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ParticipantOh well. I think FX and Aleck may be right about this. Today I’ve witnessed a supreme amount of vitriolic hatred over at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board despite my efforts to be friendly and smooth things over.
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
I’m all for the idea.However, the moderator of such a forum would have one helluva job on their hands. It certainly wouldn’t be me (since I don’t really know much about fanfic). I’d be keen to see a fanfics forum and possibly (if it’s popular) a fanfics catagory with lots of forums for each of the types of fiction.
I like the idea of catering for lots of different sci fi tastes.
So, if there is enough interest, I’ll set up the new forum(s)
I’ll volunteer for the job as moderator. Or maybe partner with someone else?
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Originally posted by dgrequeen:
I’m not going to fan the flames of controversy by offering an opinion on whether you should or shouldn’t do it , but I will say that if you decide to start a fanfic forum here, you’ll find it becomes habit-forming. People have surprised themselves with the creativity they find inside themselves, once they start writing. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
I think that’s great! Another bonus is the organisational capabilities of this nice bulletin board here at SadBoard. People could add and edit chapters and keep them all in one thread. And newly updated stories would always remain at the top of the list.
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ParticipantFishhead, how did you find the SadGeezer.Com bulletin board? I found it by visiting Lexx.Com which linked to Sparkla’s links page which linked to here. Did you get here the same way?
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Originally posted by Doffy:
This whole thing has just gotten way out of control. Personally, I just came here to discuss Lexx. Neither myself, nor anyone else from APEC ever mentioned anything about APEC or clone fic here. It was instead brought up time and time again by disgruntled people who no longer post at SciFi. I totally fail to see why it should even be an issue here at Sad’s. The two boards are separate entities, and what happens on one should have no impact on the other.
Okay, you need to understand how many of us discovered the SadBoard and why we frequent the place. First we went to the [i]de facto[/i] official Lexx bulletin board at SciFi.Com/Lexx. That bulletin board system was found to be lacking by many of us. After some internet searching (usually from Lexx.Com to Sparkla’s links page) we found SadGeezer.Com and it’s much more agreeable bulletin board system. In fact, I think it’s safe to say that most all of the Lexx fans who post here found the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board first. [i][b]This is precisely how one board directly impacts another.[/i][/b] If the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board was up to par, then the chances of Lexx fans finding SadGeezer.Com would be less likely and the number of posts in the Lexx (General) Forum would not be in the 5,000-range.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
The SciFi BB has always been fic intensive…
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Originally posted by Doffy:
…and some new peeps that come on like it, and join in. Others post asking about where to find out more about Lexx, and we kindly point them to Sad’s and other good Lexx links.
Again, this is how the one board impacts the other.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
For me, I’m having a problem with how this seems to have turned into a “let’s bash SciFi and APEC” thread.
That is only partially correct. Gelfling and X (and maybe one or two others?) clearly despise APEC. [i]Everyone else does not hate APEC and you gals must understand this now.[/i] Although I do not read fan fiction, I fully support it in all it’s banal glory. I would like to find a good solution to this issue for reasons I’ve already stated in the previous thread.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
I mean, why should what happens on another BB even be an issue!
Okay, you need to understand how many of us discovered the SadBoard and why we frequent… oh wait, I’ve already explained this before….
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Originally posted by Doffy:
It seems Vyx or Gelfling, as she is known by here, has taken it on herself to post private emails to the SciFi BB in an effort to stir up trouble.
Gelfling is vyX? How did you figure that? Very interesting. Anyway, it’s her perogative to take a course of action she deems necessary. If she had not writen emails to SciFi.Com, then I would have recommended it instead of (and not in addition to) posting insults. Slander never helps your case.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
Can we please just end this, and go back to discussing Lexx?
Well, with all due respect, no.
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
As far as I am concerned, the whole APEC thing is old news, but I have to say that I’ve learned a LOT about fanfic, who’s involved, where it is posted, and who hates it since the discussion started.
Ditto.
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
To be honest Doffy, I don’t see why you would want it to end.
I’d like to go out on a limb and say something. I suspect that APEC and their authors are concerned that they might be unceremoniously expelled from the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. If enought people complain, then maybe SciFi.Com will ban all fan fiction on all their bulletin boards.
But the simple reason is no one likes to be criticised. [i]I am doing my very best to provide constructive criticism for all parties involved.[/i]
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Most of the visitors to the board don’t lash out at Sci Fi or APEC.
I don’t lash out at APEC, but I lash out at SciFi… with a bullwhip!
[Pulls out bullwhip.]
*crack* Take that, SciFi.Com! *crack* And that! *crack* Stupid out-dated bulletin board system! *crack* Dumb pop-up ads! *crack*quote:
Originally posted by MelodikSyn:
Perhaps part of that is because they like all of this general hubbub and attention, negative and otherwise, from persons outside their group? It would make more sense to annex what they do off somewhere else, where not only will it not be disruptive to anyone else but where they could conduct their RPG in peace.Incidentally, it’s not that expensive to run a small website with small bandwidth requirements.
I agree completely. Websites are free. Bulletin boards are free. They’re not pretty and they have pop-up ads, but that’s not a real hinderance. If these places already exist for fan fic writers, then they should move their center of activity away from bulletin boards that do not focus on that activity. I’m trying to phrase this in the most agreeable way as possible. If you fan fiction authors need help in establishing a new website or bulletin board, then people can provided it, especially from your own numbers (50 or more members, one of you said?).
To phrase it in a less agreeable way, you guys are abusing an unregulated bulletin board for your own amusement at the expense of others who would just like to use it as a forum of discussion. The publication of fan fiction is not the intended use of bulletin board systems. To say that it’s alright because no one at SciFi.Com has stopped you is not helpful. You can’t pass the blame onto someone who does not exist. This is because there are no moderators at the SciFi.Com bulletin boards.
And again I must point out that since there is no bulletin board at Lexx.Com, the board at SciFi.Com/Lexx is the [i]de facto[/i] official Lexx bulletin board. No one is in charge over there. And since no one has executive authority there, we have little recourse than to ask nicely.
