DalekTek790
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Originally posted by FX:
[b]the carrot drones actually penetrate the perineums, if not the anus'(ani?!) of their victims…they move like insects with long insectile metallic arms, but other than that, dalektek is stating things as fact which have not been confirmed…what we did hear on the xevivor episode was that they are probes looking for food sources/planets for an as yet unnamed group/entity…the victims do become zombies, cybernetic or not, but the little guys basically look like carrots to everyone except dt, and in fact were made quite hostile by the site of people putting carrots into a blender…welcome to our happy little board [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img], when are you going to get season 3? season 4 is a blast and much lighter than season 3, but i think having seen season 3 is helpful background for season 4…love fx[/b]
Everything I said was a fact. I said they [b]appear[/b] to be based on Insect technology. I didn’t say they were for sure.
By the way, I’m Lee Sherman, the forum’s resident science geek. Welcome to the Dark Zone…er, I mean SadBoard.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior, [i]The Daleks[/i]: Episode 4-[i]The Ambush[/i]
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist, [i]The Dark Crystal[/i]
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790, [i]Lexx 1.1: I Worship His Shadow[/i]
Why? Why? [b]WHY[/b] do you want another [i]Dune[/i] film?!?!? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] There are already three, and there all crap. A prequel will only bring more pain. Just forget about [i]Dune[/i]. It’s been dune to death.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Chrismith:
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DalekTek,I think you mean this.
Original early design for The Enterprise when TOS was in production. Made it’s way into Trek History as an early 22nd century ship. Obviously used by Earth before the formation of The Federation.NX-01 Enterprise is official. It’s on all the preview material.
There you have it. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img][/b]
[b]That’s[/b] the one. I so wanted it to be the star. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
The “NX” prefix means it’s an experimental ship. The [i]Excelsior[/i], [i]Defiant[/i], and [i]Bradbury[/i] all carried NX registry numbers. The [i]Excelsior[/i]’s was changed to an NCC between [i]Star Trek II[/i] and [i]III[/i], presumably when the transwarp project was terminated. The “01” makes me wonder if this was the first starship [b]ever[/b].
I don’t mean to sound condescending to the devoted Trekkies here, but casual [i]Star Trek[/i] viewers may not already know the nomenclature.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Okay, it’s working now. A few hours ago the system didn’t recognize my name or password. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/confused.gif[/img] I guess there are still some problems with the SadBoard. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.They are parasitic cyborg drones from beyond the rim of the Milky Way. They appear to be based on Insect technology.
They are composed of approximately 20 cm long organic-looking tusken red conical bodies with a propulsion unit and at the wide end and four 30 cm long silver double-jointed arthropoid mechanical legs situated around an optical sensor and propulsion unit.
They are parasitic. They bore into the flesh of their terran victims, eventually taking over their brains and turning them into cybernetic zombies.
They do look vaguely like carrots, but more like mosquitoes or spiders.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.I meant 2020. In the episode [i]Brizon[/i], Mantrid explains his trap in which he placed a simulacrum of himself in a “Buckyball.” He actually said Buckyball! That’s a name for a geodesic spheroid (specifically a buckminsterfullerene molecule) named for its inventor: Buckminster Fuller. If [i]Brizon[/i] took place in the distant past, which is what you’re implying, then Mantrid wouldn’t know who Bucky Fuller was, and his space ship certainly wouldn’t be named after him.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
[b] Wow. That’s a very… interesting… uh…PICARD
Geordi, can you use the Enterprise to see if there are any beautiful women on that planet below us?GEORDI
(eye visor lights up with pulsating cartoon hearts)
Yes, but only if my beloved golden-skinned android adonis wants me to!PICARD
(sighs)
Data, will you tell Geordi to use the Enterprise to scan for beautiful… busty…
(gesticulates obscenely)DATA
(grim and deadpan)
Geordi, please use the Enterprise to look for women on the planet we are orbiting.GEORDI
Anything for you, my hard-wired honey!(PICARD paces floor of bridge impatiently.)
TROI
Cheer up, Picard! We’ll find a woman just for you! All I know is that it isn’t me!GEORDI
Bad news, my electric lover. There’s only a bunch of scientists working on some boring physics experiments.PICARD
All right! I’ve had enough! Enterprise!ENTERPRISE
Yes, “Picard, Picard, and only Picard”?PICARD
Blow up that stupid planet with the stupid scientists!ENTERPRISE
As you command, Captain. Can I eat the chunks?Oh brother.[/b]
Mine was funnier. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Giggerota destroyed Brunnis-1, Brother Randor destroyed Nook, Mantrid destroyed Potataho, Leester, Liber, and Woz, and Prince destroyed Water.
