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ParticipantAgain, excellent review!
oooo, uh question? From these Cylon devices, we know now the Cylons wanted to save Galactica, why else put them on there. Was it because they had no access to the the other battlestars, was it because Boomer was there and they wanted to give her a chance to carry out her mission, but Six pointed Baltar to it in the mini and they removed it. Why save the Battlestar? To kill Adama? No, the plan is not fully fleshed out yet, be it the Boomer baby which I think was something the Cylons (or writers) kinda did after they got a pace to that story. Was it to give the Colonials a chance to find Kobol and to have them do all the leg work. I mean, if the Cylons knew about the arrow why didn’t they retrieve it for themselves on Caprica, unless a human can be the one to retrieve it. If it is to make the Colonials work, nice spin from robot’s doing it to humans doing the work.
Who planted it? The same one who told Adama there was 12 models. Boomer, no. There might be a hidden Cylon on this ship; I didn’t want to believe it, but now. Hmmmm. This baby was not the only plan, nor the Kobol find. They want something. They want Earth.
may be the reasoning is that they could put Cylons and Cylon hybrids in power and then get a better reception on Earth. Otherwise they do it themselves.
Or…..or the Cylons have been to Earth and found them much more receptive than Colonials but somehow Cylons stood out. I mean show up on our doorstep, in a space ship, if Earth has the technlogy they’ll blow them out of the sky as we are wont to do of anything we don’t understand 🙄 So, the Cylons lost their way ’cause the early toasters went boom on Earth, and learning from that and taking the Galactica which is an older ship which may be what humans can relate to more than the modern ships, they bring a treat, a gift for Earth. A sky filled with ships and more human-like inhabitants for more acceptance.
The systematically reduce the numbers so Earthlings will not be overwhelmed and they put Cylon supporters in power.
The fight for Kobol will not be only with Cylons. Adama will want to try to settle on Kobol, Roslin will push for Earth. Roslin will get Cylon help via drug or not because it fits their plan, which means get rid if Adama and in the chaos and Tigh in command (with Ellen at his side) they may get Roslin back in power but with Tigh at least he’s neutralized. Plan B if Baltar does not toe the line, Zarek.
Will Zarek settle for Kobol or go for Earth? Wherever he can be in charge, that boy loves power and loves to wield it. if the Cylon’s offer him something good, he might back their agenda.Thought just food for thought to chomp on with your jellybeans 😉
mandara k
ParticipantGood for them, I think they need an infusion of new thinking. hmmmm. 😈
Another Moore though, I think the time for Moores’ is coming to the end. Next, We worked through Michael Moore, Julianne Moore, and others, now will it be an N or skip to R. R sounds right.
Rodriques or Rodriguez not only Sin City but others will emerge.
Okay, that’s my crazy freaky look but you know me just wait for it.
mandara k
ParticipantWell, This isn’t done yet, i have a few pages to finish it up.
This one took an afternoon when I was hot to write it down. Like i said, I have another one hot on it’s heels but I have restricted myself to one at a time.
Thank goodness I’m among friends 😉 Like I said, pulitzer prize i am not, but I appreciate your support.
Here goes, may be i can finish this tonight and get down the other on paper. I’m revising this one as I type from the rough one on paper.
mandara k
ParticipantA musical voice chuckled behind the white field.
” Oh Lee, such ceremony, I’ve known you longer than anyone.”
“I….I.”
“You don’t remember, I know. Just call me Maman then, that’s what this brood does.” The warm breeze began lifting the sheet higher and Lee could see now a length of thighs covered in folds of linen and then two chubby legs cradled in slender arms.
“Come, Let us talk.”
Lee ducked under the billowing mast neatly pegged to a thick line. He started when he saw the figure of a tall, statuesque woman holding a child with a deformed leg. Lee also noted scarring on the child’s features and the eyes of anger and hate. Shuddering, Lee shifted his gaze to the placid features of the woman. She was older, yet graceful, her greying hair pulled back softly, and her eyes, though sporting crow’s feet, were lively and very kind.
The child began fidgeting and reaching for Lee, but the lady re-adjusted the tot on her hip and softly but firmly tucked his little arms in hers. “Not Now,” she whispered, and brushed her lips against his peeling brow. With one more whimper as he watched Lee, the deformed boy settled against her chest and sighed.
“I must apologize for Marsy, he can be so impetuous at times, can’t you Marsy- love.” With that said she planted a kiss on a mass of dark curly hair.
“Ma’am, I mean Maman, I’m sorry I don’t know where are I am or who you are. Is this a dream?”
The lady smiled sweetly at him. “of course it is, dear, but you have visited us many times in the past especially when you were a child.