[ 19-11-2001: Message edited by: Flamegrape ]
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ParticipantI’ve been saying for a while that there ought to be a fan fiction forum here at SadBoard. Clearly, fans like to write the stuff. There should be a proper catagorical place for it. Heck, there’s a vague chance I might even have a go at writing the stuff.
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ParticipantThe graphics could be simplified in order to speed-up loading time. The purple and green colour scheme could still be used.
If I can get the time, I’ll play around with some ideas. BTW, I never got any go-ahead to work on any banner ads… [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Participant[img]http://www.flamegrape.com/pic/chichian6cover.jpg[/img]
[i]”Why can’t people just be nice?”[/i]
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ParticipantRivival? I didn’t think it went away! It’s always been popular, at least here in the States.
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Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
Yes, she’s [i]sexually[/i] attracted to Kai, because of her increased libido. But she’s [i]emotionally[/i] attracted to Stan. Sexual attraction isn’t the same as love.She loves Stan, she’s just in denial. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
Curious thought, but I don’t really agree.
But anything’s possible, I suppose. Here in the USA, we’ve only seen as far as [i]Magic Baby[/i] and it ended with a touching cliffhanger that sort of relates to this issue. (Is that a spoiler? Wasn’t meant to be!)
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Participantquote:
Originally posted by elfie:
APEC: All Powerful Estrogen Cloud
Apec has a website… and there is a lot of info at the Lexx Hospitality Page. [URL=http://www.geocities.com/lexxhospitality/
]http://www.geocities.com/lexxhospitality/[/QB][/QUOTE][/URL]
The Lexx Hospitality webpage is the APEC homepage?
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Originally posted by elfie:
Nobody auditions anybody, people ask to join in the fics.
Let me rephrase my question. Are all of the people who ask to join APEC people who view APEC fan fiction on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board or do they usually encounter APEC through other channels. What I want to know is how important the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is for the continuation of the club? In other words, is that bulletin board an indespensible organ of the club?
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Originally posted by elfie:
[[Good question. Would a bulletin board forum that is exclusively dedicated to Lexx fan fiction present a solution to this arguement? What would be the downside of this solution?]]I don’t think anything will satisfy everyone considering it’s NOT all about the fics, they are just part of it.
I don’t understand what you mean. It seems to me that if there were a bulletin board that is dedicated exclusively to Lexx fan fiction, everything would be great.
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Originally posted by elfie:
[[What is KT? Is it a bulletin board? A website?]]It is the email group at Yahoo that the APEC members and others post at. It has a website, files section, chat room… just a basic forum.
So….. what’s the URL? I’d like to visit it.
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Originally posted by elfie:
Mainly by the same handful of people, and the couple people who feel slighted somehow by apec/ kt/ scifi bb.
With all due respect, I don’t think they are the only ones who are bugged by the fan fiction postings. There’s no way of measuring how many newbies go to that bulletin board and then never return without comment.
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Originally posted by elfie:
The only problem with that is there would no longer be a well known site for new fans to discover the fiction at. If it hadn’t been at scifi, I’m not sure I would have found it. And for me at least, that wouldn’t have been a preferable scenario. If it had been in private lists, there would have been no visible way for me or anyone else who’s interested to discover it.
I thought so. If the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board didn’t exist, APEC would have no venue– no visibility, no public exposure. I just wanted to make that point clear.
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Originally posted by elfie:
I DO just announce new fics rather than post them there… what is the difference? It is still a “post about someone’s fic”, since no one forces anyone to open the story posts and read them.
I see nothing wrong with that at all. It’s those people who post chapter after chapter and eat up thread title slots in the “front page” that are particularly annoying.
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Originally posted by elfie:
[[This is the very heart of the issue. Fan fictions posted on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is the most talked-about complaint. It is the usual reason why people ditch that bulletin board in favor of SadBoard. These fan fictions are driving people away from the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board.]]…And it is also the reason some people visit Scifi instead of the Sadboard.
…and therefore newbies mostly encounters fan fic at the [i]defacto[/i] official Lexx bulletin board. If they’re lucky, they might find their way to SadBoard and have real discussions that are maintained for long periods of time. Not everyone who gets into Lexx wants to read fan fiction.
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Originally posted by elfie:
[But the only way to ignore Lexx clone fan fictions and APEC is to not visit the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. Their presence cannot be ignored.]]It can be if you do not open the fics.
*SIGH* I think you’re side-stepping the issue. I never open the fics. But the subject headings are there. Each day, fic threads appear and any other discussion threads gets shuffled away.
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Originally posted by elfie:
What you think should happen at a BB you do not like or go to doesn’t carry much weight. The people who are regulars at Scifi’s opinion’s matter to me on the subject (just speaking for me) and the only people who complain are people who don’t like Scifi enough to begin with and do not *hang out* there.
Ah, I understand now. The Lexx fan fic writers dominate the SciFi.Com bulletin board and you like it that way. You’re right, my opinions carry little weight.
I’m trying to say that more people would frequent the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board if they knew that subjects could be discussed for a longer period of time without fan fic filling up subject heading space.
There’s another point that people seldom mention. Fan fiction is not the intended purpose of bulletin boards. It could be regarded as abuse, but there is no one there at SciFi.Com/Lexx moderating anything.
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Originally posted by elfie:
Without the fictions, there would still be the layout of the board… APEC would still be announcing it’s fictions somewhere and what you don’t understand is they’d be upset that they exist ANYWHERE.
Are you saying that there are people out there who are actively trying to squash the existence of any kind of Lexx fan fiction anywhere? That’s news to me. Again, I say that no one would mind annoncements of new fan fiction literature.
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Originally posted by elfie:
If DalekTek posted an image of himself at the conclusion of the thread pointing a gun and threatening to shoot you… you might never want to speak to him again.
That’s really a shame that that sort of thing happens at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. I’m not sure that sort of thing has happened here before. If it did, I’m sure such offensive messages are deleted. Sad? FX?