Captain, blowing up that planet is in direct violation of the Prime Directive. And it won’t get your toupée back. It’s gone, sir. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.The first two seasons took place millennia after mankind had conquered space. That’s why humans from Earth have colonized all those planets like the Cluster, Brunnis, and Nook. There are also terran animals like mice and butterflies all over the Universes. And individuals refer to 20th Century humans like Buckminster Fuller.
Then we have the fourth season, which takes place in the year 1919-20 on Earth. Somewhere along the line they went back in time.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Cat:
[b] Lexx Laws:1. There shall be no rubber-faced aliens.
[url=http://thedarkzone.org/faq/faq_show.cgi?id=12]The Lexx FAQ[/url][/b]
They also said there’d be no time travel. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by antizero:
[b]SOYLENT GRUEN IST MENSCHENFLEISCH[/b]
Oh, I can do that.
DER GEWUERZ IST DIE WURM
DIE WURM IST DER GEWUERZ[img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
I have some theories about Kai’s feelings under the “Xevivor” thread.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 22, 2001).]
That’s not the S.S. [i]Enterprise[/i] I was talking about. The S.S. [i]Enterprise[/i] seen in the first [i]Star Trek[/i] movie was a 22nd Century space ship (not the same as a starship) with no warp nacelles and no saucer section. Since all we ever saw was one picture of it I’ve always been curious as to what it was like, who its captain was, etc. Where’d you get that picture? Is it official?
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Chrismith-If true, that would mean it’s the S.S. [i]Enterprise[/i] we saw in the first [i]Star Trek[/i] movie, not any U.S.S. [i]Enterprise[/i]. I’ve always wanted to know more about it.
F.X.-I was referring to Q/Prince, not 790/E.M.H. And the Lexx doesn’t blow up [b]every[/b] planet it comes across. Neither Stan nor Zev ordered the Lexx to destroy Brunnis-1, Potataho, Leester, Liber, Nook, Woz, or Water.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.“[It’s] a good thing to lead an ethical existence, to be moral. We should understand that other people, perhaps aliens, have just as much right to pursue what is important to them as we have to pursue what is important to us. That just because someone looks different, or seems too foreign, doesn’t mean that they are automatically suspect, or dangerous, or evil, or should be killed right away. That every day we get a little better.”
-Gene Roddenberry
Okay, enough lame humor. [i]Lexx[/i] follows closely to the setup of [i]Star Trek: The Next Generation[/i]. Both shows are about a bunch of people in the future who are exploring the Universe in a giant space ship. Interplanetary crusaders going tfrom planet to planet to set the wrong things right, to protect the good and thwart the evil. Like the crew of the [i]Voyager[/i] they are searching for a home.
There are even similar characters. Both shows have a pale-skinned robotic character lacking emotions. Both have a powerful transient being who considers himself superior to the crew and pops up whenever he pleases.
[i]Lexx[/i] is a science fiction adventure series that embodies Roddenberry’s dream.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by FX:
[b]okay, as one of the few people here who actually remembers seeing the star trek episodes when they first aired, i wish to point out once and for all, lexx is not a star trek ripoff, it has nothing to do with star trek, and it is the opposite of everything star trekkian! but i love them both, and look forward to star trek marathons as much as twilight zone marathons (no , i don’t remember the original airings of the twilight zones! and i didn’t say how old i was when i was watching the first airings of star trek!)…star trek is 60’s utopian scifi, lexx has more in common with 50’s mccarthy era dystopian scifi…and i loathe the klingons with ridges, it makes them too cartoon like…personally, i liked the romulans the best, they were the other path the vulcans could have taken and of course SPOCK RULES…and now that i am old and bitter, KAI RULES…[/b]
I suppose [i]Lexx[/i] could be [b]even more[/b] like [i]Star Trek[/i] than it already is. If that were to happen, I predict the result would be something like this-
Stan: …So, if we use the portal to travel back in time, we could prevent President Kennedy from ever being assassinated!
Kai: The dead think this is a bad idea.
Zev: There’s a Mr. Prince to see you, Captain.
Stan: Thank you, yeoman nobody.
Prince: I’ve decided to put mankind on trial for your transgressions, Captain Tweedle.
Stan: Again?
Prince: I’m very good with the Prime Directive.
Kai: Fascinating.
Stan: Look, I’ll give you your slave-girl-plant back if you’re gonna make a big deal out of it.
Prince: Excellent! It’s all falling into place…
Stan: …Just give me a few more episodes to teach her what it means to be human.
Prince: Very well. We shall meet again, Captain Tweedle.
Stan: And now back to the stock footage portal…
790: Worst episode ever!
