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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
Now there’s a very [b]good[/b] chance that the Japanese could [b]copy[/b] [i]Lexx[/i] and twist it around to suit their bubble-gum Tenchi-tentacle tastes. And don’t forget about shame. There’s always an over-abundance of shame that all characters must deal with. Shame inserted into [i]Lexx[/i]? Uh-uh, no way. It would warp the tone of the story.
[i]How’s your itch?
Gettin’ scratched.
Mojo?
Workin’.
Whole lotta shakin’?
Big time bakin’.
Easy peasy?
Japanesey.
Righteous, lick it up![/i]
Sorry. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Flamegrape:
BTW, I really hate [i]DragonballZ[/i]. A show that is all about a pointless ****ing contest is completely worthless. *RETCH*
I’ve seen some [i]Dragonball[/i] (my brother is quite possibly more devoted to that show than I am to [i]Lexx[/i]). It’s freaky. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] That show makes [i]Lexx[/i] look normal!
I didn’t know Joss Whedon wrote [i]Buffy[/i]. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] I just knew about [i]Alien: Resurrection[/i]. I looked him up on the Internet Movie Database, and that said his grand[b]father[/b] wrote for [i]Leave it to Beaver[/i] and [i]The Donna Reed Show[/i]. That could refer to John Whedon (he wrote for [i]The Andy Griffith Show[/i] and [i]The Dick Van Dyke Show[/i], but I’m uncertain of a [i]Beaver[/i] connection). That’s all I know. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
SadGeezer-I didn’t know Joss Whedon wrote for [i]Buffy[/i]. I just knew him as the writer of [i]Alien: Resurrection[/i]. And of course I didn’t know about the grandmother connection.
Mary Beth-[i]Leave it to Beaver[/i] takes place in the town of Mayfield in an indeterminate state (though some fans claim it was Ohio based on sketchy evidence given in certain episodes).
As tempting as it is to speculate on Mantrid’s reincarnation, he almost certainly will not be reappearing. Dieter Laser was apparently working on something else when filming was being done on the fourth season.
You’ve got me. I figured Tony Dow directed those things you mentioned, but I checked his credits and neither was on there. I love [i]Leave it to Beaver[/i], but I don’t know anything about those other shows. To my knowledge neither Rene Auberjanois nor Armin Shimmerman was a guest star on [i]Beaver[/i], but I’m not sure. I’ll do some more probing.
Just to clarify, I didn’t really dislike [i]Babylon 5: Legend of the Rangers[/i]. It was adequate in terms of made-for-T.V. sci-fi, I just expect more from [i]Babylon 5[/i].
And that joke opportunity was too good to pass up.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
However we have unlocked secret documents from the Clustergate hotel the says that he will not put them down humanely, put instead he himself will engage in cephalophagy (brain eating), quite a cruel way to die if you ask us.
“Cephalophagy” means “head-eating.” I believe the correct term would be [i]en[/i]cephalophagy.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Hedgehog Political Party
Would that be the sensible candidate, or the silly candidate? [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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[b]Spiny Norman[/b] [i]n.[/i]: A giant hedgehog reportedly ranging from between twelve feet to eight hundred yards long
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Originally posted by Slopmaster:
Also what was all that blue gasious stuff?
The plot trying to escape.
Last night I saw [i]Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers[/i] ([i]To Live and Die in Starlight[/i]), and I was not impressed.
There is no way it could be enjoyed by anyone who has not followed [i]Babylon 5[/i]. They never explain what a Ranger is, or who the One is. We know this, but omitting those explanations limit their audience to people like us who are familiar with the universe.
Captain Martel was well-developed, but he seems a little similar to Matthew Gideon. The new alien menace is just a rehash of the Shadows. Of course the Drazi character is big and dumb, the traitor was the ugliest looking alien, and the bad guys are dressed all in black and you can’t see their faces (“looks like the new Divine Shadow host is a Vorlon”).
There also seemed to be inconsistencies. They had a changeling net but called it a holosuit, and they referred to a parallel universe beyond hyperspace but never called it Thirdspace. And could someone explain to me why the jump points look different? For the entire run of [i]Babylon 5[/i] and [i]Crusade[/i] they were the same, but now they look like the beginning credits of [i]Doctor Who[/i]. Am I missing something?
G’Kar’s appearance seemed tacked on. I know they needed someone from the first series to launch this one, but wouldn’t Sheridan or Lennier be more logical? G’Kar just got annoying after a while. And that subplot with the telepathic echo of the dead crew didn’t work for me at all.
All in all, [i]Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers[/i] was the weakest of all the [i]Babylon 5[/i] T.V. movies, and I only hope the series that follows will be better than this unpromising lead.
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I am Anla’Shok.