Now look at you, a fine youg man. Turn around and let me look at you.”Lee sheepishly obliged and after make the revolution, noticed her smiled deepened.
“Your father must be very pleased.”
mandara k
Participant” Lee!”
“LEE!”
Once more Lee was started from sleep, but this time he woke to dusty dials, and a worn navigation column, but as he lifted his eyes there was no bay with scurrying orange figures but a sky of bright blue. Confused, he shook his head from side to side. Looking around he noticed the limb of a great tree was shading him in the viper and the twitter and call of birds assailed his ears.
From the limb a giggle ensued that was quickly shushed.
“Hello?”
More giggles and some whispers.
“Who’s there?”
A child’s voice then spoke, “Hullo, Lee!”
A tow-headed child’s face then emerged from the leafy branch.
“We were wondering when you were coming back to see us.
But you are much older now, isn’t he Thena?”Another child’s head emerged from their spying place and look at Lee with a smile.
“Yup, that’s him, she’s been waiting, you know, for a while. Ready to speak of ‘grown-up things’ Thena rolled her eyes.
“Who’s been waiting?”
“She has, silly! Pol better take you to her. I want to practice with my bow.”
“All right, I’ll take him, but Thena don’t shoot anything, I’m always having to fix up what you injure. Promise me to shoot at any animals or follow them, you know you’re gone for days when you do that. Maman will be furious!”
” All right, I’ll wait for you. Go on now, she’s waiting.”
A very handsome boy emerged at the trunk of the great tree and walked over to the viper. With a smile he held out his hand. Lee reached to grasp his hand as he climbed out of the cockpit. Still holding Lee’s hand, the child tugged it forward and slightly to the right. “She’s this way.”
“Who?”
“You really don’t remember, do you? Well, you must remember something, you were flying her colors.”
Puzzled even more, Lee could only managed an “Oh,” as the pair walked on. Pol began swinging their hands back and forth and Lee smiled slightly at that. Something was oddly familiar about this boy and this place, but he could not recall to mind ever being here or knowing this boy.
“Do they still call you Apollo?”
“Yeah, that’s my call sign. How did you know that?”
Well, silly, I’m the one who thought of that, you know after the secret doublehandshake written in blood brotherhood initiation
ceremony. Remember how Zak got squeamish after we cut his hand?”“Zac? You know Zac? How?”
“He came with you, he just appeared when you did. We haven;t seen him for a long time. It’s funny he didn’t arrive with you. May be it’s ’cause you are all grown-up. She told us that everything could be different when you came back. I’m glad you kept the name though.”
Lee smiled at the engaging little boy and then noticed they had entered a clearing full of line after line of billowing white sheets floating in the warm breeze.
“She says it been too dry, she’s got her clouds on the line. C’mon!”
The child let go of Lee’s hand and ran forward.
“He’s here! He’s here!”
Lee moved in the direction the boy ran and as he moved closer he heard a a quiet conversation behind one of the billowing squares. Stopping in front of one he could see two sets of feet. one set small and brown, the other tanned but graceful. next to them lie a huge basket with more white sheets intermingled with grey and black.
“Tell Thena not to go far, she is nigh impossible to find when she hunts. And be back before too long. You have your evening ride to take care of.”
” I know Maman, we’ll be back way before then.”
“M’aam?”
“See that you are, these rain clouds can’t cover every place.”
“M’aam?”
The boy raced out from under the sheet and with a quick hug of lee’s legs and a smile, ran off to find his sister.
Lee cleared his throat.
mandara k
ParticipantHe entered the bay that never seemed to be silent and was saluted by the night crew of the deck.
“Sir, may i help you?” asked a very weary specialist.
“No, I just wanted to stretch my legs.”
“Oh.’ The crewman hesitated and then blurted out, “We are all sorry to hear about what happened to Commander Adama, we hope he is doing better.”
Lee smirked, and gave him the shoulder squeeze that is becoming common place during this time. He then walked toward a viper whose innards seem to be all over the place.
“How are the new fittings coming?”
“Slow sir, without the Chief and Starbuck it’s hard to know what should go where.”
“I’ll bet. Do the best you can.”
“Yes, sir, we will.”
Lee then spied a viper towards the back of the bay, partially hidden in shadows.
“What’s that vipe doing back there?”
“Oh, her?” She’s in too bad a shape to fly. we’ve been harvesting her for spare parts.”
Lee moved toward the viper and the specialist followed.
‘Do you have any water?” Lee asked.
“Sure, I’ll get you some.” As the crewman went to fetch a glass, Lee ran his hand over the wing of the abandoned ship and turnig his head to the side tried to make out the faded letters of her call sign. H E R…. it read but that was all that was left.