[b]To be continued…[/b]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.They first showed [i]Lexx[/i] on American sci-fi on January 19, 2000.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b][QUOTE]Originally posted by FX:
[B] FX, when you get hold of Saddy, could you add my name to the list of peeps who have lost their password (hence the Annoyed Squish), and give him a small clip round the earhole for leaving us in an emergency!!![/b]
For people who have lost their passwords and need new names I have a list of unused sci-fi themed monikers:
[b]Male[/b]
Fruitcake
Gregor
Baron Mandevil
Melanicus
Rossum
Water Brother[b]Neutral[/b]
Anomaly
C. T. Shocker
Cygnus X-1
GigaVorlon4000
Hitek
M33
Öös
ViCaR
WebNet Rogue[b]Female[/b]
Ayesha
Azuria
Prohaptor
Trinflower
WozmaJust something I compiled when I was bored. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 21, 2001).]
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b]I think that the views on the Foreshadow and the Megashadow were completely man-made are correct, and the Megashadow couldn’t have evolved into the Gigashadow so quickly, as it was around only days or weeks before the emergence of the Gigashadow.BTW, I’m not sure that the Gigashadow was the last remaining evil insect alive, did anyone ever figure out what the big spidery web thing that attacked Lexx and Stan was?, it seemed like another insect and seemed almost as large as the Gigashadow.
Squishy[/b]
I alway figured <i.Lexx 1.4[/i] took place about a year after [i]Lexx 1.1[/i]. Anyway, the [i]Mega Shadow[/i] couldn't have grown since it was blown up by the Lexx's ocular parabola at the end of [i]1.1[/i]. I believe the [i]Fore/Mega Shadow[/i] was human-made, the Giga Shadow was Insect-made, and the Lexx is a human-Insect joint. I've written more on this under "Divine Order technology."
Nets aren't Insects. They're arachnids with two components: the "Spider" and the "Web." Whatever the Nets are (were), the Lexx was programmed to avoid them, so we assume the Insects were afraid of them. Maybe they were an enemy in the Insect Wars. On the other hand, it's only natural for bugs to fear spiders. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Is there any site with guitar tablature to the Brunnen-G song?
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[i]Vaiyo a oh;
Vaiyo a oh, home vaah ray;[/i]
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G.
Vaiyo a oh, home vaah ray;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G;
Vaiyo a rah, jerhume Brunnen-G.Yes, [i]Farscape[/i] sucks. It’s like the Henson people had a bunch of weird puppets laying around and threw together some lame plot to get them all on camera. And those puppets aren’t eveb that good. I mean, [i]The Dark Crystal[/i] was made 20 years ago, and its aliens looked realistic. But the ones on [i]Farscape[/i] just look like puppets.
[i]Lexx[/i] and [i]Farscape[/i] both belong to the same sci-fi subgenre. It’s what I like to call the Star Trek Ripoff Subgenre. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Here’s a sample-
Andromeda
Battlestar Galactica
Blake’s 7
Crusade
Farscape
Lexx
Red DwarfThere are more, but I can’t think of them at the moment.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior, [i]The Daleks[/i]: Episode 4-[i]The Ambush[/i]
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist, [i]The Dark Crystal[/i]
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790, [i]Lexx 1.1: I Worship His Shadow[/i]
[i][b]BLAKE[/b]'[b]S 7[/b][/i]
[b]Beginning Year:[/b] 1978
[b]Ending Year:[/b] 1981
[b]Seasons:[/b] 4
[b]Episodes:[/b] 52
[b]Summary:[/b] An exciting [i]Star Trek[/i]-style space adventure from Dalek creator Terry Nation. And the beginning credits are possibly the coolest sci-fi television has ever seen! In the 30th Century, a corrupt Galactic Federation drugs its billions of citizens into placid submission. A rebel named Roj Blake, who once tried to organize a resistance group to overthrow this régime, was caught and his memories erased. But Blake’s revolutionary spirit is revived when he witnesses a mass slaughter by police that is covered up by the Federation officials. He escapes exile on board a prison spaceship and, together with a lovable band of outlaws, takes over a vacant alien space cruiser of awesome drive capability. Blake and his group travel the Milky Way in the D.S.V. [i]Liberator[/i] to seek any opportunity to undermine the evil federation.——————
Lee P. Sherman, alias DalekTek790
Wanted for termination[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 20, 2001).]
I’m still wondering why Cat asked me about [i]Ghostbusters 2[/i]. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/confused.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.If you want to nitpick it can probably be traced back to [i]The Puppet Masters[/i] by Robert A. Heinlein. And he probably got the idea from a type of fluke in real life that controls ants from inside their brains. Anyway, the brain parasite is now a common sci-fi element used by many writers (including me [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] ).