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Originally posted by elfie:
I wish there were some 96 part epics out there. ;o) Actually, they average about 5-7 chapters or so. Sadgeezer’s actually loads slower for me than scifi, so it’s not much of a bother to click the “prev” link at scifi aaaand… look at more posts.
Again, I try to point out that it is not easy to find new posts in old threads at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. And when you do find an old thread and post a new message, it goes unnoticed.
The ease of operation of the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board has never been in question. (You keep bringing it up.) In fact, it’s generic simplicity is it’s greatest flaw.
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Originally posted by MelodikSyn:
Couldn’t this entire debacle be settled by “APEC” acquiring their own domain name and webhosting and continuing their RPG there? If they are indeed as serious about their RPG as they seem, wouldn’t that be the most logical solution, to establish their own web presence?
Er, um… I’ve been trying to lobby for this, but– uh– it seems that the fan fiction folk are happy where they are at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. They are concerned that if they did not regularly post fan fiction there they would drastically lose membership involvement.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
My first impression of lexx on the web was from scifi.com and lexx.com. I was not impressed and almost gave up hope on Lexx. I was still new to the show and was trying to get backround on it. I accidently found sadgeezer.com thourgh a link from a page that was linked from lexx.com, and from here I found out all the backround I needed. From then on, I’ve always loved the show. If my story is a typical representation of newbies, then others may not have been so lucky as to have found a real lexx website.
Ditto. Verbatim.
[ 18-11-2001: Message edited by: Flamegrape ]
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ParticipantA long time ago, I heard that Anakin got tossed into molten lava and that’s how he got cyborged. I’m talking 20 years ago I heard this.
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Participantquote:
Originally posted by mayaxiong:
I don’t see how opening up yet another thread about this subject so that former disgruntled posters can spew hatred on this board, is going to help settle things down here. In fact, I believe it’s perpetuating the problem. The workings of another completely different site shouldn’t even be a subject for discussion.
Well, the fact that this debate is occuring here at SadBoard and not at SciFi.Com/Lexx is merely another manifestation of the technical flaws of the SciFi.Com bulletin board system in general. As Hedgehog, Aleck, and others have pointed out, it is not possible to have an ongoing debate at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board.
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Originally posted by mayaxiong:
As for how the board loads, all you have to do is click on the button that says “view all posts” to see an entire page at a time of many different threads. I know it’s difficult to understand, but actually quite simple.
Yes, it’s very simple. But if one wants to continue a debate on a particular thread, one must search through old posts that are no longer on the “front page” of that bulletin board’s list of threads. Newcomers should not be expected to sift through dozens of posts to find the relavent topic of interest. Chances are they won’t bother. Threads are forgotten.
In fact, now that I think about it, this fundamental flaw with the SciFi.Com bulletin boards could be used as a weapon. Don’t want an issue to be debated? Simply post a bunch of new threads in a covert manner and *poof*, the thread subject scrolls away into [i]Forgotten Thread Land.[/i]
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Originally posted by mayaxiong:
After all, no one posting here gripes about how slow Saddy’s site loads, and has to be refreshed time and again to get the entire page to load..it’s something we ‘deal’ with to enjoy the topics..and we don’t take it to other lists to complain either…how the board loads there is totally out of our hands, and we adjust accordingly..
You’re right. It’s rare that anyone complains about the structure of SadBoard.
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Participantquote:
Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Does anyone have any views about LEXX fanfic?
Are you ready for one of the longest posts I’ve ever written? So many posts have been made in this thread in the last 24 hours. I haven’t had time to respond to each one. Therefore, I’ve divided my post into two sections: a question section and an opinion section.
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Since this is a volatile topic, please bear in mind that I’m not really favoring one side or another. Think of me as Joe Friday, a detective trying to figure out “just the facts, ma’am.” The questions that I ask are usually not specifically directed at the person who wrote the quoted post. Anyone may reply to my questions. And for the record, I have read few fan fiction posts anywhere on any bulletin board.
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Originally posted by FX:
…so the fanfiction that revolves around a particular clone is called clone fiction…one must have an officiallly sanctioned clone, and the proper permissions, to write clonefiction, especially if any other clones are involved…then there is the standard fanfiction…again, if you are going to use any named characters from the board, you must have permission…
Specifically, who dispenses proper permission?
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Originally posted by FX:
…but usually, the fanfictions, whatever flavor, are well marked, so that you can read it or not, as you choose…
Exactly how are the bulletin board posts marked in order to indicate that they are fan fiction posts? (FF and CF are examples. Any others?)
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Originally posted by FX:
…it’s sort of a role playing game…
If these fan fications are games, how are they started, who starts them, how long do they run, are there points involved, what is the goal, etc. If they are like role-playing games, is there a “game master” or “referee” that conducts each game? Are points awarded in some fasion?
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Originally posted by FX:
…the rules i have seen are posted by some of the people who are in apec…
Where are the rules posted? Who established and who maintains the rules? Who enforces them and how? (Actually, I think dgrequeen answered these questions. She posted a message as I was composing this post. Thanxx, dgre.)
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Originally posted by Doffy:
I am a member of the hated, all-powerful, evil APEC…
I take it that APEC is an organization that holds executive authority over “clone” fan fiction that is posted on SciFi.Com/Lexx. What do the initials A.P.E.C. stand for? Does APEC have any other presence on the Internet other than at SciFi.Com/Lexx? Does APEC maintain their own webpage? How does one join APEC? What are their rules of behavior?
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Originally posted by Doffy:
…and CowboyKai is my clone…
Did you invent CowboyKai yourself? Or was the name assigned to you as part of the parameters of the role-playing game? How does one aquire “possession” of a Kai clone?
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Originally posted by Doffy:
…there have been some incidents of unauthorized use of characters…
Can you give specific examples? (Aside from vyX who, people have already testified, was abusive.) How were the offenders punished?
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Originally posted by mayaxiong:
If you’re interested in writing a fic yourself, it’s the best place to try it out.
Are there other places on the Internet that are popular places to post fan fiction? Specifically, are there places dedicated to Lexx fan fiction?