I can no more betray the Anla’Shok than my fingers can betray my hand.I think of Vorlons as sporocystean entities. They are semi-corporeal, they have physical cell structure, but it is suspended in concentrated energy, so their forms are more transient than ours. Their true form is cephalopoid, but they can appear to be something else by telepathically manipulating the vision centers of younger races’ brains. It was said that Vorlons breathed a combination of methane and hydrogen sulfide, but they seem to do fine in human atmospheres, as well as the vacuum of space.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
[i]Quantum Leap[/i]’s last episode was when Sam jumped into himself on his true birthday. He was in a bar outside of Pittsburgh where he met G-d(?). This guy explained to Sam that Sam controls his leaping and not him. He suggeted to Sam that he leap home and take a break before he undertakes some more leaps. Indicating that
the leaps will get much harder. Sam declines and continues leaping. He never returns home, instead righting what once went wrong for the rest of his days. The last leap we saw of him was him leaping into himself, and this time telling Al’s first wife that Al is in a POW camp and to wait for him to return. Al and his orginal wife lived happily ever ater. It ended on a downer only because everyone expected him to leap home.
In the pilot/movie [i]Quantum Leap: Genesis[/i] a mysterious force caused Sam to leap before he was scheduled to, and he gets lost in the time stream and loses his memory. Al saw it, it was a light that appeared over the facility, looking like sheet lightning. In the final episode, [i]Mirror Image[/i], Sam meets a representitive of this force, occupying a human body like him. We’re never told exactly what this force is, but I’ve always figured it was aliens. That’s the most likely possibility from what we’re shown in [i]Genesis[/i], [i]Star Light, Star Bright[/i], and [i]Mirror Image[/i].
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I never managed to see the fianle of Sliders, but from what I’ve read it wasn’t a real ending. During filming they weren’t sure if there was going to be a sixth season so they made an “either way” episode. The sliders went to a planet where there was a guys who viewed all their slides and made a hit tv show out of it. There was much celebration when the sliders arrived on that world, obviously. The voyer guy warned the sliders that if they jumped again that they would perish. I don’t know how it ends though. I assume they jumped.
In the final episode of [i]Sliders[/i], [i]The Seer[/i], the sliders are prevented from sliding into the world that would cause their death by a piece of Kromagg equipment. Everyone is trapped on that world, except Rembrandt, who slides to his home (infested with Kromaggs, of course) alone. There is a [i]Sliders[/i] movie in production.
Back on the [i]X-Files[/i] topic, the show’s really been going downhill since the first season. They could never top that pilot episode. It had stagnated by the time they introduced a new story arc (Mulder’s disappearance), which revived it somewhat, like the movie had before. But now it’s suddenly plummeted to a new low.
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After seeing a few episodes of this season, I think it’s time they ended it. They should have ended it at the end of [i]last[/i] season. The last few episodes of season 8 were really good, they should have gone out with a bang and resolved things in the movie(s), rather than bother with a ninth season.
There’s been a sharp decline. Not just the absence of Mulder (there were some good episodes last season without him), but the writing seems to have slipped as well, even below season 7 level. I’m a loyal fan, I’ve been with [i]The X-Files[/i] since the beginning, but I think it’s time to pull the plug.
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THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
[i]Lex Scripta[/i]-written law
[i]Lex Terræ[/i]-the law of the land
[i]Lex Talionis[/i]-law of retaliation
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Whats the name of the song Marcus was singing to Franklin at the end of Attonement? It goes like this “I am the very model of …. animal vegtable and mineral…
The song is “(I am) The Very Model of a Modern Major General” from [i]The Pirates of Penzance[/i] by Gilbert and Sullivan.
The thing I like about [i]791[/i] is that it starts out like it’s another cheesy [i]Alien[/i] wannabe (you know the type, they’re all over the Sci-Fi channel), then develops into something very different and original.
The setup is a lot like [i]Alien[/i]. We have a planetoid that looks quite like LV-426 and a dark derelict ship. The ship is sort of like part biomechanoid derelict and part [i]Nostromo[/i]. The lighting is exactly like in [i]Alien[/i], and many [i]791[/i] scenes have clear parallels in [i]Alien[/i]. The holding units look almost exactly like the ovimorphs only bigger, like in the earlier Giger designs. The 791 cyborg body in the pilot’s seat is like the biomechanoid pilot. The spacesuits used in the episode also resemble those in the movie.