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Okay, okay, I’ll stop trying to spark discussion.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.The thing the Brunnen-G were fighting was called the [i]Fore Shadow[/i]. The [i]Mega Shadow[/i] looks very similar (like a big metal sea cucumber) so I figure it’s just a modified version of the original ship. I don’t see any indication of Insect technology or organic components in either.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Hey! You just stole my [i]Lexx[/i]-[i]Wizard of Oz[/i] theory and applied it to [i]Dwarf[/i]. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.The Insect body did not grow into the [i]Mega Shadow[/i]. The [i]Mega Shadow[/i] was a conventional space ship, a modification of the [i]Fore Shadow[/i]. I believe we are meant to assume ([i]Mantrid[/i]) that the Insect body grew into the Giga Shadow. It would make sense it it became Fore, then Mega, then Giga, but I doubt the first two are related to the Insect, since they don’t look organic and the second one was blown up before we saw the third.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
[b]Never claimed to, unlike you. Remember when you used to rattle off things like “we don’t want things like this posted on our board” or “I think we all agree that the show needs more morals,” or, since you were slapped on the wrist for doing this too many times and never once admitted you were wrong (not that you’d *ever* do that) have you blocked that period out?[/b]
All I said (in the first case you quote) is that we didn’t need an in-depth sexual discussion on our sci-fi board. I was speaking as the collective board member, but then there was this backstabbing and I ended up just representing myself.
That was the same time I was acting as pseudomoderator because there were transgressions slipping through the cracks. F.X. got all territorial and deleted a bunch of my posts, and (worse) edited one to say something completely different from what I originally said. Yes, I remember all the.
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[b]I can pull up a list of arrogant and egocentric statements you’ve made if you’d like.[/b]
You often make these vague statements then shy away when I (or anyone else) ask for specifics.
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[b]Things ranging from your presumption that you can speak for everyone on the board, to implying that everyone on the board is below your intelligence level, to saying things like “FX, I don’t know *what* you are,” and on and on…[/b]
Once again you misrepresent me. This is like that time you said I was a fudamentalist Christian just because I said there was too much violence in the media. I never said everyone on the board was below my intellectual level. There was just something I posted that people clearly weren’t understanding. And the F.X. thing you’re quoting (out of context) was a response to something that she wrote in Hebrew in one of her posts. And I believe my exact words were “I don’t speak…whatever she is. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]” Just natural good humor.
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[b]And you won’t be anything but pig-headed in believing that you and your reasoning are beyond criticism. Any time you speak down to others and they counter your ARROGANT and EGOCENTRIC asides, you come back with “I don’t understand why everyone disagrees with me…this unnamed group of people that I know (you don’t know them…they’re from Canada, and you haven’t met them) all agree with me…”[/b]
I still don’t see how you could twist things so much as to call [b]me[/b] arrogant. If you really knew me you’d realize I’m very modest, selfless, and introverted. And I live in the U.S.
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[b]and all the while NEVER ADMIT THAT YOU’RE WRONG. Of course, your blinders don’t allow you to *see* when you’ve been wrong. “I don’t see how anyone could argue with my record of being right about LEXX…What? I never said that the population of Fire and Water were clones somehow related to the Insect Menace…I never claimed that the 4th season of LEXX would take place in a futuristic Utopia where war and hatred had been eliminated…All of that is slander being perpetrated by that foul Aleck fellow!”[/b]
When I’m wrong I admit I’m wrong. Just I won’t say I’m wrong because somebody else said so without providing any basis for that claim. I never said the fourth season would be in a futuristic utopia.
The clone theory came from the need to explain how Mantrid and Vigo showed up with no memory (this was long before the shocking revelation that Fire and Water were Heaven and Hell). Yes, that was wrong. But you didn’t give a better explanation (you never offer alternative theories, just contradict mine), or show any fault in my reasoning. I laid out a tentative theory that the King of Fire was His Divine Shadow because it was strongly implied by the episodes. The Beans threw a number of things into the third season to throw inquisitive viewers off track (remember Duke’s words in [i]Gondola[/i]?.
I am always willing to logically consider any possibility, unlike you, who remain locked in a certain mindset and fail to consider any evidence contradicting other interpretations.
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[b]Is that a *threat*, DT? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img][/b]
No, it is a quote from the Brian Froud film [i]Labyrinth[/i] where the Goblin King explains to Sarah that, even though she sees him as her enemy, all the long he was just doing what she asked. I think you might find a parallel with this discussion.
Which brings me to my point that I’ve been trying to make for a while: this discussion is over. It should’ve ended a long time ago. It should’ve never existed in the first place, let alone come to this. I will try once more to stop this insanity. If it keeps going things will only get worse. There’s nothing more to discuss. This thread has come to the end of its spool.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.I’ve noticed a distinct anti-me trend materializing lately.
I was just going through my old posts looking for good text to use in the [i]Lexx[/i] section of my website when I came across this-quote:
Originally posted by BlackCloud:
[b]Whoa, Dalek, that opening paragraph belongs in the prologue of a movie(w/Kai narrating [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img])![/b]
That is a response to the very same thing Aleck is condemning. It seems Aleck does not represent the whole of the SadBoard.
