stan saying “Nymph, blow up that planet” (though Stan hasn’t actually blown up a planet since Patches in the Sky over 4,000 years ago).
I’ve got my computer working so I can frequent this board again.
I think we should see a continuation. Stan and Xev in the new Lexx exploring the Dark Zone looking for a home and trying to counter Prince’s mission of evil. There should be no more reincarnations on the other planets (maybe some of the women on the Noah are from the first three seasons, though). It should be similar to the first two seasons. There should be minimal story arcing.
The new Lexx should be revealed to have distinct properties that set it apart from the old Lexx. Stan should act more mature and less cowardly. Xev should get a real outfit. 790 has to be reset and possible repaired (it would be silly to have a character mourning over a dead character in every episode), and be quirky as opposed to out-and-out evil. A new member of the Lexx crew is needed, someone with Kai-like knowledge of the Dark Zone and a few more I.Q. points than the surviving trio, but should not be a normal human (or a re-hash of Kai). Stan and Xev should be able to get out of situations on their own, without the indestructable character always stepping in at the last minute. Maybe Kai’s spirit can appear Obi-Wan Kenobi-style once in a while to warn/inform.
The new series should have things to set it apart from the original. We need to see new things as opposed to continuations of old things. The formula needs to be modified at least somewhat. It should be even less like the old show than one of its seasons was from any other season.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
too early to say. haven’t seen the final episode.
Well, now the fourth season’s over. What do you think?
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Originally posted by Aleck:
The irony in their name being that they have yet to engage in any form of scientific investigation of claims of the paranormal. Like the scientific establishments of the 17th and 18th centuries (who refused to admit that meteorites existed because it was heretical to say that rocks fell from the heavens), they ignore hard evidence if it fails to support presupposed theories. They’ve also been known to engage in character assassination of scientists whose own investigations fail to support popular scientific dogma. They’re a happy bunch of know-it-alls.
Whoa, you agree with me.
It should also be noted that the Straczynski term Psi Cop is a joke reference to C.S.I.C.O.P. The Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal is powerful skeptical group devoted to the systematic debunking of any claims that are not consistent with traditional science, such as extraterrestrial life and psychic abilities.
Did they ever establish what happened to the rest of her costume? Or is it like her hair? I noticed that a piece disappeared some time between Brizon and Texx Lexx, and later determined that the change occurred sometime around the end of season two and the beginning of season three. And I was eventually able to convince others that I wasn’t imagining it. So, Do you have any clue what happened?
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Originally posted by Aleck:
A reincarnation of the Wozard is exactly what he was, and I think it was obvious. I never once thought he was HDS. For one, the Wozard *was*, theoretically speaking, a renegade scientist, in that he was trained to use the Lusticon and had built one himself. Secondly, he surrounded himself with a team of fanatically devoted misfits. Thirdly, he was obsessed with physical beauty (the Wozard took it to one extreme, Longbore to another). Fourthly, he’s homicidically unstable. Fifthly, he has an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Sixthly, as if it hadn’t been driven home *enough*, HDS is dead. Kaput. Over. The insect menace died out completely in S1, with a brief cameo appearance in “Mantrid.” That’s all she wrote.
I doubt seriously that the Beans meant to mislead people into thinking that Longbore was *ever* HDS, any more than I believe that they meant to “trick” people into thinking that Prince and Duke were insects. Perhaps if one is *looking* for insects under every rock, one might imagine such a thing, but it’s been clear for a while now that there is no insect threat any more. The carrots weren’t insects, as was theorized, the rulers of Fire weren’t insects, as was theorized, and Longbore wasn’t an insect.
But he sounded exactly like His Divine Shadow. When I first watched Texx Lexx, Kai’s in this bunker, and all of a sudden I hear the voice of His Divine Shadow! I look, and it’s coming from a person who looks like Stephen Hawking. I thought that was especially funny because I had always thought His Shadow sounded like Stephen Hawking, and it looked like the makers were taking advantage of that. Wat I mean is, the impact of Dr. Longbore is as someone who appears to be His Divine Shadow. The makers would have realized that, if they used Walter Borden’s voice with he same electronic modulations as season one and Mantrid, and attached it to a character that appears to be a cult leader, viewers who had seen the first two seasons would think he was some incarnation of His Divine Shadow. Perhaps in the first drafts Dr. Longbore was His Divine Shadow, but they decided to rewrite it to exclude the reference, but didn’t drop the voice. At any rate, the immediate fan reaction is to consider him to be His Shadow.