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Originally posted by Xev of R2D2:
I also see that the posts where some people who registered nicknames mocking me were not taken down.
These are very serious accusations indeed. Have you made inquiries with the people at SciFi.Com?
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Originally posted by elfie:
scifi has tens of THOUSANDS of registered users, and only a handful (roughly… FOUR!!!) are being accused of anything at all.
Who are these accused people? So far, I think there’s Doffy, micromary, dgrequeen. Did I get those names right? Any others?
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Originally posted by elfie:
golly, i was an outsider who broke ‘the rules’ and got my own clone without asking… and THEN what did these horrible cliquish people do????????? they freaking asked my to join their chat room and email club… wow, they so totally ostrasized me. ::sob:: NOT! i don’t post clone fics, i just jumped in and got one, lol ;o)
Sarcasm aside, does APEC use the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board to audition potential players in their clone fan fiction? Or are there other bulletin boards that the general public can visit, experiment with fan fiction, and win the approval of other APEC members?
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Originally posted by elfie:
X is mad… other people are mad — WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO END IT, X? what? i mean really… what are you trying to accomplish? everytime this starts people say the same things over and over and we get no where… what are you trying to get out of this?
Good question.
Would a bulletin board forum that is exclusively dedicated to Lexx fan fiction present a solution to this arguement? What would be the downside of this solution?
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Originally posted by elfie:
i’m a moderator at KT
What is KT? Is it a bulletin board? A website?
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And now I have some personal comments that I would like to make. These are just opinions and observations.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
Many of the people complaining about the CF don’t even post at SciFi, so I have no idea what their malfunction is. We do try to mark the fics, so that if people don’t want to read them, they can skip over them. Surely there is enough room in Lexxdom for everyone! I come to Sad’s for discussion and news, and to SciFi to play. For god’s sake, if you don’t like the CF’s, don’t go there! It’s simple!
My major malfunction with the fan fictions at SciFi.Com/Lexx is pretty easy to explain.
I think fiction based on established characters and stories is just fine. It seems to me that it would be a great way for novice authors to get some practice with writing. But it can’t be ignored that fan fiction stories are fundamentally banal and derivative (meaning that they lack originality and freshness). Furthermore, [i]erotic[/i] fan fictions are fundamentally masturbatory (meaning that they serving the purpose of self-satisfaction). These are not bad things, I am just not in the least bit interested in reading such fiction. But this is not the primary reason why I do not enjoy the presence of fan fictions at SciFi.Com/Lexx.
The bulletin board system at SciFi.Com, in general, is utter cr@p. The bulletin board program itself is a user-unfriendly, ugly nightmare. It looks old and outdated. The single most annoying feature of it is that threads scroll up and disappear from the page containing the most recent posts. All modern bulletin boards keep threads with recent posts in them at the top of the list. This makes it easier to keep track of current discussions. Also, it seems that the bulletin board cannot handle posts that are too long. As a result, extra-long posts have to be broken up into several posts.
All of this results in my opinion that fan fiction is a nuisance on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. I just checked that board now and there were 15 out 40 posts on the “front page” that were dedicated to fan fiction. This is a great deal less than there usually are, I have to admit. But each fan fiction post bumps other posts off the “front page” of the bulletin board and into obscurity. Sure, anyone can search and find threads that address an issue of interest. But who is going to take the time to overcome this unexcuseable flaw of the SciFi.Com bulletin board system? The answer is no one.
The controversey with Lexx fan fiction at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is only the [i]manifestation[/i] of the poor quality of that bulletin board’s system. The fan fiction is not really a problem in itself. I beleive that this the root of the arguements that have been raging for some time now.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
All I can say is, Lexx, and yes, the clone game, has awakened new levels of creativity within me. I never wrote any fics before, and I have really enjoyed the outlet. I don’t think this is a bad thing.
I think that’s wonderful! I really do! Please do not mistake my opinion of fan fiction as dire criticism and do not let me discourage you. Despite my tastes, I beleive that fan fiction serves a useful function for aspiring writers. I hope it inspires you to take your writing skills in new and original directions. The best of luck to you.
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Originally posted by elfie:
i don’t write clone or chocolate stories, but i like to read them, just the same. don’t like it- don’t read it. purty simple.
Yes, that’s a simple answer.
But I would like to make an analogy. Bulletin boards such as the ones at SciFi.Com/Lexx are open to the public. There are many basketball courts that are similarly open to the public. Here in the USA, people can go to a civic center, a boys or girls club, YMCA, YWCA, church, or school. Some of them are closely monitored and controlled. Others are not closely watched and are open to anyone. Anybody can come in and play basketball. There are some people who like to play volleyball, but most people usually play basketball because it is the primary function of the basketball courts. Consider the fact that there are a few people who like to practice kendo, judo, karate, etc., but do not have a place of their own specifically built for the purpose of practicing martial arts. What if kendoists are there, practicing all the time? It would make it difficult for people to play basketball or volleyball. I know this is a very loose analogy, but it’s the best I could think of at the time.
The SciFi.Com bulletin board is open to anyone. No one regularly moderates that forum. The only action on the part of the SciFi Channel that is ever taken is against anyone who posts offensive comments. Aside from that, anything goes. This is another failing on the part of the SciFi.Com bulletin boards.
The presence of fan fiction on the SciFi.Com bulletin boards is akin to pop-up ads in the eyes of people who are not at all interested in such writing. Because of the frequency of fan fiction posts, it makes it difficult for people who are always having to take them into acount when searching for threads that they really want to follow. Ergo, they are a nuisance for many people.
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Originally posted by mayaxiong:
…there’s no wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth because it’s taking up ‘valuable’ space on the board.
I disagree. There have been plenty of complaints about this issue. As of late, most of these complaints have been discussed here at SadGeezer bulletin boards. The thing about complaints made at the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is that all posts addressing this issue scroll up and away as new posts are created. All such threads are quickly forgotten because of the flawed nature of that bulletin board system, as I discussed above.
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Originally posted by mayaxiong:
And just for the info, the sci-fi board is not alone in it’s fan and clone fic for Lexx, there are several other sites that specialize in this type of writing, but they are private sites or lists, and not as public as the sci-fi board.