I’m not going to sit idly by while people (you know who you are) post this sort of slander. At the other message boards I frequent the people are nice and treat each member, new or old, with the courtesy and respect they deserve. But here it’s like the popular members are always preying on the weak.
I’ve never acted arrogant or egocentric and have always maintained my pacifist nature no matter what anybody says about me.
Aleck-I’ve always responded nicely to your misguided posts and tried to be friends, but you just won’t be anything but adversarial.
Squish-Why do you have to be so confrontational? Not long ago you were being nice to me.
I think this is all silly and immature and strongly suggest the line of discussion be discontinued. Up until now I have been generous but I can be cruel.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Just when I think I have a perfect post nobody can argue with, somebody comes up with some half-baked response to contradict me.
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Originally posted by Aleck:
[b]Any interpretation that does not have a firm foundation in the text is worthless.[/b]
I completely agree. My arguments are based on the text [b]and nothing else[/b]. I define “text” as events depicted onscreen and lines spoken onscreen in the [i]Lexx[/i]/[i]Tales from a Parallel Universe[/i] movies and [i]Lexx[/i]: The Series. Until you can find a contradiction of my statements with the text or any of my theories that is not based on the logical interpretation of the text [b]you[/b] have no argument.
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[b]In the HDS thread, you ascribed feelings and emotions (and a complete back-story) to HDS that was never presented in the series.[/b]
Once again, you are mistaken. If you watched the episode [i]Mantrid[/i], there was a lengthly monolog at the beginning that established the back story I have used:
Many years ago the humans defeated us in the Great Insect Wars. They thought that they destroyed all of us, but they did not kill me, as I live on. I hid myself by burrowing deep into a small planetoid. There, I waited.
I survived by passed my essence, my thoughts, my intelligence, my…everything to a human host. As the last surviving Insect I knew that I would never be able to defeat the humans. But, if I possessed a human body I could make them defeat themselves.
I became His Divine Shadow, the most powerful ruler in the two universes. My power grew as I passed my essence down from generation to generation. My Insect body also grew in strength, fed by the flesh of 20,000 worlds unknowingly enslaved to their enemy.
But my reign was ended by Kai, the last of the Brunnen-G, and my prematurely reborn body was destroyed by the Lexx, the most powerful weapon ever built. Kai crushed the brain of my last human host, but he did not kill me, as I live on. But, Kai does not know that I live through him.
I see no reason to doubt this. Unless you can give me something [b]from the show[/b] that discredits His Divine Shadow’s account of his own history, I consider it to be wholly valid.
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[b]Your argument (that HDS was a sympathetic character) was based on an assumption (that HDS had particular thoughts, feelings and reasons behind his actions) not based in the text (HDS was never shown to have these), but on the basis of another assumption (a back story that you invented).[/b]
I don’t assume anything. It’s against my philosophy.
And I didn’t “invent” the back story, it was conceived by Donovan, Gigeroff, and Hirschfield. If you don’t like the way the direction the character went in [i]Mantrid[/i] that’s fine, just don’t blame me for it.
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[b]And anyway, this is a *discussion board.* This is not an academic discussion group in which debates must be made to conform to Lincoln-Douglas standards. Like much of the world outside of academic circles, those standards are not conformed to in everyday discussion, which means that you probably take everything that is said to you as a “personal attack.”[/b]
I post in the same manner as others at this forum. I post the way I talk. [b]You[/b] were the one who forced me to bring up Lincoln-Douglas. And there has to be [b]some[/b] format for discussion in order to debate my (or anyone else’s) points. It’s like when Galileo said “How am I to show you the moons of Jupiter when you won’t look through my telescope?”
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[b]And, for the record, your frustration about “personal attacks” is not based so much on *everyone else* refusing to conform to L.D. standards of debate, it’s based on your complete refusal or inability to participate in “real world” discussion. [/b]
What I describe as “personal attacks” are when people say what amounts to “you’re stupid” and never address my actual argument.
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b]Dalektek, whether or not I understand the type of dialect you are using is irrelevant, none of us here are interested in discussing matters in this way.[/b]
It’s not “dialect” it’s “dialectic,” or “dialektik” if you prefer the Classical spelling. I dialect is a type of speech pattern. A dialectic is any scholarly discussion of opposing viewpoints. And I never said I was committed to any [b]type[/b] of dialectic, just the practice itself.
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[b]The fact is nobody is impressed or likes this way of writing, and it doesn’t impress anyone in the real world either, if you came up to me in the street and spoke to me in this manner, I’d either think poof or think you’re a bit strange.[/b]
I don’t expect people to be impressed, I expect only for them to [b]understand[/b].