But it quickly diverges considerably in plot. There’s nothing on the planet. The three threats are 791, Desh, and Lyekka. It’s all internal things, there is no external threat. Desh has no parallel that I can see in [i]Alien[/i]. Lyekka doesn’t either (although her morphing reminds me of a non-[i]Aliens[/i] James Cameron movie or two). Then we have the cyborg. It’s probably inspired by Ash, plus the obvious plot possibility of 790 getting a body (with a catch). The whole thing about a homicidal maniac’s consciousness remaining in his body reminds me of [i]Body Parts[/i], a horror movie I’ve never seen but I hear is really something. But there’s no real [i]Alien[/i] parallel there. 791 is like the opposite of the alien, and very little like the cold calculating demeanor of Ash. The final similarity is in blowing the antagonist out the air lock.
There’s nothing like the alien, and we are left without any parasitism, bug-eyed monsters, or any of the other trademarks of [i]Alien[/i] ripoffs.
I can only speak as a typical teenage American male of standard sexuality, but I think [i]Lexx[/i] is appealing because it is an imaginative space adventure series, like [i]Star Trek: The Next Generation[/i] or [i]Doctor Who[/i]. I starting watching [i]Lexx[/i] when I was 16, and I am 18 now.
I don’t think the makers would bother taking such a small part of the general populus into consideration.
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Originally posted by Mudlock:
BTW to settle the other half of that arguement can anyone tell me what race Darth Maul is?
Darth Maul is an Iridonian Zabrak, same as Eeth Koth.
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Originally posted by :
thanks Tara – how do you know about Jeff Pustil reappearing in the survivor takeoff? sounds like your not a casual viewer of television if you have/seek out advance knowledge.
[i]Xevivor[/i] has aired in the U.S. Some lucky viewers in Britain (I think) have already seen up to [i]769[/i].
Season four’s much better than season three, but not at the level of the first two seasons. The overall ethos seems to have changed, and there has been one really off episode, but I wouldn’t say the new season is lousy.
Okay, I figured out that 59% of the major posters on the SadBoard (not just the [i]Lexx[/i] forum) are female. The Donovan figure would seem fairly accurate.
I suppose a 12-year-old could be mature enough to handle [i]Lexx[/i]. I know my parents wouldn’t have let me watch [i]Lexx[/i] when I was 12. I wasn’t even allowed to watch [i]Doctor Who[/i] when I was that age.
I dream that the Supreme Beans have selected me to write the script for the finale of [i]Lexx[/i]’s fifth season. An over-enthusiastic Paul Donovan is explaining what he wants for the episode. “It’s got to be big! It’s got to be an action-packed thrill ride that will keep devoted fans and casual viewers alike glued to the screen. It’s got to be familiar, but with things that haven never been done on the show before.” He’s looking crazy and dishevelled, and is waving a cup of coffee and a donut around as he talks to me. “If you want to kill one of the characters off, like if you think it’s time for Kai to finally die, go for it. It’s your choice. This is your episode. But the most important thing is it’s got to be big. You gotta make it exciting all the way through so viewers will still by hyped when season six rolls around.” I promise I won’t let him down.
The episode I write is titled “The Realm of Darkness,” but that has nothing to do with the plot. It has the Lexx come upon an unusual planet. It seems to be all water, but Stan brings the Lexx closer, so it’s hovering just a couple hundred feet above the surface. They spot a small island, and Stan parks the Lexx in the atmosphere and goes down to investigate in the only moth (all of the other moths were destroyed in a previous season five episode). He says he’ll only be gone for a little while. But in his absence, things start going wrong on the ship. The Lexx was parked too close to the planet, and the gravity is tearing it apart. No one but Stan can move the Lexx. The planet’s forces are also collapsing the Lexx’s magnetic field (whatever that means), which is preventing the squalkers from working and causing Kai to malfunction. Hours go by, with no sign of Stan. Cut to Stan on the island. He’s having a great time. The island is a sunny beach with palm trees and ruins. It is littered with interesting junk, and Stan is exploring and collecting, oblivious to his crewmates’ plight, and has lost track of time. Back on the Lexx things are near breaking point. Pieces are falling off the ship, holes are appearing in the hull, jets of white-hot plasma are appearing randomly, Xev is near-hysterical, and no one can think of how to contact Stan. A huge hole is torn in the Lexx’s left “eye,” and Kai falls out. He catches himself by clamping his brace onto a hanging beam, but it is slipping. Xev tries frantically to get to it and pull him up, but she is too late. Kai falls, and at that same time a huge plasma emission comes from inside the Lexx and vaporizes him. Stan notices the explosion, and rushes to his moth with handfuls of junk. The moth is seen flying up toward the disintegrating Lexx as the episode ends.