I rewatched Gondola, and Duke’s speech now doesn’t seem that Insectoid, and even subtly hints the upcoming revelation. But, going entirely on what we knew about the Lexx universe at that point(before seeing The Beach and Heaven and Hell), that Duke was an Insect essence inhabiting human hosts was the most apparent explanation.
It was never specifically stated that the very insect-like probes in season four were not built using Insect technology.
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Originally posted by Elmey:
I think S4 demonstrated that the intelligence level was not particularly high!
Just to clarify: I was talking about the people Longbore was going to leave behind, even though they did most of the work building the Noah. When Priest came in I figured he would take them with him, but instead he took off and they died. I thought that was awful.
Kai never loved Xev. She’s not his type. Come to think of it, none of the women who have fallen in love with the dead assassin were worthy of him. I would have been angered if Kai said he loved Xev in Yo Way Yo.
I think some fans just have these romantic notions about Kai’s relationship with Zev (and later Xev) that they have held for so long they can’t bring themselves to abandon them. The fact of the matter is, he never loved her. Period.
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Originally posted by Squishy:
Patrica’s cute, but not an outstanding beauty, Louise has got my vote, she has got that lovely accent and a real naughtiness about her, and she is a real beauty.
Doreen is not far behind her, but Doreen is more of a supermodel type girl, looks a bit like Kate Moss.
Never really liked Xenia, and there is a likeness to AJ with the lips, but neither strike me as being feminine in appearance, I think it’s their well formed shape’s that got the blood pressure racing, but I could never describe them as being cute looking.
Okay, I’m back. Doreen Jacobi is pretty close to my concept of the perfect woman (in appearance only). Louise Wischermann is strikingly beautiful, but most of the appeal of her character is the character itself, plus the voice and mannerisms. Wist is also great in terms of a creative and well-written character, but she is also probably the most beautiful woman ever to appear on Lexx.
Neither of the Zevs ever did anything for me. Same goes for Bunny.
There is a recurring theme of kissing on Lexx. The manual transfer of essence near the beginning of I Worship His Shadow is called “the kiss.” Then, toward the end of The Giga Shadow, Zev kisses Kai, (who goes along with it despite being emotionless), and it is at this moment the Insect essence in his eyes is revealed.
In Terminal Kai suggests that Zev give Stan a kiss, to help him concentrate in passing the key to her.
Then there is kissing as a way of determining identities in season three. In gondola, Xev says she could tell that the living Kai (actually Prince) was not really Kai because of the way he kissed. Then in The Key Kai lets Xev kiss him, and later says that he could tell she was Prince by the way she kissed.
Fluff Daddy is one of the eight episodes of Lexx I still haven’t seen, but someone posted that Stan and Lulu kiss, and the key to the Lexx is transferred from him to her.
I wonder why there is this continuing trend. Synchronicity? Symbolism? Coincidence? If this was an intentional trend, why? What does it mean (besides inconsistancy in terms of how the key to the Lexx is passed)?
I thought it was a very good episode. It about ties with Little Blue Planet in my mind, and is one of the best episodes since season two ended. I missed all but the last 10 minutes the first time, but saw the whole episode at midnight.
I like the new Lexx. At first it looked like the Lexx shed its skin and emerged as an imago, but more careful viewing indicates that the Lexx died, leaving a glowing sphere one or two kilometers small in its dessicated shell. I’d love to see clear vidcaps of the little Lexx. Let’s see, it’s white with green, almost ivy-like parts. The eyes are bigger in proportion to the rest of the body. The tail is stubby and green, and the ship seems to move by horizontal undulation. It’s got legs! I couldn’t count them all, but I know there are more than six. Plus a cute appendage tipped with a bioluminescent organ projecting from the postocciput. The overall look is like a cross between a cicada, a tadpole, a bee, and an angler fish. I thought the voice sounded like Anna Cameron, but someone else said they thought is was just Tom Gallant’s voice with synthesizers, and when I listened to it again it sounded like that could be the case. At any rate, the new Lexx is great. I wonder what it’s called.
I think the blue key is a new key, for a new Lexx.
I had some problems with the episode. The writers were trying to resolve so many subplots in the episode that it was kind of crammed, with each sequence going by in a blink. I didn’t think the Earth should have been destroyed. I really didn’t like the idea of those intelligent, hard-working people getting left behind to die. I liked the way Stan acted for the most part (more corageous than usual), but I thought he was too cruel to the Lexx.
About Kai. I always wanted for Kai to eventually have his electronics removed and be restored to a living human. Prince did that, but he did it with magic, which seems like cheating. I was disappointed that there wasn’t a scientific way to reverse the decarbonization process. I didn’t think Kai should have died. There’s just so much more to be explored with him, especially if he were brought back to life. We know very little about what the living Kai was like. I always knew Kai didn’t love Xev.