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[b]I get the feeling that you think that this style of writing enforces your views, well it doesn’t, it just aggravates even more.[/b]
Yes, it does. Most people like my intellectual and witty style. People wouldn’t take me seriously if I wrote like semi-literate white trash, now would they?
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[b]If you actually speak in this manner as well, then you won’t be acheiving anything in real life (girl’s will find you weird and blokes will think you are from another planet).[/b]
It’s funny you should mention that, Squish, ’cause I once assembled a Lincoln-Douglas style persuasive argument to try to convince a girl to go out with me. I didn’t get a chance to use it, which is a shame, because I had some really good points. But that’s not pertinent to this line of discussion.
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[b]Just for once try talking or writing like a normal person. [/b]
I am.
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b]Like I have said, practice this elsewhere, somewhere where it is used in abundance, on here we just want people to have a laff and discuss Lexx light-heartedly, we don’t want to go into raging debate’s that end’s up giving everyone a blinding headache.[/b]
This was a light-hearted discussion of [i]Lexx[/i], until Aleck turned it into a heated argument. The topic was “His Divine Shadow.” I started it because there were a lot of people posting things about His Shadow under several topics, and I wanted to condense it all into one thread where everyone could share their personal thoughts and speculations on [i]Lexx[/i]’s most complex and intriguing character. But Aleck, without provocation, decided to contradict my opinions and theories. So it turned into a debate. I suggested the format of a friendly dialectic, but he wouldn’t stand for it. Then he said I should “define my argument,” so I did in L.D. style, but he never really responded to that.
Essentially, the whole thread became like the Scopes Trial, with him (William Jennings Bryan) defending his personal mindsets, and me (Thomas Henry Huxley) showing the actual evidence to back up my claims. He got the last word in but I “won” in that my side was organized, logical, and fact-based. If you don’t understand the historical reference in that last paragraph, just don’t worry about it.
Aleck’s dogmatism and Squish’s anti-intellectualism do not threaten me.
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior, [i]The Daleks[/i]: Episode 4-[i]The Ambush[/i]
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist, [i]The Dark Crystal[/i]
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790, [i]Lexx 1.1: I Worship His Shadow[/i]
[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 19, 2001).]
The vampires as Divine Shadow essence is speculative. It is not one of the theories I’d really bet money on.
Like I said in another thread, all of my theories are based on the logical interpretation of events and dialog onscreen. Aleck is just a pyrrhonist who will doubt his eyes and ears just to maintain the illogical position that I am wrong.
My theories are almost invariably verified by future [i]Lexx[/i] episodes. I can think of five at the moment-
[b]Theory #1[/b]: 790 has part of a human brain (confirmed in [i]Norb[/i]
[b]Theory #2[/b]: Kai is animated by nanites (strongly implied in [i]K-Town[/i]).
[b]Theory #3[/b]: Earth is in the Dark Zone (implied in [i]Heaven and Hell[/i], confirmed in [i]Little Blue Planet[/i]).
[b]Theory #4[/b]: His Divine Shadow’s essence still exists (essentially everyone except Aleck believes that the dark figures in [i]Texx Lexx[/i] represent a manifestation of His Shadow)
[b]Theory #5[/b]: The fourth season on Earth will be like the [i]Star Trek[/i] episodes where they travel back in time (this one’s a little vague, but watch [i]Texx Lexx[/i], [i]P4X[/i], and [i]The Rock[/i] and you’ll see what I’m talking about).
With a track record like this, how can people still doubt me? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b] No one talks or thinks like you do Dalektek, you’re like some old wordly professor that has lost touch with the real world, there is nothing standard about writing in Lincoln/Douglas dialect, nobody gives any thought to what type of dialect they are using because it really doesn’t matter.
You are like a shakesperian actor that can only communicate by quoting shakespeare, frankly it’s boring and get’s under people’s skin bigtime, if you want to write posts in the manner you do then join a literary forum.
In the meantime drop the OTT style of writing and converse like one of the boys, nobody on here is impressed or even like’s the way you express yourself when using this style of writing, we are now in the 21st century…not the 19th, no one talks like that…good thing or bad that’s a fact. [/b]
Everyone in Speech & Debate thinks like me, Squish. What I mean is, I typify the Speech psychology. I was a devoted member of the S&D Team at my high school, and I still keep in touch with some of my friends from the Team. And for the record my school’s Lincoln-Douglas champion agrees with my statements about His Divine Shadow and says I did a very good job in defending my argument.
It is highly inaccurate to say L.D. is dead. There has been a significant decline in its use in the National Forensic League since the early 1970s, but the 2000-2001 debate season saw a significant revival in L.D. participation. Besides, its use in N.F.L. S&D is really beside the point. It is an important facet of human society that cannot be killed.