“Here you go sir.”
“Thank you specialist, I think I’m going to spend some time thinking here with the old girl, do you mind?”
“Not at all sir.” And with a salute the man was gone.
Lee removed the cap on the vial and tossed down two caplets and took a lage swig of the water. He then climbed onto the wing, and pushed the glass aside and crawled in the pilot seat. The dials were familiar, the claustorphobic feel, yet it felt like a cradle somehow, a warm spot to curl up in.
mandara k
ParticipantShe was waking up, the grand old lady, and the everyday sounds of morning echoed through her metal halls. The calls of his shipmates, their laughter, as they made their way from their racks to the heads or the mess or to their stations was so familiar to him that it was hard to recall any other home before the Galactica.
Lee made his way toward his barracks, returning salute after salute. This somehow jarred him, this simple act, for now the eyes under the gesture were full of worry, and concern, pity, and fear and he had nothing to offer them in return. It had been determined earlier to keep Adama’s condition on a need to know basis because of the continual Cylon threat. The best he could do was to offer a slight smile, or an occasional squeeze of a shoulder of his fellow Galacticans.
At least he had been spared Kara’s reaction to all of this. She would have probably went to the brig and beat Boomer to a pulp after the shock of realizing her friend pulled the trigger. Always, the voice of reason, he thought wrily to himself, always the one with the cooler head, I’m always the one who has to be calm and collected, the CAG. There are times i wish…. I wish….
Lee stopped in front of the hatch to his rack. He knew that sleep would allude him there. Turning on his heel he headed in the other direction.
mandara k
ParticipantOkay, here we go. i can’t promise it’s straight sci -fi ’cause it’s more fantasy but I’m gonna let it rip.
The tone startled Lee awake. He groaned as he shifted in the metal chair and massaged the back of his aching neck. Stealing a glance at his prone father, he began stretching his cramped muscles.
“You’re still here?” barked a gruff voice.
Lee nodded at the figure in a white lab coat, and asked,
“Why isn’t he waking up?”
Dr. Cottle flipped through the chart and then placed it back on the hook. He then lit another stick and inhaled.
” I don’t know, we weaned him off the happy juice yesterday. If there was a fever, I’d say they missed something in surgery, but the wounds were in his abdomen, not his head. We’ll give him a little longer to see if the narcan wears off.”
Cottle’s eyes narrowed, “How long since you slept Lee?”
“A couple of days, I suppose.”
“You need rest, you’re not going to do him any good if you are lying the bunk next to him.”
” I tried Doc, but i can’t seem to find a comfortable spot.”
“Humph…” Cottle muttered. He then reached in his lab coat pocket and tossed a vial at Lee.
Catching it easily he read the label.
“What’s this?”
“My sandman special, seems to be really popular of late.”
“I’ll bet, but Doc i can’t take these. What if he wakes up or we have another attack.”
Dr. Cottle stubbed out the butt on the floor and picked up the chart again. He read aloud as he wrote.
“Lee Adama is NOT allowed to see his father for 24 hrs.’
“You can’t do that!” Lee exclaimed.
Cottle lifted an eybrow, and said, ” for 48 hours, as he wrote. He then looked at Lee, “want to try for more, may be a week?”
“All right, all right, Doc. You win.”
“Take two and don’t call me in the morning, okay?”
Lee agreed and moved toward Adama.
“See ya later, old man.”
mandara k
ParticipantLogan, she’s absolutely gorgeous, and getting so big! I remem
ber when she was so little! Time, they grow so quickly!So cute!
It’s time to put this story in, ’cause i got another one on it’s heels and i should try to finish one before starting another. Looks like a long night, better put the kettle on for tea.
mandara k
ParticipantOM LOK!
to those just joining us that’s trans.
Oh my lords of Kobol,
LOGIE! ” MWHAAA!” air kiss, air kiss(better than Gene Simmons)
How they swinging, boyfriend?
The prodigal finally returns to the roost. 😈
How’s the lovely Mrs. Logie and the little punkin?
And where’s the recent pics?
mandara k
ParticipantAgain, i switched off that story to one that has more drive. I have no title for it so, it’s very rough and very looong. Yeesh, if i only could write well. 😥
mandara k
ParticipantYikes! I’m not even sure I can go but if I can reserve stuff now to pass the torch in a pinch I’ll do that now. Oh great Frey. PM me with details. my Dad’s health precludes everything now, so commitment this early is impossible. But I want to be there, boy do i want to be there!
mandara k
ParticipantI’m glad you disagree and i understand that but that stiff upper lip thing, though possibly fine for decorum, and training just isn’t gritty or real. I’m not saying they should ball their eyes out in the CIC but a moment in the camera in a bunk, with a bowed head, one or two tears, quickly wiped away. It’s not much to ask of someone that lost whole families and a way of life. it’s not wimpy for men to cry, in fact I would rather they it do once in a while than pounding a fist into something or someone or taking up a bottle or humping anything in a skirt to deal with pain.