About Longbore. He wasn’t His Divine Shadow!
What kind of pointless move was that in giving a character the exact same voice as His Divine Shadow and then building him up as a similar character, then killing him off and leaving us to assume he was somebody different?!? 
It would be like if George Lucas cast James Earl Jones as the navigator fir a spice freighter in Attack of the Clones. So, why did they do that? The obvious answer that comes to mind is to lure viewers into watching a season that may be unpopular otherwise to see His Shadow reappear at the finale (and not have to bother with writing and filming a plot with His Shadow to take time away from other plots, and still being able to play the Shadow card in future productions since the plot is never resolved). Another possibility is that the voice was for a kind of synchronicity or symbolism, hinting to viewers that the character is like His Divine Shadow. So who was Dr. Longbore if not His Divine Shadow? A couple of months ago, someone suggested that he may be the reincarnation of the Wozard, played by Divine Shadow voice actor Walter Borden. That notion had never occurred to me up until then, and I considered it astronomically unlikely until His Shadow failed to reappear after Dr. Longbore disappeared (we are eventually told he is dead, and nothing happens in the rest of the episode to indicate he isn’s). But if Ernst Longbore was the Wozard, then why was he so unlike the Wozard? The Wozard was a religious zealot, not a mad scientist. And he wasn’t a pervert. Maybe one of the Beans can tell us what the hell they were thinking.About Priest. President Priest starts the episode with his usual annoying antics. Then later he reveals important information to us. He, like Prince, is a metaphysical being from the planet Fire (this makes me wonder why Duke, May, and the other priests of Fire never resurfaced, since they all must have been metaphysical beings, and Duke was much more powerful than the priests). Prince made him president by putting it into a lot of people’s minds (possibly the reincarnated Fire-dwellers) to vote for him. Much more surprising is his behavior. He shows guilt and remorse. These are good traits. Since his soul was sent to Fire (the priests were reincarnated humans, as evidenced by the fact that one was a reincarnated Divine cleric), that would imply that he was bad in life, and bad sould always act bad in ever incarnation. Perhaps Prince cheated, like with Stan.
Additional thoughts. Since Xev and Stan did not find a home, and Prince is on an interstellar space ship with a mission of destruction in mind, the possibility for continuation is wide open. Stan establishes that the Lexx is 6,000 years old, indicating that it existed in some form for 700 years before the amino acid codes were captured. To be consistent with The Giga Shadow, 790 should have said 300 instead of 10,000.
I was saddened by the episode, but most of all the final scene, when we think that poor 790, whose lived such a tormented and traumatic electronic existence, would drift alone in space for the rest of time. Then the Lexx came to pick the robot head up (I wonder if it was by instinct, or if Stan ordered it to) and I cheered. “Oh, Kai, Kai, Kai; why did you have to die? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa; ten thousand years to go…Nooo!”
I thought the typeface for “The End” should have been the same as “2008 Years Later” etc. in I Worship His Shadow. There also should have been an aperture closing on the picture, like in Heaven and Hell.
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Originally posted by sgtdraino:
I think AJ is highly over-rated. Xenia is much more beautiful than AJ, IMHO.‘Course Patricia puts ’em both to shame!
Patricia Zentilli? In my opinion, the most beautiful actress who has appeared in Lexx is either Doreen Jacobi or Louise Wischermann. I’m not sure which one, but they are both way above any others. But maybe that’s just me.
Aw, the picture didn’t show up.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Can you scan that picture from the magazine? I’d like to see it. I’ve never heard of him before but I’m glad you pointed out Dr. Johnston’s work![/QB]
Maybe at some point. I’ll see when I have time.
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Other webpages about Dr. Johnston feature a picture of a short-haired brunette that was a composite of 16 faces. Is that the image of which you speak? If so, I think she looks a little like Xev, but not completely.
That’s not the same one. The woman image I’m talking about has hair about the same shade as xev in season 3 (minus the red streaks) and looks (to me) a lot like Xenia Seeberg. I personally don’t find the image that attractive.
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Originally posted by thefrey:
Well MMM twack and Tinkerbell are a match made in heaven!
What is “twack?”
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Trin is the naem DT gave to the Lyekka civilization a few weeks ago. In “End of the Universe” Lyekka says “there aren’t many dreams around”. But since Louise Wischermann gives Lyekka an accent so impossible to understand, that it makes the French look like English Profs; he misunderstood the statement as “there aren’t many trins around” Where he thought trin refered to the Lyekka species. But sine Trin is easier to type, say and spell then Lyekka, many people (myself included) have just adopted that name.