Then people who are interested in writing and/or reading Lexx fan fiction should go to those sites and not use the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board as a workshop to practice their art. I beleive that regular announcements about those Lexx fan fiction sites posted on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board would be welcomed by many and [i]tolerated by everyone.[/i]
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Originally posted by Gelfling:
I apologize if I am going to offend anyone here, but that board touches a nerve with me. I was ran off long ago by the fictions and phobic behavior and I stand behind anyone who would stand up for themselves against the posters on SciFi.
Even though Gelfling made some insulting comments about the nature of fan fiction authors, these are serious accusations that should not be taken lightly.
quote:
Originally posted by elfie:
if the fics EXISTANCE bothers you *so* *much* that it ruins your fun at scifi… then don’t go – who cares.
This is the very heart of the issue. Fan fictions posted on the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is the most talked-about complaint. It is the usual reason why people ditch that bulletin board in favor of SadBoard. These fan fictions are driving people away from the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board.
The reason why people are fussing over this is that the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board is the [i]de facto[/i] official Lexx bulletin board. There used to be one at Lexx.Com, but it no longer seems to exist. And at issue is the domineering presence of fan fiction at this [i]de facto[/i] official Lexx bulletin board. Furthermore, a newbie Lexx fan will visit the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulleting board first. And what does the newbie see? Tons of fan fiction on an outdated bulletin board that makes it difficult to follow interesting threads.
quote:
Originally posted by elfie:
HAVE YOUR FUN AND FORGET ABOUT CLONE FICS AND APEC!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
This I do. But the only way to ignore Lexx clone fan fictions and APEC is to not visit the SciFi.Com/Lexx bulletin board. Their presence cannot be ignored.
quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog & Aleck:
[i][b](SEE THEIR RESPECTIVE POSTS ABOVE.)[/b][/i]
I essentially agree with everything that Hedgehog and Aleck said in the above posts.
One final thing. I think that the members of APEC should no longer be concerned with the antics of X. I think that story is over. The real issue, I believe, is the presence of fan fiction at SciFi.Com/Lexx in general that is regarded as a nuisance. And I must yet again strongly advocate the activation of a bulletin board forum (here at SadBoard or elsewhere) that is entirely dedicated to Lexx fan fiction without any worries of dire criticism.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
One more thing: Flamegrape-What is the U.R.L. for your website?
I’ll give you [b]ONE[/b] guess.
[img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
([b]HINT:[/b] Only a complete and utter gimboid would fail to guess what it is. It starts with an [url=http://www.]http://www.[/url] and it ends with a .com.) [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] LOL!Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
Okay, just one more thing that I forgot. About this semantic theory of Zev/Xev: I’m not saying whether it is true or false, but before I believe it I’ll have to see some evidence. Is there anything in writing?
1. The booklet with soundtrack CD names her as Xev.
2. All of the season 2 DVDs have Xev written on the cover.
3. All of the credits at the end of every episode of season 2, 3, and 4 lists Xev.
4. Paul Donovan refers to her as Xev.
5. Lex Gigeroff refers to her as Xev.
6. Jeffrey Hirschfield refers to her as Xev.
7. SadGeezer.Com referes to her as Xev.
8. Everyone on the SciFi.Com bboard refers to her as Xev.
9. Everyone (except for you) on the SadGeezer.Com bboard refers to her as Xev.
10. And oh yeah, I almost forgot. Xenia Seeberg, the actress who plays the part of Xev, refers to her as Xev.
[Initiating sarcasm mode…] But no, I think you are absolutely right and everyone else is wrong. The character’s name written as “Xev” is a misprint everywhere and in actuality it should be written as “Zev”. A CD, DVD, VHS recall campaign is in order and all of the season 2, 3, and 4 episodes have to be re-mastered before they can be shown on television ever again. [Deactivating sarcasm mode.]
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Flamegrape
ParticipantCool! I finally got my [i]Lexx: The Series[/i] soundtrack in the mail today. Even better than the fact that I got my CD is the fact that after THREE attempts, I finally got a copy that doesn’t have Petula Clark on it! It’s about time!
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
I have a personal question for you, Flame. Where did you get that image? Did you make it yourself. If so, can I find it (and other digital art you’ve done) online?
I made the image myself using a 3d animation program called [i]SoftImage[/i] while in art school. I’m rebuilding a better version of the character in [i]3d Studio Max[/i] and/or [i]Poser[/i].
Flamegrape has been a project that’s been on the back-burner for a while now. I want to use the character as the mascot of my website. Or better yet, as the main character of a videogame. She’s loosely inspired by a number of other charaters: Artemis, Sil (from [i]Species[/i]), the android from [i]Metropolis[/i], that female robot from Frank Miller’s [i]Hard Boiled[/i], [url=http://www.flamegrape.com/abbydalton/index.htm]Abby Dalton[/url] in [url=http://www.mst3kinfo.com/daddyo/di_317.html]Viking Women vs The Sea Serpent[/url], Jellybean from [i]Even Cowgirls Get The Blues[/i] (or maybe she’s more like the Chink– “Ha ha ho ho hee hee”), Xev (not Zev– get it straight, Lee), Lara Croft, [b]not Xena[/b], Sandy Bullock as Gracie-Lou Freebush in [i]Miss Congeniality[/i], Barbara Eden from [i]I Dream of Genie[/i], Catherine Schell as [url=http://www.flamegrape.com/maya/index.htm]Maya of Psychon[/url] on [i]Space:1999[/i], Patricia Tallman as [url=http://www.flamegrape.com/lytaalexander/index.htm]Lyta Alexander[/url] on [i]Babylon 5[/i], Sioxie Sioux, Pris from [i]Blade Runner[/i]…. you might get the idea by now.
Once I complete the new version of the character model, I’ll have images available for download. That might be next year at the rate I’m going. The first version I made could not talk, have facial expressions (other than blink), or have poseable hands. The new one will.