Yes, we see them close to tears, but none fall. let them fall.
mandara k
ParticipantThat’s entertaining to say the least. I’d be living on the dust moon circling Caprica to be near my loves of art but I’d sneak out of there with all those plastic people. Yick! I mean there is pretty and real attractive and then there is pretty and vain, blech.
Where’s the farming colony, huh? Where where? I’m a Capricorn but it never suits me these astrological crap. Jesus was a Capricorn too, I don’t see him only hobnobbing with the rich and climbing the social ladder as they say those with my sign do. Blech, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I like genuine people, not those self-professed, looked like they stepped out of an Old Navy commercial, obsessed with stuff and perfect physical form, arrogant asses. i dance to my own tune and frack the rest! Who wants to live in a place from a glossy magazine, who wants to be around glossy people all the time. Not me, some of the most attractive faces are plain to others but they have character. Olmos is attractive because it’s different. I mean you go to places like LA there are thousands of these “beautiful”people running everywhere and they look the same. No, give me the different faces, untouched by plastic surgeons hands and a sun lamp.
Ah, but you know me, I’ll never be a lemming, following the crowd, even if the crowd jumps off a cliff. Doesn’t matter if you’re the first lemming or the last, you still go over the cliff.
Sorry, but the BB and their ass-kissing make me sick 🙄 but i like the planet run-down so far, I’d probably be from some where far off, I think i have a Piscean rising, that screws up the works.
Did you make this up yourself from the snippets from the series? I’m impressed and pleasantly surprised. keep going, Sir Headge, keep going!
mandara k
ParticipantActually heading down to the Pour House on Bolyston after work this evening for free apps and beveys.
Oh my that brings up memories, they still have that place open? No, the Pour House is an institution for college students, on Boylston right?
[quote]Here’s the real reason I’m such a Philip K. Dick fan…all the Gnosticism in his later works…Valis esp.
[/quote]Really? i don’t read Philip K, my bro does and loves him. I’ve seen the adapted movies however. May be after Faust, Doestevsky’s Crime and Punishment and may be Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina I’ll sneak that in. I’m into Russian writers now “shrugs”
[quote]Little weird I’m finding to tell folks what and where I’d like to study, seems to provoke a lot of strong reactions in people,[/quote]
I bet! To be honest the time has come for new ideas of spirituality and no better genre than sci-fi fantasy. I commend you for that. I try to sneak some beliefs in my own but you really have to be careful to leave it open for all, or you look preachy and I’ve been accused of that. i
t’s just that i have a restlessness, and a need to speed up the process of getting ideas out there and discussed and haggled over. Get in into the collective, or actually point it out or dig it up so it’s not so buried. Do you understand what i mean?
Much of what we experience, though new to our lifetime THIS time around is something we have done time and time again. Someone told me that we get some of the horrors in our lives because not only can we handle them, we HAVE handled them in the past and we are here to show them how it’s done to get through it.
Have fun to night (everybody wang chung tonight)
mandara k
Participant[quote]mandara K, Congrats on the Chucks, you are sounding like quite the Cool One…all Goethe, Pink Floyd and the heady faashion sense!!
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What a sweet thing to say! Thank you Sidhecafe, I hope the grad school thing works out for you. Well, if not this yr there is always next ( we hope) meanwhile we will have a jolly old-time on this Saddy BB.
I’m sorry i haven’tbeen around much, but what are you studying? And where are you applying? So many wondrous schools in that area lived there for many years, in and around Boston.
mandara k
ParticipantThanks Headge and don’t let me rush you, school can be a tough road!
You don’t mind if i blab a little more, do you?
And LL, I’m only saying what i see as true. It was a bore to read the extremes of some reviews, it was crap or it was the next greatest thing to sliced bread. Nothing or no one is perfect including 6 and the Cylons; and the feeling is we will find this out in season 2.
I will lose my cookies if the imperious leader and that ship of light thing comes out and all everyone is rattling on about now is Pegasus and Commander Cain. Watch, how convenient, Adama is down, they find Pegasus and Commander Cain takes over but like Cain and Abel…. Cain and Adama don’t see eye to eye and Cain wants to go one way, Adama, from his sickie bed through Tigh want to go another. A Civil military war with the Colonials in the middle. That has always got me, war has for a long time been less than civil. The only thing that would interest me in this scenario is a underground movement. Zarek could lead this but secretly, and go ship to ship converting Colonists. Or a secret understanding btn Roslin and Zarek while the military duke it out for power.