Actually, I wrote it down in my Lexx notebook when I saw The end of the Universe on its original Sci-Fi run, and have used it periodically on this board.
I thought Lyekka said “The Universe used to be full of Trins.” She then goes into her telepathic abilities, and I assumed she was saying that her people, abundant before Mantrid, used to listen to the thoughts of all sentient life, and that collective knowledge has given her the ability to pinpoint the location of a specific individual (Mantrid in this case) telepathically.
But on a recent chat I was told that she said the Universe was full of dreams. I looked at a transcript of the episode and she did say “dreams.”
Lyekka’s people (in the Dark Zone at least) seem to have their own language and nomenclature, but the name they call themselves has yet to be revealed. Nobody else on the show seems to have come up with a name to call them (though Kai says one or more of the people whose memories he has were familiar with them). I had the archaic character call them “Dreamweaver Plants” in my fan-fiction “The New Order,” but that doesn’t come from real Lexx. The name of Lyekka’s people is not clear.
But Lyekka’s accent is cute. Of that there can be no doubt.
The most powerful planet destroyer is without a doubt the Hand of Omega. At the Doctor’s command, it destroyed a planet many light years away and millennia in the future, destroying the alien warships surrounding Earth on its way back to its resting place in time-space, and returned in less than a minute.
It’s never been said where Mantrid’s name comes from, but I always assumed it was a play on mantid (a type of insect). It is also possible that it derives from the Sanskrit word “mantrin,” meaning “wise man.” Or perhaps the writer arrived at the mad scientist’s name through a deliberate blending of the two words (wise insect?). Actually, I recently discovered that the Greek word “mantis,” now given to insects of the mantid order, originally meant “a half-incomprehensible prophet,” and comes from the same root as the Sanskrit “mantrin.”
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
SadGeezer smiles smugly…. Believing very strongly that 29 is the best age to be. In fact he’s proud to have been 29 for almost 13 years!
Kai, on the other hand, has been 33 for 6,342 years.
On the other hand, Earth is in the darkest part of the Dark Zone, therefore there are many singularities in its proximity connecting it to other universes. Even when the Light Zone collapsed, the resulting fractal core brought our heroes to the viscinity of the Solar System. Perhaps when you travel to the Dark Zone, you’re likely to end up near Earth.
Further thoughts:
I also thought the dragon names (Drago, Drakul) were an odd coincidence. I don’t think Drago is an Egyptian name or mythical figure. I can’t remember the Egyptian word for “dragon,” but I remember it wasn’t a cognate of the greek “drakon,” as “dragon” and “drakul” (little dragon) are. At any rate, it would be interesting if Cluster lizards resurfaced on Earth as “dragons.”
Maybe the Heretics built the Pyramids.
Is it just me, or was Kai’s latest rendition of the “I have killed…” speech influenced by The Book of the Damned? That might seem like not a good thing to bring up, but I really think that may have been a factor in the writer’s mind (who did write that episode, anyway? I forgot to look and now I can’t find it on the online episode guide).
The reason I haven’t been on the SadBoard for the last week is because my laptop is broken.
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I believe birds make the best pets, specifically psittaciforms. I have a pet Melopsittacus Undulatus. His name is Archie.
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Originally posted by BowCatz:
The poem reminded me of a war movie titled “Johnny Get Your Gun”. A war vet is blown apart by a land mine, but is not killed. Paralyzed, blind, and totally dependent on those around him at a VA hospital, he taps out “Kill me.” in morse code. I think James Fransicus (sp?) (Longstreet 70s tv show) was in it. Jason Robards was in it, too. He helped the war vet in dream type sequences. Rent it if you want a vet’s perspective of a war. Kai might approve of this movie for the way war stresses the mind.
That is because the Metallica song was inspired by Johnny Got His Gun. In fact, one version of the music video for One included clips from the film.
Flamegrape and several other people have posted the lyrics from songs under threads that they could be perceived as relevant to, and I thought I’d follow suit. I added images to make it interesting.
I finally got to see Apocalexx Now (part of it, at least). It was so exciting to see a Trin seed flying through space after so long!
It looks like my theory that the Trins (Lyekka’s people) and the probes are related is true.
The Trins in the Light Zone didn’t seem to have any sort of real civilization, while the ones in the Dark Zone have advanced technology. I have theories about this but they’re long. It appears that the soul of the Lyekka plant was infused into the body of a living Trin in the Dark Zone after migrating from the planet Water after it was destroyed or after Battle. Unlike the human reincarnations, she has memories of her past life and afterlife. The one who said she was “like a twin sister Lyekka” would be part of the same family clan as body currently containing the Light Zone Lyekka’s soul, who has knowledge of the Lexx and Stan (notice that this one didn’t bother to scan everybody, she went straight to Tweedle). Now, why was Stan dreaming about Lyekka in Viêt Nam?