I get the feeling you don’t understand what I’m talking about. Lincoln-Douglas style is the standard debate format in Western society today. L.D. might be called something else in England, I don’t know. It is a form of [b]dialectic[/b]. Dialectic is the rarely used Modern English equivalent to the dialektik(os) of ancient Greek philosophers of the Academy and Lycæum. The [i]Oxford English Dictionary[/i] defines “dialectic” as “The art of critical examination into the truth of an opinion; the investigation of truth by discussion…logic as applied to formal rhetorical reasoning; logical argumentation or disputation.” With that definition out of the way, I’ll describe the format of Lincoln-Douglas debate for you:
First, each speaker makes a constructive statement, which lists their opinions, beliefs, and other things the opponent will likely disagree with. These are called [b]contentions[/b]. Each contention traditionally has two or more [b]subpoints[/b], which explain specifically the meaning and implications of each contention. Speakers then present clearly organized, logic-oriented statements defending their contentions and rebut the contentions and arguments of their opponent. The idea is to ignore the actual person and focus entirely on their argument. The failure to do this, that is opposing the person instead of the idea is called a [b]personal attack[/b]. Statements may include any pertinent initial or subsequent line of argument. Rebuttals may include only extensions of arguments previously introduced into the debate.
Please don’t condemn a practice just because you don’t understand it.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 19, 2001).]
You’re not funny, X. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.I am a published science fiction writer and devoted Whovian, but I’m afraid I must also decline. I’m rather wrapped up in my own work at the moment, and I don’t feel I’m up to working with the popular creations of others.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.And the award for fastest growing topic goes to… [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Okay, here’s the typical argument I get involved in:
1. I state a theory or opinion, usually one that is fairly self-evident.
2. Antagonist disagrees with the statement, without giving any reason.
3. I explain the basis for my side, and the logical flaws in Antagonist’s argument.
4. Ant focuses on a small and peripheral part of my post, and rabidly attacks that while ignoring my main point.
5. I try to bring the discussion back to the central topic.
6. Ant posts irrelevant personal attack and ignores the actual content of my post.
7. I once again try to get the discussion back on topic.
8. Ant posts another personal attack.
9. I give up.
There are some slight variations, but that’s the archetype. I seem to be the only one here with a grasp on the standard dialectic/Lincoln-Douglas format for debate. My opponents just want to argue with and misrepresent me without actually thinking about what I’m saying. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.I’m just an easy target because I usually don’t stand up for myself.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.This topic just gets weirder and weirder. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.[b]WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD[/b]
We saw what looked like a vampire in the preview for [i]Vlad[/i] last night, for those out there who missed the episode and chat. There’s been some speculation batted around that the “vampires” are Insects.
The idea is: His Divine Shadow’s essence has been haunting that area for four millennia, and it has reproduced. The vampires would then be the human hosts of second -generation Insect essences.
If you’ll remember, the original vampire (Wampir) didn’t suck blood, just life force. The vampiric beings in upcoming [i]Lexx[/i] episodes may be like that, draining human victims of their vital energy with an insectoid proboscis under the tongue.
Of course, the original Insect essence will eventually join with Dr. Longbore, and he will become the next Divine Shadow.
I doubt this ties in with the drones, though. It would seem a coincidence that Earth is plagued by two Insect-based menaces at the same time.
Cluster Lizards have been suggested for the next episode, but that might be stretching it. Much of this is speculative.
Back to the age-old question: Does anybody have a tape of [i]Texx Lexx[/i] they could look over to fing out the date of the Carpathian painting?
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.In the words of one Homer Simpson: “You people are all nuts.” [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b]Hello fellow saddy’s!!!
I’m still doing battle with this really big moron on the Lexx ng, nobody can stand him (ask Cat about him) and yet he continues to spew this endless drivel and insists it’s all fact, even our beloved Dalektek isn’t this bad, but they would get on like a house on fire.
He does the same thing Dalektek does by making everything he writes annoying and obnoxious, and that he’s right and everyone else is completely wrong…even when many point out that there is no fact in what he says!!!