Would Cain back Roslin or Adama? Would they go with the scrolls, or not? Will they chase their own tails across the galaxies or find a plan. Without a plan of life, isn’t that what we do, chase our own tail?
The Cylons must be laughing heartily at all of the Colonist’s shenanigans. Though there is talk that a device kept them communicating, how did Shelly G disappear? Is it all one mass illusion, a trick of the mind, a common dream of destruction when actually all is fine, like an EMP pulse, will Alice wake up from wonderland? No, that’s too incredible, but I’m smiling like a cheshire cat that got the cream.
They say that our lives are dreams within dreams, and that in the beginning there was mind. Just as man was a child thus the images and thoughts of children once were prominent, but one day you put the child’s thoughts away. There are times, and this may be strange to most, that as a collective essence of all man, that we too did this, we woke up from our child/animal state and became mind. A mind that yearned for more, that searched for “who Am I” where do i come from. it is the maturity of mind that keeps us linked. We all must grow together, and separately.
mandara k
ParticipantHot damn! I just bought my new Con shoes, which Con it will be i have no idea. My new loveys are my Chuck Taylor hightops but they are black and grey with peace in many languages. They are smoking!
SO, you want me to do any organizing for a table I’ve got THE comfortable run around shoes.
Back to read Goethe’s Faust, talk ’bout duality! It’s got kickin’ insights about humanity! And listening to “Comfortably Numb” by Pink Floyd ittakes me back to that Con with Jeff H and how his wife liked it. “There is no pain, you are receding, a distant ships’ smoke on the horizon, you are going coming through in waves, you lips moves but i can’t hear what your saying.” Marvelous, life is marvelous when you get rid of mind clutter.
mandara k
Participant*Spoilers*
Again, i was thinking about this “Adama is a Cylon-bit” in the dream sequence and like LL review i think Leoben proved to be right in a matter of speaking.
*spoilers*
A Cylon in physicality is a machine now made to look human, a Cylon in mind is a man like Adama or a militaristic look at the world. Funny, after reading the spoiler here, how they tested the mechanical part of Adama and disregarded the mind bit which played itself out at the end.The true line between machine and man is played out here, what makes a man, what makes a machine. We often here of a “war” machine”, i think Adama is this, and the children of this :machine” came back to take a swing at the parent. Do you think Adama will change through this? Will he be even more anti-Cylon, or will he change. He barely could control the anger with a dead Cylon.
What is the answer here? Was it only the human hybrid the Cylons wanted, or a race of them with humans their new gene pool? Adama needs some kamala root and Roslin needs to be weaned off hers and they can meet in the middle somewhere. it’s really scary to think as Tigh in the command of the military and Baltar running the government.
I’d revolt with the pilots, vipers or anything and anyone I’d could get my hands on and not with Zarek. If Lee could show me the law, the way of freedom of sppech and thought, I’d follow him. I’d be behind Roslin but though I have mystic runnung through my veins (and we ALL do) bottom line i don’t follow prophecies, I give them an ear and let them flow through but i go back to common sense and reason. My reaction to prophecies is thus, “huh, it was correct, interesting… what’s next.”
Balance, a balance of practical reason, common sense and the awareness of life and its qualities. it is said that those in power got there from meritorious work done not only in this life but in past lives including not telling a lie, but when finally gifted with the fruit of their good work they are swayed by the forces of greed and power to create evil, they say the light is snuffed out.
It is said that countries with good rulers have people that have not let the poisons of greed, anger and stupidity overtake their land, and not only are they at peace but their land is at peace. They are not two different lands one of peace one of strife, they are controlled by the collective mind of it’s people.
So if you want peace you should begin by making your own mind peaceful, then your home peaceful, your community peaceful, your state, your country. If something stands in your way to your own peace, it’s better to not blame others as we are wont to do but to root out the evil in your own mind and then see how it changes.
It is said that to be a regular person in this day and age is better than being a personage of import in the past to be free of the ties that bind to evil. Evil as in greed, corruption, attachment to things, currying favor, arrogance. I am so grateful i am free of this, yet because I am not I am considered inferior by many. No matter, absolute happiness is mine, not the relative kind that is fleeting and temporary.
Sorry OT but is it? Will the Colonists find peace? They think it is a geological place, like Earth. We can tell them different, can’t we? Peace is not a physical destination, you can’t relocate and find peace, your state will follow you wherever you go. How many of us go to a place we think is paradise like on a vacation but if we lived there it quickly becomes not so magical?