That’s a little weird. Anyway, I didn’t see the end so I don’t know how things turned out with Lyekka (or her sister Lyekka).That whole thing might be an homage to a pseudo-religious group called the Pleiadeans, whose founder prophecized that in 1996 a spaceship disguised as an asteroid would arrive carrying an alien race called the Reptilians to whom humans are a delicacy.
President Priest was a little too annoyingly stupid in this episode (the thing with his speech was just painfully silly and tasteless). I think he was better when he had somebody manipulating him.
And now, in the Flamegrape tradition, a semi-relevant song post:
One
James Hetfield, Lars UlrichI can’t remember anything
Can’t tell if this is true or dream
Deep down inside I feel to scream
This terrible silence stops me.
Now that the war is through with me
I’m waking up, I cannot see
That there’s not much left of me
Nothing is real but pain now.
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, wake me!
Back in the womb it’s much too real
In pumps life that I must feel
But can’t look forward to reveal
Look to the time when I’ll live.
Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me.
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, wake me!Now the world is gone I’m just one
Oh, God, help me!
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, help me!
Darkness
Imprisoning me
All that I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell
Landmine
Has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with a life in Hell.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
How do you come up with 11%? Why not 10% or 12%?
I averaged my ratings for stand alone episodes and arc episodes and subtracted one from the other.
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Originally posted by Elmey:
I’m not saying all the shows are equally good, but I sure wouldn’t want to have missed any of them. Think of how much texture you’d lose.
That’s exactly my point. Sure, eliminating stand-alone episodes would weed out some mediocre shows like Super Nova, Love Grows, and The Rock, but it would also mean losing Eating Pattern, Lyekka, Stan’s Trial, White Trash, Nook, Woz, The Web, Brigadoom, K-Town, Garden, Prime Ridge, and The Game.
Think if The X-Files was all arc episodes. It would be all conspiracy and no shows like Squeeze, The Host, and Jose Chung’s From Outer Space. You need variety.
So the person in the picture is Bunny? Doesn’t look like her to me. Also, were any of the souls below Water characters (besides the living Kai)?
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
No way! erm… well, maybe a little way. This particular girl (also called Katie by the way (same as the wife – but completely different) was hugely unsupportive.
Would that be OldKate?
1. Modern Rock: ’80s Grooves
2. Modern Rock: Cutting-Edge ’80s
3. Modern Rock: The Cool ’80s
4. Back to the Future: 20 Space Themes
5. Lexx: The Soundtrackquote:
Originally posted by Deliena:
Aww go on – tell yer story, we’re all friends here (and let’s face it – I managed to provide you all with blackmail material on me!)
Okay, but I still have a feeling I’m going to end up regretting this.
In May of 1999 (I was a sophomore in high school at the time) I got two advance tickets to Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. I was going to ask a girl I liked to go to see it with me. But I was too scared to ask her.
So anyway, to make a long story short, I didn’t see it ’til June.
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Originally posted by Deliena:
The second one is going to see Episode One at a not so local multiplex ( I used to live in Deepest Darkest Somerset ). All the way down in the car my friend and I were chanting “Star Wars, Star Wars” (this was a 2 hour drive btw – the driver was not happy). When we came out we went straight to Toys-R-Us and promptly began battling in the aisles with LightSabers.In fact, we made such a nuisance of ourselves that we got asked to leave the store, and they took our photos so that they could enforce the ‘BAN FOR LIFE’ that they gave us!!
I am not sure whether that qualifies as geeky, sad or just stupid… I guess I will let my fellow SadGeezers judge.
I put myself in your hands – please be gentle.
Funny.
I have an Episode I story too, but I probably shouldn’t tell it because it’s definate source material for people wanting to make fun of me. quote:
Originally posted by dgrequeen:
Personally, I like the mirror idea. Who better for 790 to love than 790? Although, I think he’s getting so evil because he’s malfunctioning.
Yeah, I think the electronic interfases to the brain tissue have been degrading since 790’s fall.
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Originally posted by Slopmaster:
Why doesn’t Kai just shut off 790 and have him pointed towards nothing when he is switched back on. 790 would have no loyality to anyone. I think it would be great to see what he would really do on his own.
Uh, I don’t think that would work. The minute they turned the head around it would register somebody’s face.
I still think it would be funny to have 790 fall in love with Lyekka.