On a final note, the face of Flamegrapae is actually the face of a girl I knew in art school. To prove that one doesn’t need expensive laser scanning equipment to make an acurate 3d model of a person’s face, I replicated this girl’s face by having her model for me and I simply used a makeup pencil and photography. Unfortunately, that girl was killed in the ValueJet plane crash in 1996 a week before she and I graduated. This computer-generated model is all I have left of her. Flamegrape will always remain in existence as long as I live.
(And yes, she saw my work before she died and thought it was really cool! And if anyone starts singing [i]My Heart Will Go On[/i], I will beat you with a clown hammer.)
[ 17-11-2001: Message edited by: Flamegrape ]
Flamegrape
ParticipantWhy don’t we lock this topic so it doesn’t crash the bboard with too many posts?
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by FX:
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] fx sings “fishheads fishheads, itty bitty fishheads…” (dodges tomato)…umm hello, and welcome ddh [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
[i]Fish Heads[/i]
by Barnes & Barnes[i](Chorus and first verse)
Fish heads fish heads
Roly poly fish heads
fish heads fish heads
eat them up, yum!Ask a fish head anything you want to
they wont answer they cant talk.(chorus)
I took a fish head out to see a mooovie
didnt have to pay to get it in.(chorus)
They don’t play baseball
they don’t wear sweaters
they’re not good dancers
They dont play drums!!(chorus)
Rolypoly fishheads are never seen drinking capachino in Italian restaurants
with oriental women!!!!!Yeah!
Fish heads fish heads
roly poly fish heads
fish heads fish heads
eat them up Yum!YEEAAHHHH!!!!!![/i]
Flamegrape
ParticipantEverything that Aleck said about J.R. “Bob” Dobbs is correct. But he forgot to mention the part about “X Day” when “Bob” cuts a deal with aliens and secures passage for Subgenii on the UFOs to spend eternity with the Sex Goddesses. It’s better than any other UFO cult or double your money back. A great guy, that geezer!
Every week the Church of the Subgenius broadcasts a radio show, [url=http://www.ibiblio.org/subgenius/ts/hos.html]The Subgenius Hour of Slack[/url]. You can go to their webpage and download the latest broadcast in MP3 format. (Beware. The MP3s are about 50MB in size– you might try Real Audio format instead.) The inhalation of frop is recommended before listening.
[i]Praise “Bob”![/i]Flamegrape
ParticipantI see what you mean. You need to have QuickTime Pro in order to view the high-resolution version of the trailer.
BTW, the trailer looks really cool. Can’t wait to see the movie. Looks better than Episode I!
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by JumpingJedi:
Oh yes. We get the full shower scene in the upcoming P4X and also a rogue nipplie in Walpurgis Night!
I really hate American television censors. As far as sex goes, they’ve shown everything BUT the image of nudity. I’ve seen shows with people humping away, moaning and groaning, but they can’t show a single tit.
(Has everyone synchronized their watches? Counting down, 5… 4… 3… 2… )
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
It’s not like I’m ever [i]trying[/i] to offend anyone, people just respond negatively to some of my posts on a seemingly random basis.
It’s not random. People point it out every time it happens and you don’t take it to heart because I don’t think you can. Start looking for a pattern to this “random”ness. Trouble is, personality is not something that can be quantified. You are obsessed with objective thought and feel you are not subject to subjective criticism. [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
[ 16-11-2001: Message edited by: Flamegrape ]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Aleck:
Or, alternately, [b]don’t post images that are the size of your monitor screen[/b]. Not only does it screw up the display of the page, the file size could contribute to the problems we’ve had with the board, in making the pages take significantly longer to load.
I wasn’t going to give any technical advice to Lee but if the stability of the bboard is at stake…
[img]http://www.flamegrape.com/pic/flamegrape_shot_20_v21a.jpg[/img]
Don’t use images that are more than 25 kilobytes in size. The width of the image should not be more than 320 pixels. The smaller, the better. Look at other images that other people have posted on the bboard and examine them with a shareware paint program.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
(Say, do any H.T.M.L. gurus know how to shrink images so they don’t screw up the width of the display thingie?)
Obtain an image processing program like Adobe Photoshop. Since it costs at least $400 and I’m not going to give you my copy, I recommend finding a shareware paint program that can load and save JPEG, BMP, and GIF file formants.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Aleck:
I don’t think that I have to *convince* people that you’re arrogant and offensive. You do a very good job of that on your own. The sad thing is that you are unable to see the arrogance and offensive nature of your own posts.
For God’s sake, Lee, if there is ANYTHING you should take to heart it’s the above comment.
Lee, this is what you said to me in another thread (the subject and context is irrelevant):
quote:
Originally posted by Lee P. Sherman, a.k.a. DalekTek790:
(02-11-2001 11:41 PM)
Perhaps it was wrong of me to believe you could comprehend let alone appreciate the depth of my wisdom and insight.
What you said to me, Lee, was the most supremely arrogant and insulting statement I’ve ever had to endure from anyone. And the most maddening thing is that you don’t care. You have no empathy for anyone else’s feelings. And then you had the gall to wonder why I’m no longer nice to you, started whining about your hurt feelings, and then demanded an apology. So I gave you one.
But after what you said, I’ve completely lost all respect for you, Lee, and it will [i]never[/i] return. When I first came here, [i]I did not listen to the arguements of Aleck or anyone else[/i] because I [i]always[/i] give people the benefit of the doubt. But now every time [i]you[/i] start some arguement on this bulletin board, I will quote what you said to me. [i][b]I will always remind you.[/b][/i] [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
No, I have never desired to “screw” anyone, real or fictional. I don’t see anything in either Zev. I must confess that I do think Lyekka and Wist are cute, alluring, and maybe attractive on some level [img]images/smiles/icon_redface.gif[/img] , but [b]not[/b] sexy. I think most of us, at some point in our lives, have found ourselves a little attracted to one or more fictional characters of the opposite sex…
[img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/RedDwarf/2-6-08.jpg[/img]
[i]”If you want to keep your beer cool, stick it between his legs!”[/i]
(Arlene Rimmer from the [i]Red Dwarf[/i] episode, [i]Parallel Universe[/i].)