Sorry, about the thesis on peace! 😳
mandara k
ParticipantOh and Lexxlurker and Headgehog, I’ve read lots of reviews on 2-3 BSG BB before and i have to say you write some of the best ones out there. There isn’t the pandering to the TOS or the extra propaganda you get on the pro-TNS sites 🙄 they are funny, well though out, and personable. i love the reference to SW in The Hand of God and the comparison btn you and Baltar when working in the lab.
Thank you and like i said it is good to be here to be comfy again
mandara k
Participant“Let the games begin” * claps and rubs her her hands together in a Karate Kid movie move and poises her fingers over the keys.
Some peeps, some peeps never learn do they? 😆 If it’s not in front of their noses they don’t believe anything you say. I read other BB’s and it is this way now it was this way then and will always be with our kind. Funny, though they do not know they are puppets on a string then when it comes to they motion under the surface of things.
Yes, sometimes what can be seen is just what is there; it’s appearance. A cigar is a cigar. However, there are many other things that cannot be seen with the naked eye. And it is IMO very typical to resort to label something to understand it, and while labeling it, projecting emotions upon it. For example, Adama labels Leoben. Is this soo bad? Depends on the situation. The result was the same, Leoben ended up dead. Did he complete the mission which was sabotage, absolutely! Is he evil? Depends on which side of the fence you ride. if Leoben had nothing to exploit, then he would be evil but none of these characters are perfect. Truth and Lies,
so what is true….
There was a war 40 yrs before, the Cylons lost
The Cylons nuked the 12 planets.
The remainder of the Colonists are fleeing and trying to find Earth.
The Cylons look humanWhat is assumed true
that Cylons are not lifeforms but machines
their only purpose is to destroy the rest of humanity (nope)
they are evil, and manipulate and lie.Ah but Adama lied about Earth
Socinus lied about the hatch door
Roslin lied to LeobenWhy aren’t they evil? Accused of trying to manipulate, mislead, and separate. Why is separating the ships for a nuke search more dangerous than looking for Starbuck? Oh, but one involves a “Cylon” and one a human.
Why is talking about “God” and a belief system that belongs to a Cylon more dangerous than talking about a pantheon of gods? Because the former is radically opposed (but not really) to prevalent thinking.
it all rests where you are in relation to the situation. If you could do what Leoben said he could do, which is to float above it all, and not be invested in one way or the other, who would look more human to you, the Cylons or the Colonials. And human not in physicality but in the higher elements of understanding, intelligence, mercy, justice?
I suppose you could label me as a Cylon too at times and at times human because at times I feel emotional and angry and scared, very strong emotions, and we react many times through these emotions, but if given time we transcend them and got to a Roslin state, which to me is brilliant. You take the line as far as it will go and you cut your losses and move on.
You cannot be anything you do not allow yourself to be. May be Adama should have told Starbuck this instead of the “this is a tricky Cylon” routine. I’ve been called some awful things in my life and I react like most humans, with anger, with hurt… but then I step back and say to myself….”Is it true? Do i believe it?” I run it through a couple of times, look at it from their angle… what my words and actions may have conveyed to them. Then i either accept or reject it and if they were wrong, I forgive them because they don’t know me. they have issues going on, they are frightened, or angry or jealous of me, or projecting, and I move on.
Just my spiel.
mandara k
Participant😕
mandara k
ParticipantUmm… aren’t you on the wrong forum, LEXX is down the page. Or a book to push? 😈 🙄
mandara k
ParticipantMommy make the bad man go away! Koresh, nut case. I mean i believe in the divineness of everything and it’s ultimate darknees the flip side; a dualism that must exist. And didn’t Leoben say in the ep, “Flesh and Bone” “To look upon God’s face is madness, or some shit like that. WE look at God’s face everyday. madness is a Koresh who can get a taste of a little more but can’t handle it. he had the Jerusulem fever they say.
Anyone that advocates using force and violence, well that’s not the way let’s say. To walk the line is always difficult, but we must try.
mandara k
ParticipantRight now I’m debating attending… lots goings on right now, but if I could convince some to help I say a Saddy table as opposed to a specifically LEXX table. A hodgepodge of all the obsessions I mean shows listed here, with added Sad stuff. The draw of all the shows the site talks about would be the bump for it. I’ve got BSG stuff, lots of LEXX stuff and two seasons of The Prisoner. We have a little time, we could whip something up if that’s okay? That way we have a place to gather, and advertise the site AND bring in lots of sci-fi junkies. We have no track so we can be free to track to anything and especially the costume watching which is the ultimate best part, and um this year, no Romulan Ale for me!