The production staff of [i]Lexx[/i] is all very pleased with my script, but I have a lingering feeling that I should have done something different with the story. Finally, I think about how I would have thought of it if I was just a normal fan like I used to be and saw it on T.V. I realize I would have been dissatisfied with the ending. I decided there was much more to be explored with Kai’s character, and it was a bad move to kill him off. Production on the episode has almost finished when I decide to rewrite the ending. The advertising on the Sci-Fi channel has already said that one of the main characters will not survive the episode, and I don’t want to disappoint fans, so I kill off Lyekka. I add a subplot of her awakening hungry, with no access to food because of the lack of moths, so she has no choice but to eat the crew. Stan is down on the planet, and Kai is inedible, so she turns on Xev. Xev is viscous enough to fight her off. We bring in Louise Wischermann to film the new scenes and alternate ending. Lyekka’s look this season is hot pink hair and a costume like Bunny’s in Gametown.
I am watching the final cut of the episode. The director has gone for an artsy sort of film noir look, so the scenes in the Lexx are dark with ill-defined colors and weird camera angles, and it’s often hard to figure out what’s going on. In contrast, the scenes with Stan on the island are bright and crystal-clear. I wonder what the director’s problem is. The ending deviates somewhat from my script. The new ending diverges from the old just after the Lexx’s eye splits open. Desperately hungry, Lyekka finds a robot head (790?) skittering around on a small insect-like body near the edge of the pit formed by the Lexx’s split eye. She tries frantically to get inside the casing to the eat the brain cube inside. This is happening simultaneously with the Kai and Xev scene. In this version, Kai does fall, just seconds before an explosion shakes the ship. That sends Lyekka over the edge. The plasma bursts out, but by that time Kai has fallen beyond its range. It hits Lyekka, who disappears in a flash of pink-colored light. Kai “survives” the fall to the island, and says to Stan “I suggest you return to the Lexx immediately.” The episode ends with a shot of Xev holding 790 looking out of the hole in the Lexx.
I have made notes of the problems with the ending, and am about to have a word with the director who altered my great story. On my way to his office I am stopped by another member of the [i]Lexx[/i] staff. He says “That episode was somethin’ else!” I thank him for the compliment, and ask “How’s Louise Wischermann? I hope she’s not too upset that I killed her character off.” He says “I don’t know. Nobody’s seen her since the blue screen filming. She just sort of disappeared.” My last words in the dream are something along the lines of “Oh. If you do see her, tell her she looked cute biting 790.” And that’s the end of the part of the dream that I can remember.
[b]Additional:[/b]
-Try to watch it with the Freudian slips. Girls don’t take kindly to being called “Lyekka.”
I have an introducing-[i]Lexx[/i]-to-outsider story to share. In the speech & debate team I was on in high school we’re supposed to find short scripted dialogs for interpretive events (dramatic, humorous, and duo interpretation) I found an online transcript of [i]I Worship His Shadow[/i], so I submitted part of it (His Shadow’s discussion of the nature of time with his bridge crew) to my speech coach last year for a possible dramatic interpretation piece. He rejected it as a D.I. piece, not because it was too weird, but because he considered it to be a [b]humorous[/b] piece. [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] He said I could use it for H.I. but not D.I. How anything that ends with one of the characters saying “I worship His Divine Shadow” and shooting themself can be considered humorous is beyond me.
Anyway, instead me and my friend did a scene from the [i]Red Dwarf[/i] episode [i]Marooned[/i] for duo at the tournament. It was a hit, and since I was so good as Rimmer I was asked to play him again in a scene from [i]Cassandra[/i]. I politely declined.
But now I’ve gotten away from not just this thread but this forum as well. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
“It is interesting that people try to find meaningful patterns in things that are essentially random. I have noticed that the images they perceive sometimes suggest what they are thinking about at that particular moment. Besides, it is clearly a bunny rabbit” -Data, when he and Guinan were looking at nebula FGC147.
Aleck-Since you seem to have some knowledge of psychology, you may be familiar with the phenomenon of [i]pareidolia[/i] (the Rorschach effect). That is, the interpretation of meaning in meaningless patterns (visual or auditory), stemming from the mind of the viewer trying to make sense of things. This is what causes people to see images like faces in things like inkblots, clouds, trees, the World Trade Center wreckage, and photographs of Mars. And I think this applies in this case. Just because you see a naughty shape in a watering can in [i]Garden[/i] (or hear warnings of a coming race war in “Helter-Skelter” by the Beatles) doesn’t mean the makers put it there intentionally.
Maybe the watering can is a phallic symbol, but I doubt it. It’s a watering can. It’s an artsy, maybe abstract expressionist watering can, but a watering can nonetheless). You can’t say any cylindrical form in a T.V. show or movie is an intentional phallic symbol. Obelisks, lightsabers, [i]Babylon 5[/i]…you’ve got to draw the line somewhere. SadGeezer (or NewKate, more likely) just saw the watering can and thought it might be that kind of symbol. So that was implied on the website so other people could read it, look back at the show, and think “oh yeah, I see it now.” Pareidolia plus the power of suggestion.