Anyway here’s he’s latest line of crap…(I thought you find it amusing to see there is more than one Dalektek out there!!!)[/b]
It’s very rude and inconsiderate of you to post things like that. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img] I have never posted anything that was intentionally offensive or insulting, all of my theories are based on the logical interpretation of events and dialog on the shows or movies they pertain to, and I always take time to listen to the theories and opinions of everyone else in order to better put things in perspective.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.It was a good episode. Not great, but good. The Kai musical thing was neat for a while, but was overdone. I figure the script for [i]The Rock[/i] was about a page too short so they just had Kai play for a few minutes longer instead of actually writing more. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
No drones. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/confused.gif[/img] Usually they show up at the beginning and end but are never addressed in dialog with the main characters. But if there were drones, there wouldn’t be enough time for Kai’s Brunnen-G music. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
790 is as annoying as ever. I’m sure many people were yelling to their television sets: [b]”THROW HIM DOWN THE PIT, ZEV!”[/b] [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img] This time he just solved a problem, though. I would’ve liked it better if the robot head knew that it was Brud Parsnip and not Stanley Tweedle when he pushed him off. “He’s not security guard scum, he’s Newfoundland scum!” [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
Well, Newfoundland’s been nuked, on to Transylvania… [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Rockham:
[b]I would like to know about his cameo role in IWHS. Was there a reason he chose a non-speaking part?[/b]
It was sort f a speaking part, just somebody else’s voice was dubbed in. Rather like David Prowse as Darth Vader.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by Annoyed Squishy:
[b]I must admit that I find tall women a bit intimidating, I think it’s male inferiority that comes in to play, I’m actually 5″11, which I don’t think is too bad for a fella.[/b]
I find all women intimidating. That’s why I like [i]Lexx[/i] and [i]Species[/i] so much. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.It is completely illogical to have the exact same subject under two headings. It just generates confusion and inhibits discussion. There is no legitimate reason to have a copycat topic of Old friends. This thread was started after the forum was fixed so it’s not a substitute for an inaccesable topic, it’s just a clone.
I don’t see why I should be attacked for politely pointing that. If anybody else had said there shouldn’t be a mirror topic everybody would agree with them. But since it was me I get attacked.
An I was pseudomoderator for a while, under the name Deuce X. MacInaugh, but I couldn’t take all the bitching and had to give up and let chaos resume.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 18, 2001).]
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Originally posted by LexxLurker:
[b]This season has been great so far. Earth appears to be a purgatory for all those from Fire and Water (Heaven and Hell) and because of this we get to see some of our favorite faces again.Ive found at least 4 and maybe 5, anyone have some more names to add?
1)Prince of course
2)The presidents wife/astronaut from ‘Love Grows’
3) Giggerota/Real Estate agent/Pope
4) Xevivor host
And is that evil little kid that Prince has stuck up on the wall the same child from the Mantrid episodes?[/b]
Pa Gollean from [i]White Trash[/i] (Maury Chaykin, not Dave Carmichael) was reincarnated as a tourist in [i]Little Blue Planet[/i]. Digby was [b]not[/b] Brandon McCarvell. That was answered a long time ago.
And please don’t post topics that are identical to other recent topics. It’s disrespectfal and a little annoying.
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.Oh! I just thought of a great one-
Tina: Vampire Slayer
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
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Originally posted by me,fx:
[b] …oh and for the record, dalek tek, i will not share with you what my assumptions are as to your physiognomy, [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] but i will point out that it is [i]fx [/i]not [i]f.x.[/i][/b]
Physiognomy? Huh? [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/confused.gif[/img]
I write it “F.X.” because “FX” doesn’t look right to me. Just like I capitalize names like Crusader even though they write them all lower case. Of course, my name gets messed with all the time. “Dalek,” “dalek tek,” “DT7″… [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]
You are female, right? I’d hate to be incorrect about that. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img]
Normally I would say we need to get back on topic, but this isn’t really a topic, it’s just a bunch of random posts on the topis of whatever the person was thinking of at the time. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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“Exterminate!” -Dalek warrior, [i]The Daleks[/i]: Episode 4-[i]The Ambush[/i]
“Feel the power of the dark Crystal!” -skekTek the Scientist, [i]The Dark Crystal[/i]
“I will love you forever!” -drone #790, [i]Lexx 1.1: I Worship His Shadow[/i]
[This message has been edited by DalekTek790 (edited August 17, 2001).]
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Originally posted by FX:
[b] hey aleck and dt…aleck, i dont think you were part of our little dysfunctional family in february, so i am going to reminisce a little…the lexx episodes forum was just shy of 1000 in february when someone hacked into the server and destroyed a lot of stuff, my forum was the worst hit…at that point a lot of people started posting in lexx general…then, with the hiatus in lexx showings, no one posted much here at all…now the habit of posting lexx general has set in to where people even post episode related topics there, which is fine since i tend to cruise both fora, especially with blackie being away so much…incidentally, i “met” dalek tek on the old sadboard way before this new setup [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]and my becoming a moderator; he was about the only poster there…dt is probably one of the longest running presences on this site [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/cool.gif[/img], and one of the first people i ever talked to on-line, hence the frequent squabbling bred of a relatively long history here together [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]…anyway, i would like to see this as busy as it was before the crash, but habits die hard…love fx[/b]
Did you use to go by a different user name? I can’t say I remember an F.X. on the old SadBoard. Of course, I started out as just “Lee.” I think I was “the Nano Shadow” for a while, too, before I came up with my magnificent current alias. [img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Lee P. Sherman, code name DalekTek790
Whovian, Froudian, Lexxian, etc.