Any one willing to work on this angle?
mandara k
ParticipantI’m glad I wasn’t going nuts, It did really suck and from the line-up skiffy is offering, yeesh, we’re in sci-fi hell in the States. I say Fox should have a sci-fi evening and put on their best movies, then sci-fi might listen.
mandara k
ParticipantHmmmm…. the Borgia’s, the family that poisons together stays together. LEXX was out there, but the Borgia’s 😆
It was good of them to chat with ya, though and thanks Frey!
Have a good holiday all.
mandara k
ParticipantYes, Happy Holidays to all, just popping in to say that. May be I’ll post in the new year when the States get Moore’s BSG, meanwhile I’m blabbing over there about the spoilers of eps. You guys do good work here, but you knew that.
So, did anyone catch the EArthsea thang. I was totally underwhelmed.
My best to you and yours, and when in someone putting up the Saddies XXX -tree, hmm?
mK
mandara k
ParticipantI’m sorry i haven’t been around much here, watching the fur fly over there has been diverting.
You HH and LL, good job on this older site. A lot of stuff be going on… now it’s a waiting game to see how the ratings will be. What’s annoying is the sniveling and the groveling that can take place if any of the “actors” are there. you KNOW how i hate that.
I’m a believer in the whole package, great f/x, great story, believable characters… The mini was good, the DVD comes out at the end of December…. but far from resting on laurels, they should come out blazing… it’s been a long long wait. SO it premieres on Sky One on October 18th I think. I wonder if they are promoting the heck out of it. I agree, Sci-FI will beat the heck out of it before it airs here. They are tedious.
I say, give it a little push and see if it goes, underplay it. Show the mini again, but don’t beat it to death. That’s what turned me off the other good shows, watch the trailers you can see the whole ep.
mandara k
ParticipantI have A Saddie Luuunch Box, I have a Saddie Luunch box. Nyaa nyaa nyaa nyaa nyaa nyaa!
Thanks Frey you made my day when iI saw it there. I had to get the obsession t-shirt for DC so hopefully they both get here before I go then i can wear the shirt!
Thank you very very much!
mandara k
ParticipantYup, late night posting! Let’s try it again.
Arriving On Saturday at 1pm; In line for an aeon for a badge. Leaving early Tuesday morning. I would prefer very cheap but somewhere close to a Marta station so I don’t have to take cabs back and forth. If on site; i cannot afford a hundred or more bucks a night; that’s a little steep. more $40-75.00 a night.
Thank you in advance!
mandara k
ParticipantYou’d lend me your famous cart? Really? Oh thank you; can i use it for the autograph line, too?
Yeah, i have to work Friday night until 11pm so i fly out 6:30am on Sat. and get in at 1pm. i may just go right to the con with luggage to get that badge over and done with and then if someone takes pity on me I can meet them there with the room stuff.
I’m 40, will take smoking or non; I can’t sleep with a TV on or many lights. I usually sleep late and it takes me an hour to get up and move around but then I’m good to go. I don’t think i snore but how would i know? I am arriving Saturday afternoon and leaving Tuesday morning; looking for the cheapest and closest place to the Con and then may be I’ll stay elsewhere on Mon. night.
Where is the booth exactly and are we all going out to dinner on Sat. night or something?
Help me out pwetty pwease and thank you!
mandara k
ParticipantWell, d’uh I answered my own question; follow the group of gaggling girls to HDS. What was i thinking? Well, it’s the closest I’ll ever stand to Captain Sparrow so why not? 😉
mandara k
ParticipantOkay, I did it,. I took the first step of buying a plane ticket; I’ll be there. I have no hotel of now but I’ll be there. Yeesh, I had to support Sad’s even if my posting is scattered. SO I arrive 1pm on Saturday then that horrific line so I’ll see you guys about 2am! No, Who knows how long that will be especially on Saturday!
This year i am in desperate straits for a roommate; no more “hood hotel like last year where the hookers turned tricks. Help me!!!!!
Thanks, and where are we gathering so I can find you?
mk
mandara k
ParticipantIs that the movie with Yul B. as the cowboy? NOOOO! You can’t replace Yul Brynner! Stop stop stop remake hell, we are in remake hell! 😥
mandara k
ParticipantHey Frey girl! How are ya sweets? I bet you are busy as a bee doing the DC shuffle. Nope just bob bob bobbing around. Sad’s got a woodie; well yeesh; did know sadgeezers could experience that kind of sensation anymore! 😯 😆 let me know how the Dragon’s rock this year. A back injury and other plans divert me away from Atlanta this year. I’ll be in St. Paul (St. Paul? you make him a professor what’s next beautification I suppose; well, duh that would be =kicking it and who’d want that?) Doing a Ren-Fest up in the Twin Cities, etc…
IM when you get a chance and let me know the newsies.
mk
mandara k
ParticipantHey now, there can be no false modesty on this one; Sad’s will always have a spot on my sci-fi heart; it’s time to get a little recognition for all you’ve done AND to all the cool peeps that are here.