And yes, I [i]know[/i] that under certain circumstances flowers can symbolize personal female organs (flowers are essentially the sexual organs of plants). I’m not naïve.
I will present you with [i]my[/i] interpretation of [i]Garden[/i] (which you will, no doubt contradict at every point).
The Garden is like a return to childhood. The gardeners live a simple, sheltered lives with next to no knowledge of what goes on the outside world. Emotionally they are like children. They are only concerned with being happy, and don’t understand the complex issues of events outside of the Garden.
Their world is disrupted by the arrival of the moth containing Stan, Xev, and Kai. To them, the Garden is a refuge from the stress and conflict that usually fill their lives, but their (especially Stan’s) presence has a detrimental effect on the locals. They are unable to leave their troubles at the gates of Garden City, and introduce alien concepts to the Garden. Stan is a completely alien life form. He is the antithesis of the gardeners, his lustful restlessness contrasting their innocent and static lives. If Lyekka is a weed (as in my earlier simile), then Stan is a pest nibbling at the leaves of the plants. He tries to seduce the gardeners. He attempts to corrupt their childlike innocence with his “adult” thoughts. In his mind they’re past due to mature (he sees them as ripe and ready for plucking, to borrow a line from 790’s poetry), but the lives of Water Dwellers are not progressive. The new gardener, which had apparently just been created (unless I am mistaken, the “waking up” Fifi referred to is the Water equivalent of birth) was already fully grown by living people standards. It would seem the gardeners are born and die in a form that is physically adult but mentally analogous to young children. But Stan can’t make them “grow up.” They don’t know about sex, so and all he does is confuse them.
Then he wants them to grow Lyekka. The gardeners, just wanting to make him happy, oblige. Stan failed to consider the consequences of introducing Lyekka to the Garden. She eats the gardeners. It is then that we learn that the gardeners are not completely impervious emotionally, because they show fear at having their lives ended (no one on Water seems to realize that they will return to the planet after “death”). Then, to top all that came before, the presence of the Lexx crew attracts the attention of Prince, and the Fire Dwellers attack Garden City.
As I see it, [i]Garden[/i] is the story of a simple, childlike paradise disrupted by the thoughts and conflicts of the adult world.
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Originally posted by Micromary:
First I’d have to refer you to any good book on human anatomy, specifically human FEMALE anatomy. Then you’d need to go back and take a VERY close look at the centers of some of those flowers. There’s a remarkable resemblance…..
Oh, so you’re saying the flowers look like female parts. I find it unlikely that it was intentional (if such resemblance really exists). I don’t have a picture of flowers in [i]Garden[/i] to examine, but I do have a picture of the watering can to evaluate your claims (if this works…):
[img]http://www.sadgeezer.com/lexx/lexx3-09f.jpg[/img]
I think you’re seeing things that aren’t there. It’s a watering can. It doesn’t look a sexual organ, it looks like a watering can. That’s all it is. Nothing more, nothing less. And I think your perceiving it as a phallic symbol reveals more about your personal psychology than the intentions of the makers of the show.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Yea Lexx fandom is mostly female. About 2/3 to 80% female. As for ages, it’s more middle aged then the 18-25 crowd.
That’s surprising. I assumed it was mostly teenage males who were into [i]Lexx[/i]. Then again, I’m unsure of the age of most of the people here and the sex of a few. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
Now, Universal has brought us quite a few quality sci-fi movies in the last few years. [i]Jurassic Park, Species, The Relic, Mimic, The Island of Dr. Moreau, and Virus[/i], to name a few.
I read this book a couple months ago that had a list of names that, when given to fictional characters, almost invariably means that they’re bad. Judas was one of them.
In case anyone cares, Judas is from Ioudas, which is the Greek form of the Y’hudhah, which simply means “Jew.”
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Originally posted by Micromary:
But if you believe Fire is Hell, then Hogtown HAS to be a place of punishment. If it is a place of eternal punishment, then their punishment is never being able to achieve their goal, as Headgehog and Flamegrape have stated. If it IS Purgatory, then the punishment would end once they come to realize the futility of what they’re doing and change their behavior.
I wasn’t doubting that it was punishment, I was just saying that I don’t understand how it would be. [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] Perhaps the scene was written before Heaven and Hell were factors, and was transferred to Fire later. A lot of things in season three don’t seem consistent with Water and Fire being Heaven and Hell. This I attribute to attempts to confuse viewers and poor writing.
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Hardly perfect and happy when, again, there’s a warning gong on Garden and Prince’s balloons attack the city. We saw Lyekka die on camera, no doubt the gardeners were killed, too.