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Flamegrape
Participant[i]If you’re in trouble he will save the day
He’s brave and he’s fearless come what may
Without him the mission would go astrayHe’s Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer
Without him life would be much grimmer
He’s handsome, trim, and no-one slimmer
He will never need a zimmerHe’s Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer
More reliable than a garden strimmer
He’s never been mistaken for Yul Brynner
He’s not bald, and his head doesn’t glimmerMaster of the wit and the repartee
His command of space directives is uncanny
How come he’s such a genius?
Don’t ask me!Ask Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer
He’s also a fantastic swimmer
And if you play your cards right
Then he just might come round for dinnerHe’s Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer
No rhymes left now apart from quimmer
We hope they fade us out before we get to schlimmer
Fade out you stupid plimmer[/i]Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
What is that mark on Kai’s cheek supposed to be, anyway? A birthmark? A genetic caste mark? A tattoo? Self-inflicted ritual scarring? Do all Brunnen-G have it? All Brunnen-G males? All Brunnen-G in the warrior caste? All newborns? Just Kai? I can’t remember this ever being addressed on the show.
A map to the homeworld of the Brunnin-G in the Light universe.
[EDIT NOTE: Oops, sorry. I ment to say: “A map to the homeworld of the Brunnin-G in the DARK UNIVERSE.” My bad.]
[ 15-11-2001: Message edited by: Flamegrape ]
Flamegrape
ParticipantOk, it’s OBVIOUS this show is based on the X-Men comic book and movie. But what I’m wondering is if it is licensed by Marvel comics or whatever. Is it a spin-off of the X-Men movie? If not, then I smell massive lawsuit.
I’ve glimpsed a few seconds of the show while channel surfing. I don’t like super-hero stories. But I’ll check out the Wonder Woman movie if Sandra Bullock stars.
I used to be a big fan of the Hulk and Superman when I was a kid, but I grew out of it. Today I read comics like [i]Transmetropolitan[/i] or [i]Knights of the Dinner Table[/i].
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Hypatia:
Oooh holy and everlasting Aleck, ommm, ommm owwm, blah blah blah.
Om A Leck Ni Pad Me Hum
Om A Leck Ni Pad Me Hum
Om A Leck Ni Pad Me Hum
Om A Leck Ni Pad Me HumOh, Aleck! I want to bear your clone children! I’m sure my biosystems can be modified and extra plates added to my exoskeleton!
[img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Squish-ums:
Squishy is interested in getting a life, where do you get them from and how much do they cost???
J.R. Bob Dobbs will not only sell you a life and broker your soul but he’ll even throw in some [i][b]slack[/b][/i] to boot!
[img]http://www.flamegrape.com/bob.gif[/img]
[url=http://www.subgenius.com/]The Church of the Subgenius[/url]
[b]PRAISE BOB![/b]Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Nirvanah Rimmer:
…someone should give you an award for being able to watch Lexx without desiring to screw Xev (god, that girl makes ME feel funny, and I’m a pure hetero.)ooooh, that was bad, anyone feel like spanking me? LOL
I know exactly what u mean, sugar-pie. And I’d be happy to oblige you, too! [i][smak, smak, smak][/i] You too, Lomia! [i][smak, smak, smak][/i]
[img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]
God, I love this bboard! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
I happen to be incredibly intelligent.
[b][i]”The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.”[/i][/b]
(Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn)[img]http://www.flamegrape.com/pic/jarjar4.jpg[/img]
Oh, goooood one, JarJarTek790!
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]15th November 2001 at 6:47 am in reply to: anyone know of any Lexx action figures coming out eventually #50389Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by :
Theres Red Dwarf action figures in the work too! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
RED DWARF??? WHERE??? [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
I never said anything about genetic manipulation, either. From a purely logical point of view sex would have no biological purpose if reproduction is done through cloning. The abandonment of the practice would be cultural, not genetic. Perhaps some members toward the beginning would require processes like therapy, instrumental conditioning, or even drugs to eliminate urges (as was done in Terrestria), but it would be done.
See the movie THX-1138. It’s all about a society like that. People will have sex anyway unless it’s bred out of them.
quote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
And the idea that a clone race would try to alter the non-clones is just part of the bias that clones are evil, which is simply not logical. A cloned race would exist because there were no other humans. Cloning would be a way to perpetuate the dwindling human population in the unfortunate event of near extinction. Clones would not only be human, but the [i]only[/i] humans.
If that were the horrifying case I think that the survivors would attempt to artificially create genetic variation in children in order to create hereditary variety. (e.g. White girl and black guy has oriental and middle-eastern paternal twins.)
But if all they could do is clone from one original, then they are doomed. Boring, to say the least.
quote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
To use my own hypothetical example, the Yün Siph are pacifists. They take action only when order is disrupted. The war on their people was started by an evil totalitarian régime who used religious and political manipulation to convince the trans-human commonfolk that the Yün Siph were the source of all their problems. This propaganda campaign was launched for the purpose of scapegoating, placing blame on a group that the organization seeking power had the ability to eliminate.
Interesting story idea. But unless the sexual drive was genetically eliminated, a good percentage of the Yün Siph would be gay, like in [i]Nook[/i].
quote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
never said anything about sex. Aleck however focused entirely on that subject and put me in a position where I had no alternative but to address that topic. An Aleck+followers vs. Lee topic is exactly what I was trying to avoid here (read my first post). And I didn’t say anything about myself except that I do not believe the theory that there is some sort of instinct that makes people have a sexual appetite.
Aleck is trying to make me out to be somehow abnormal. The fact is that I am just an average 18 year old American male college freshman.As my hero Dr. Carl Sagan said, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” I would like to hear some sort of legitimate scientific evidence that this notion of an inborn sex drive is accurate. I believe what is factually supported. Nothing more, nothing less.