Hip hip hooray for Sad, his site and all you sadgeezer and gezzerettes!
Do they send you some plywood or something now? Hold out for the wood with little faces on it! 😉
mandara k
ParticipantHeeeee! Of course not; it’s the power is very subtle but still around.
I just watched The Last Samurai and being In BSG kinda (I’m walking away from that too) I’m thinking a Cylon Samurai. Then there should be Cylon Ninja.
mandara k
Participant😥 😥 👿 NONONONO! Please please save us the mundane.
I turn on the TV and see the same theme but a different show title. When will it end?
mandara k
ParticipantIt’s Harry Potter meets Star Wars! AHHHHHH! Leave them be! I’m really beginning to think that Hollywood is an old whore that can’t perform anything well but still wants to get paid for it. 😯 Everything that had a hint of making money is 2, 3, or 4 of an original.
Where has creativity gone? 😥
mandara k
ParticipantThis HAS to be a joke, right? Where did you get your info? They wouldn’t dare do that; I would then say there is a new low that Hollywood is sinking to. Originality is really, REALLY dead. “It’s dead, Jim.”
Please say it’s just a rumor and that’s all!
😥
mandara k
ParticipantYeah, well I’ve haven’t been around for ages. Can you believe it; I’m modding a fan-fic art forum on an obscure board and i like it much better! having fun just being me without the little personality clashes and fits on line. It’s peaceful, quiet and we say whatever the heck we want within 13 or under. I get to put my crappy stories up and give my self a pat on the back for them! 😆
It’s slow now, but like the growing pains on most new boards; it takes time to create a base of some type; and already in a hostile enviroment anyway. We are the peace-keeping fun board!
I hope lexx.com goes up again soon for you. i pop in once in a while to read; but very few new questions are asked; the posts are hundreds of replies long! With all that talent can’t you guys dig up something to say? Go obscure if you have to but let’s light some fires and howl at the moon!
So have fun at DC2004 BTW! I think I saw my last one of those.
Light some fires under some rears, people and shake a tush!
Peace to all!
mK
mandara k
ParticipantI have some RL that keeps me from doing a lot right now; and well I had to make some choices about time management.
I’ll always post where you are Loggie 🙄 😉
mandara k
ParticipantLogan I take horrible photographs so I’m not even going there. I do see a resemblence in your sweetie pie. She looks so intelligent; like she’s ready to debate you on astro-physics.
Carry on!
mandara k
ParticipantAll I say is I hope all of LEXX find what they want….
Cryptic and obscure,,,,, that’s fine with me, Lizard…. if you don’t mind…… I’m very happy to remain that way; I’ve dropped almost all of LEXX from my life except my enjoyment of the show and my great respect for some of the peeps who were involved and the block of others. As I am insignificant to them, they are insignificant to me; time will be judge and jury of the final outcome.
mandara k
ParticipantThat’s BIZZARE! She always kinda reminded me of Andrea Martin; isn’t she of SCTV fame. The same kinda outgoing, kookieness (in a good way mind you) Everytime I watched Ms. Dubin I wondered if they were related.
Good for her; as long as they of LEXX are happy I am content (and willing to keep my mouth permanently zipped) 😛
mandara k
Participant‘Sundown ” by Gordon Lightfoot….. An oldie but a goodie esp. the line that states
Sometimes i think it’s a sin when i feel like when I’m winning when I’m losing again.
and “Sometimes I think it’s a shame when get feeling better when i’m feeling no pain.” The voice and the geetar; man oh man…. 😉And In My House by The Mary Jane Girls 😯
mandara k
ParticipantWunderfull! That news is great news!
BTW My own very own computer is making a little test runsky; I christened it Grendel; because I looking forward to fighting and taming it.
Toodles; I’m off to put him through the paces!
Keep the GOOD news coming!
mandara k
ParticipantThat is so tragic…… I remember him in many sci-fi excursions including The Terminator as the police commissioner “That couch is very comfortable.” I remember him more now for the A&E show narration of “City Confidential”. Something very smooth about his voice.
RIP sir; though I did not know thee.
mandara k
ParticipantWAAAAAAAA!!! I want a Sadgeezer lunch box! What happened? It kinda a pushed out of the way……. I’d like a lunch box before I’m a real’ Sadgeezer and don’t have a job to take a lunch box to because I would be too old to work.
Hello (echo) HELLO! Is anybody in here? “Thump” I know you are in here…. Where are you?
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