That’s because if Garden City wasn’t invaded by dangerous elements (Lyekka, Prince) then the episodes taking place in it would be (even more) boring. Utopian fiction is boring unless there’s a drop of evil in the plot to generate conflict. More poor writing from season three. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Guess my “naughty nuns” joke did go over very well, but I was referring to the fact that the only sex on Garden is plant sex. The gardeners seem a bit naïve about human sexual intercourse and oblivious to the phallic and labial symbols all over the place.
Not the most unfunny joke on the board. I, after all, am a member. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] But seriously, folks, Garden City seems like (near-)perfect bliss, and I can’t conceive of it to be any sort of punishment. I, for one, would love to stay in there (if only for a little while). Let’s face it, Garden City is the best place we’ve ever seen in [i]Lexx[/i]. The lack of sex just seems logical. It is, after all, Heaven. I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you say there are phallic symbols in the Garden (and what does “labial symbol” mean? I’m unfamiliar with your lingo). Whatever you’re talking about, I seem to be oblivious to it as well. [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
His Divine Shadow, for all the reasons I’ve said before. Prince is too plain and one-dimensional to be a good villain.
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Originally posted by Squish-ums:
Hey, Hey, Hey, we are really moving up the ranks, whose next?, Lex, maybe even Paul…well the way it’s going FX, I wouldn’t to surprised if you managed to wrangle a chat with…God!!!
No, she’d have to work her way up through Chris Carter, John Nathan-Turner, Rick Berman, Brian Froud, and George Lucas. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Wadda COOL thought!It’s a great idea Dalek and just what I’ve been waiting for after a similar suggestion from thefrey a couple of weeks ago.
How about I set up a forum to do exactly that? It would be a mini website with discussions on aspects of scripts, archives, chapters
You don’t have to go nuts. This was just an idea for a topic. I got to thinking what kind of episode I would write (while awake) if I was hired as a scriptwriter. Then I wondered what other fans would do if given that opportunity. I doubt it could generate enough interest to justify a whole forum.
But really, I am curious as to what others here would do if given the God-like power of creating an episode in the [i]Lexx[/i] universe, and would appreciate responses. I like to get inside the heads of other fans…okay, that sounded creepy, but you know what I mean. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Hypatia:
I actually liked Xev’s hair in S2 best.
Oh, and Lyekka’s hair was pink. It was a weird dream. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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I don’t think anyone really knows for sure how season four will end. I was working off the assumption that the (hypothetical) fifth season would follow the same formula as seasons one and two.
I thought it would be an interesting topic, at least. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
By the way, if my dream was some sort of premonition of things to come, then season five will see the Lexx crew wandering through space looking for good planets. Something will destroy all but one of the Lexx’s moths. Lyekka will return and become a semiregular again, 790 (or some other robot head, I’m not sure) will have a small insect-like body instead of that chariot, Xev’s hair will revert to its season two form, and Stan will act like an idiot. In the spirit of prophecy, I feel an oblogation to tell you these things, in case my dream really was a vision of the future and not a nonsensical amalgamation of elements bouncing around in my head. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Micromary:
First of all, I think everyone is wrong in trying to designate Fire as Hell and Water as Heaven. They’re called Fire AND Water. Together they constitute a place we Catholics call Purgatory. If you were somewhere between Evil Incarnate (and had an express ticket to Hell) and Candidate for Canonization (and had an express ticket to Heaven) – in other words, us everyday people – your first stop was going to be Purgatory. Purgatory is the place to purge your sins, your imperfections, or just plain get rid of your feelings of guilt. It’s the place to do the time for doing the crime, to write 100 times on the blackboard “I must not throw spit balls in class” until you get it right. It’s a second chance to avoid the fire and brimstone and gain admittance to the Pearly Gates. Well, you get the idea.
I’m not Catholic, so I don’t know much of anything about purgatory. But Water and Fire seem to be Heaven and Hell, a permanent treatment. The only evidence otherwise is [i]K-Town[/i] (“My punishment is over.”). I would think the only thing analogous to purgatory in the [i]Lexx[/i] cosmologies would be the limboes where souls wait while others occupy the planet. There would be two, one for Water and one for Fire.
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Hogtown is where petty bureaucrats who are too much in love with procedures and paperwork, to the extent they will let the bad go unpunished and the good suffer needless, go to endlessly shuffle paperwork until they wake up and realize they’re drowning in the stuff.
Hogtown doesn’t seem to me to fit in with Fire being a punishment. It’s populated by a lot of intellectuals who want to classify and categorize the planet Fire. I don’t see how they’re bad, or how the place is a punishment. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img]
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Over on Water, Gametown is where people who can’t play well with others have to keep playing the game over and over again until they realize the way to win is to work together as a team.