After careful review of a number of videotapes of a popular British television show and in light of the preponderance of evidence found in the SadGeezer bulletin board message-posts about your sexual hang-ups, I have no choice but to conclude that you are indeed a smeghead.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
You were the one who brought sex and Puritan values into this thread, not I. I don’t know if you’re trying to make me feel ashamed for saying cloning is okay or if you’re just trying to start an argument but it’s getting on my nerves.
No, DT. [b]YOU[/b] are the one who brought up this issue. Cloning is directly associated with sexuality.
quote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
But in a cloned civilization sex would not be required to procreate, so the logical course of action would be to discontinue the practice.
A cloned civilization with the sexual instinct removed by genitic manipulation would not be considered human. It would be some other species, but not human.
quote:
Originally posted by Headgehog:
Humans think about sex every 6 seconds.
quote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
That’s an unfair generalization.
Unfair? It’s a fact, not speculation or generalization. Only the time increment varies.
quote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
But in a cloned civilization sex would not be required to procreate, so the logical course of action would be to discontinue the practice.
In order to remove the sexual instinct, genetic manipulation would be necessary. Such a new creature could not be classified as human but as a new species.
Discrimination and racism (how humans would treat this new species) is a separate issue. It would seem likely that the clones would attempt to change humans to their way of life. Eventually this would result in war and hopefully the clone race would be exterminated.
In my book, preaching against the sexual drive is anti-life and therefore twisted and evil. [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Aleck:
(2) Cloning goes against the basic Puritan/Catholic repressive mindset (which has been unconciously been imprinted on Western society) that states that the primal sexual instinct is for reproduction only, and that any sex outside of that is sinful.
I’d like to clone myself as the opposite sex so I could go f*** myself! HA!
[img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]If it could be done, I’d have no problem cloning myself for organ transplants or hors d’oeuvres. [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by mayaxiong:
Xev actually DOES have a tattoo around her navel, it’s not ‘scales’. I have a huge poster of it, and can see it quite clearly, it’s an Indian design (not American Indian)and she also has one on her lower back.
I got that poster in the mail yesterday. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I’m so happy! [Jumps around like flower-girl from [i]Garden[/i].] I’m going to get a nice frame for it, too. [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
ParticipantIf someone wants to bother with creating detailed diagrams of the Lexx and it’s component parts, it would be easier for me to build a 3d computer-generated model.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by DalekTek790:
How long is the Lexx?
About the size of Manhattan.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by elfie:
from reading the interview… i do think the moderators were overly obsessed with mm, and it was my biggest complaint aside from the 3- way thing lol ;o) but it still had lots of good info, and i think most fans would have focused on their fave actor on the show, whether theirs was brian or xenia or whoever. they are obviously not professional journalists so i’m not going to make anything out of whether their article was a bit on the “yellow” side or not.
I think that’s true. If I had gone on the trip, I would have focused more on Xenia. I would have done my modest best to have some sort of interview with her. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by :
So what does he want with Xev? He had the Lexx (or he thought so) and he was still interested in her.
Maybe Xev is God! LOL! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I can go for that theory!
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Aleck:
Just another thing about posting images, DT.Be careful when posting images from some free servers (geocities, yahoo, angelfire) because they don’t allow linking directly to images. If you have the image in your personal cache, it will show up, but only for you. For anyone else, it will either show the “broken image” symbol or, in the case of angelfire, a dumb logo.
Just another bit o’ help.
–Aleck
Yup, I’ve noticed the same thing happening before. That’s why I’ve set up a directory on my website called /pic where I place all my misc. images usually used for the specific purpose of posting images to bboards. I suppose in a few years it might fill up with all sorts of weird collections of jpegs and gif files. I suppose I’ll open a gallery in Soho.
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by Princess of Fire:
He did try to kill Stan in P4X. As for successfully killing, yes. In Tunnels, he pushes those evil ballerinas into the pit of bear traps to their deaths. In Battle, he shoots Priest with a crossbow after he stabbed him and pushed him off the balloon. And remember in Heaven and Hell, he tells Xev to strangle a guy on his knees? She refuses and so Prince kills him in cold blood with a knife! [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
That’s all I can remember right now. So to answer your question, Prince is capable of killing someone himself. He doesn’t always need someone else to do his dirty work.
Well, there goes my theory maybe. I’ve been wondering if Prince is actually neautral in alignment, always looking for some sort of balance. I don’t know.
But I think all of the people he’s directly killed were inhabitants of Fire. There souls are eternally damned anyway. Prince could have the people he killed reappear on Fire the instant after he kills them. So what did it matter? I’m not sure he killed any inhabitants of Water, but even then would it matter?
But if Prince is the same as Satan, who is God? There was no “Prince of Water” or anything like that. Prince had the power to move Stan “to the front of the line” in the evil-soul holding area (3.13 [i]Heaven & Hell[/i]). Who had the power to manipulate the good-soul holding area on Water? Apparently, not all of the good-souls are permitted to exist on Water at the same time.
Maybe I should re-structure my question to, “Has Prince killed anyone in Season 4?”
I guess he did kill those astronauts in 4.02 [i]Texx Lexx[/i]. But he didn’t strangle them, he ordered them to go on a spacewalk and then stranded them. Conceivably, the astronauts could have been rescued later. But one of the astronauts got cooked because he was floating in the wake of the shuttle’s engine exaust– that was the astronaut’s own fault, I suppose.
Flamegrape
Participant[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cat:
[url=http://www.lexxdirectory.co.uk/briseis/frozen.html]http://www.lexxdirectory.co.uk/briseis/frozen.html[/url][/Q UOTE]LOL! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Flamegrape
Participantquote:
Originally posted by CBrate:
What? Sticking all the new Lexx topics here? That’d be funny.
No, I think DT means that people are posting non-Lexx threads in the Lexx General Discussion forum when they should be posting them here.
Flamegrape
Participant[i]Oh, poopy![/i]
[img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]Flamegrape
Participant[i]Great green gobs
Of greasy, grimy, gopher guts,
Mutilated monkey meat,
Dirty, little birdie feet!
Great green gobs
Of greasy, grimy gopher guts,
And me without my spoon!
BUT I BROUGHT MY FORK!!![/i]
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