I don’t think Gametown was supposed to be any sort of punishment or learning experience. That’s some people’s idea of Heaven. For me, that would be closer to Hell, though. Perpetual team sports? [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] At least in junior high it only [i]seemed[/i] like forever.
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Garden is where nuns who’ve had “naughty thoughts” go.
Now, how can Garden City be any kind of punishment? There’s nothing wrong with it (besides that nasty weed Lyekka [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img] ). The Garden would be like the ultimate reward. I know I’d rather be there than any other place in [i]Lexx[/i]’s two universes. Everything’s just perfect and beautiful and happy. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Stan is certainly less-than-perfect, but I don’t think he’s done anything to deserve THAT harsh a punishment.
I know. He never did anything [i]real[/i] bad in his life. Prince is just a jerk. [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
OK I got. Since you posted -9 years ago or 9 years in the future, gimmie a break I’m saving my last brain cell for my statics final, the board thinks you’ve already posted (from your current ip) recently. Because the time since your ip’s last post was <=250 seconds. Granted it negative seconds, but the programmer jsut assumed time travel won't happen. To post under from an ip, that posted in 2010, delete all your post from 2010. We tried to correct this by deleting all the 2010 posts and repsoting them, under our name though, but obviously a few were missed. I'd fix it here, but can only mess with the SG1 forum. Sorry and happy hunting for all your posts.BTW DT, "My god, Its full of stars" is this year. I think Novemebr of this year. 2010 is "All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there"
Thanks for the tip. After over 80 hours I am able to post again, and I have a [i]Lexx[/i] dream and a psychological profile and a top ten list waiting to be posted, lucky you. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
The reason that was in red was so it wouldn’t be overlooked. I was desperate and behaving erratically. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
That’s right, Dave said “My God! It’s full of stars…” at the end of [i]2001: A Space Odyssey[/i], and was in the reprise for [i]2010: The Year We Made Contact[/i]. Actually, I think the beginning of [i]2001[/i] with Dr. Floyd (was that the name?) was way back in 1999.
Here’s the post I had to delete-
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Originally posted by DalekTek790:
The first two seasons of [i]Lexx[/i] were mainly serious sci-fi. Sure there was some comic relief, and quite a bit of subtle satire, but it was no less serious then, say, [i]Doctor Who[/i]. The third season had a few good episodes but most were either too dark or too silly. Now with season four it looks like they’ve gone off the deep end. Humor permeates it, and a lot of it is pretty crude ([i]Stan Down[/i], ’nuff said). The show’s serious edge is getting dull.[i]Xevivor[/i] was okay, but I was expecting more from Jeffrey Hirschfield. It was a good premise ([i]Lafftrak[/i]-esque commentary on where entertainment is going) but it wasn’t played out as well as it could have been.
[ 14-12-2001: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Welp, the board did it to us again!This time (according to my ISP), the server needed to be re-booted. For some strange reason (that wasn’t explained) it appeared to magic up the year 2010 in the date stamp instead of 2001. This caused awful problems for people as when the tried to view messages all had gone!
This was because most people who use the board have the option of viewing all messages within a certain timeframe (ie 2 days) turned on. And since the board had suddenly moved forwards ten years, it appeared that there were no messages. The messages were actually all there, as you may have seen by selecting the ‘view all messages’ option.
The date is back to normal again now and we shouldn’t have any more problems.
I have had to delete a couple of corrupt messages and I’ve tried to fix a few others.
Thanks for your patience. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Dose this have anything to do with the fact that the SadBoard was about exactly one year old when the problem started? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img] If I remember correctly, the new forums were put up on December 11, 2000. Anyway, I was going to wish the new SadBoard a happy first birthday, but I couldn’t post. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by dgrequeen:
Invite all the Lexxians and have a big party.
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Originally posted by Doffy:
Party with the Lexxians, definitely.
Lexxian party, eh? You’ll be able to recognize me, I’ll be the one in the corner reading. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Season 4 isn’t that great but it’s a lot better than season 3. The first two seasons were serious, 3 sort of, but now season 4 is often silly and campy. [i]Lexx[/i] is losing the sober dignity it once possessed.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
But it has to be recieved on a lunar eclipse of Nebari’s 2nd moon. If it’s not recieved on that day, your money will be taken but you will not be contacted further. Now the next part is tricky, so stay with me. “They” contact you via carrier pidgeon on the 2nd tuesday of the month, You have to go to Ruhma on the 4th Wednesday of the following month. Once there you need to get on your knees, and well you get the idea, right? If not I’ll give you a hint, it requires a chicken and a rabbi.
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And the moral of the story is don’t smoke crack, kids. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
which ‘The Adventures of Baron von Münchhausen’ do you mean, not the Pythonesque one surly! I hope you mean the German version (1920’s) or something. Now THAT was very cool and absolutely cult! (couldn’t get into the modern cersion (not enough naked women I suppose [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] )
I was talking about the one from like the eighties with John Neville. It wasn’t a real hit, but some people are really into it.
I saw the pilot for the new live-action [i]Tick[/i] show. I found it pretty funny.
I used to watch the old animated series way back when. I recall a multitude of humerous super heroes and villains. I remember die Fledermaus, Sewer Urchin, Crusading Chameleon, Thrakorzog, the Breadmaster, the Humsn Carpet, and some gun-toting maniac who cracked me up. I remember the original show as being really funny, but maybe that’s because I was younger then.
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It’s over, kids. Read a book!quote:
Originally posted by Hypatia:
Is ‘cheapifies’ a word, DaleckTek?
It is now. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
Put your money where your mouth is and do it.
I will, too, some day. After I’ve revolutionized the science fiction genre. What does it take to write childrens’ science-fantasy? All I’d have to do is create a main character children can relate to, present some kind of escapist fantasy world, dumb down the science, lay off the complex intellectual/philosophical concepts, cool it with the explicit descriptions of physical violence and eliminate anything sexual. That can’t be too hard. At the risk of sounding immodest, I’m quite a good writer.
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Originally posted by SadGeezer:
Ah yes, but would it be as popular. It’s one of the most popular series of childrens books in the world!
Now, I don’t know about that. I’m not sure I really know how to make something popular, especially with younger readers. My style is a little…unconventional. But hey, I remember being 10. I know what appealed to me at that age. I can just use that knowledge to get a good idea of my target audience. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Uberfrosch:
Harry Potter isn’t bad–it’s mediocre. That is, it’s a hell of a lot better than the last big thing in children’s publishing, Goosebumps, but it’s still a far cry from the best children’s fantasy being put out there by the likes of Jane Yolen, Robin McKinley, or Phillip Pullman.
I agree with you, there. [i]Harry Potter[/i] is a few notches above [i]Goosebumps[/i]. I remember reading a couple of those books back in grade school, they were really lame. [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
[ 08-12-2001: Message edited by: DalekTek790 ]
Fun topic, Hypatia. I think we can all think of something we’d love to do with a giant interstellar bug with planet-destroying capabilities, even if it isn’t constructive or logical [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
I do have to wonder: what’s with the shower fixation? Are you a compulsive clean freak? Is there something about the Lexx’s showers that you find especially appealing? Do I want to know? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by Slopmaster:
This forum is mostly harmless? Not from what I have seen. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
I don’t know, compared to the board at Scifi.com it’s pretty tame. [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]
The problem with Fire and Water is that Prince is a jerk. Look what he did to poor Stan! Stanley Tweedle was a well-meaning benevolent person who has just shown poor judgment in a few situations. Prince sent him to Fire because he was mad that Stan didn’t blow up Water like he wanted him to. And I’m sure something similar happened to Schlemmi. Schlemmi was evil, but Prince sent him to Water just to shake things up a little in Gametown. Prince breaks the rules and does things just to cause chaos.
It’s not about there being some fundamental flaw in the Universe, it’s about Prince being a jackass.
[i]Harry Potter[/i] sucks. It’s unimaginative crap, a higgelty-piggelty collection of elements from mythology and folklore mutilated for the purpose of commercial appeal that just cheapifies the mythic image and has no value but to make those responsible filthy rich. [i]I[/i] could write better childrens’ fantasy.
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Originally posted by Headgehog:
How does he imply he’s an insect?!
He’s talking to Fifi on Fire, after their moth has crashed but before they’re picked up by our philanthropic heroes. I don’t remember his exact words, but he says something like he has died before, only his mind lived on, that he’s always finding new bodies and migrating when the die, and that when this body dies he won’t die with it, he’ll live on in his own way. I interpreted this as meaning Duke was an Insect essence, passing from one human host to another. That was the only way to make sense of it from what I knew about the [i]Lexx[/i] universe at the time. But it was later revealed that Duke, like Prince is a metaphysical being as opposed to an Insect or conventional essence. Still, it seems like the writer deliberately tailored Duke’s speech to trick fans into temporarily thinking that Fire was being run by Insects.
The best effect would be in [i]I Worship His Shadow[/i] where Kai fires his brace at His Divine Shadow. There’s an effect that looks almost like eyes, then the body falls over. The skull cap falls off, and we see the Insect essence coiled up inside. It looks really eerie. Then it unravels and flies over to Kai. If you look closely at the sequence where the essence is swirling around Kai, you can see translucent jointed insect legs trying to strangle him. A remarkable effect.
The worst effect would be in [i]Battle[/i], the, er, battle. In several shots the lighting on the balloons is perceptively different from the lighting on the characters. Sometimes the matte lines were even visible!
